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Post by The Elder King on Jul 29, 2021 4:20:26 GMT
I think there are good chances we might get a canonized ending for ME3 in NME, but that really seems fake to me.
Putting aside the canon issue, though, I can image the reaction of the fandom if they'll introduce race options in ME by adding only turians.
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Post by Phantom on Jul 29, 2021 4:28:10 GMT
Found an article and it said about a leak for the nme. Take this with a grain of salt: On Reddit, a user with the nickname vakarianandtheshep shared a plot that is planned for Mass Effect: Next. There are no facts that could confirm or deny the words of this user, so this information should be treated with a grain of salt. Anyway, food for thought. Spoilers possible! So: The game will take place in about 600 years, in parallel with Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Shepard will not be in it, just a mention.
The protagonist can be both human and turian.
With Mass Effect: Legendary Edition, you can import saves into a new ME.
In Mass Effect 5, the canon ending will be “red”.
Whichever ending you choose in Mass Effect: Legendary Edition in Mass Effect 5, it will change to red.
If in Mass Effect 3 Shepard survives with the red ending (with max readiness points), then in the new game it will be possible to find notes about his life after the trilogy finale.
In the new ME, Wrex, Grunt, Liara may appear (was in the trailer).
The plot is based on the aftermath of the war with the reapers, namely, problems with repeaters, which have not properly restored their working capacity for 600 years.
In order to solve the problem with the repeaters, Liara has been looking for the body of the reaper – the Harbinger for a long time in order to restore the repeaters with the help of his technologies.
After the war with the Reapers, the Harbinger’s body disappeared and for 600 years Liara searched for him. Half of the game will be about finding the Harbinger’s body.
After finding the Harbinger’s body, the repeaters are restored and thanks to the use of Harbinger technologies, we will be able to quickly travel to Andromeda. (The hint was in the teaser)There's also this article that adds a little bit of more information: www.google.com/amp/s/games.24tv.ua/ru/seti-pojavilsja-vozmozhnyj-sjuzhet-prodolzhenija-poslednie-novosti_n1653982/ampWell This is just me, We as a forum can do better than that with any type of Player Characters we can muster including Ryder Twins, any of my Player Characters ideas, Shepard or anyone else. Also I want a proper ME:A Prequel that set up ME:A 2 and beyond
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Post by smilesja on Jul 29, 2021 5:29:03 GMT
I don't think I like the idea of ME5's plot being a glorified fetch quest and why can't we play other races like a Volus?!
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jul 29, 2021 10:04:53 GMT
Found an article and it said about a leak for the nme. Take this with a grain of salt: On Reddit, a user with the nickname vakarianandtheshep shared a plot that is planned for Mass Effect: Next. There are no facts that could confirm or deny the words of this user, so this information should be treated with a grain of salt. Anyway, food for thought. Spoilers possible! So: The game will take place in about 600 years, in parallel with Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Shepard will not be in it, just a mention.
The protagonist can be both human and turian.
With Mass Effect: Legendary Edition, you can import saves into a new ME.
In Mass Effect 5, the canon ending will be “red”.
Whichever ending you choose in Mass Effect: Legendary Edition in Mass Effect 5, it will change to red.
If in Mass Effect 3 Shepard survives with the red ending (with max readiness points), then in the new game it will be possible to find notes about his life after the trilogy finale.
In the new ME, Wrex, Grunt, Liara may appear (was in the trailer).
The plot is based on the aftermath of the war with the reapers, namely, problems with repeaters, which have not properly restored their working capacity for 600 years.
In order to solve the problem with the repeaters, Liara has been looking for the body of the reaper – the Harbinger for a long time in order to restore the repeaters with the help of his technologies.
After the war with the Reapers, the Harbinger’s body disappeared and for 600 years Liara searched for him. Half of the game will be about finding the Harbinger’s body.
After finding the Harbinger’s body, the repeaters are restored and thanks to the use of Harbinger technologies, we will be able to quickly travel to Andromeda. (The hint was in the teaser)There's also this article that adds a little bit of more information: www.google.com/amp/s/games.24tv.ua/ru/seti-pojavilsja-vozmozhnyj-sjuzhet-prodolzhenija-poslednie-novosti_n1653982/ampNot enough Salos.
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Post by Iakus on Jul 29, 2021 13:31:16 GMT
Found an article and it said about a leak for the nme. Take this with a grain of salt: On Reddit, a user with the nickname vakarianandtheshep shared a plot that is planned for Mass Effect: Next. There are no facts that could confirm or deny the words of this user, so this information should be treated with a grain of salt. Anyway, food for thought. Spoilers possible! So: The game will take place in about 600 years, in parallel with Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Shepard will not be in it, just a mention.
The protagonist can be both human and turian.
With Mass Effect: Legendary Edition, you can import saves into a new ME.
In Mass Effect 5, the canon ending will be “red”.
Whichever ending you choose in Mass Effect: Legendary Edition in Mass Effect 5, it will change to red.
If in Mass Effect 3 Shepard survives with the red ending (with max readiness points), then in the new game it will be possible to find notes about his life after the trilogy finale.
In the new ME, Wrex, Grunt, Liara may appear (was in the trailer).
The plot is based on the aftermath of the war with the reapers, namely, problems with repeaters, which have not properly restored their working capacity for 600 years.
In order to solve the problem with the repeaters, Liara has been looking for the body of the reaper – the Harbinger for a long time in order to restore the repeaters with the help of his technologies.
After the war with the Reapers, the Harbinger’s body disappeared and for 600 years Liara searched for him. Half of the game will be about finding the Harbinger’s body.
After finding the Harbinger’s body, the repeaters are restored and thanks to the use of Harbinger technologies, we will be able to quickly travel to Andromeda. (The hint was in the teaser)There's also this article that adds a little bit of more information: www.google.com/amp/s/games.24tv.ua/ru/seti-pojavilsja-vozmozhnyj-sjuzhet-prodolzhenija-poslednie-novosti_n1653982/ampI call BS. A few of those look plausible, but as noted, asari would be way easier to implement than turian for an alien playable race. Also as noted "repeaters" (relays, I'm guessing), while finding a way to repair them might be an interesting story, had nothing to do with getting to Andromeda. In addition, there is no way in hell they are going to simultaneously allow save imports AND default the ending to red (or default to any ending for that matter) I can se them doing one or the other, but not both.
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Post by mtheillusive on Jul 29, 2021 21:03:06 GMT
Found an article and it said about a leak for the nme. Take this with a grain of salt: On Reddit, a user with the nickname vakarianandtheshep shared a plot that is planned for Mass Effect: Next. There are no facts that could confirm or deny the words of this user, so this information should be treated with a grain of salt. Anyway, food for thought. Spoilers possible! So: The game will take place in about 600 years, in parallel with Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Shepard will not be in it, just a mention.
The protagonist can be both human and turian.
With Mass Effect: Legendary Edition, you can import saves into a new ME.
In Mass Effect 5, the canon ending will be “red”.
Whichever ending you choose in Mass Effect: Legendary Edition in Mass Effect 5, it will change to red.
If in Mass Effect 3 Shepard survives with the red ending (with max readiness points), then in the new game it will be possible to find notes about his life after the trilogy finale.
In the new ME, Wrex, Grunt, Liara may appear (was in the trailer).
The plot is based on the aftermath of the war with the reapers, namely, problems with repeaters, which have not properly restored their working capacity for 600 years.
In order to solve the problem with the repeaters, Liara has been looking for the body of the reaper – the Harbinger for a long time in order to restore the repeaters with the help of his technologies.
After the war with the Reapers, the Harbinger’s body disappeared and for 600 years Liara searched for him. Half of the game will be about finding the Harbinger’s body.
After finding the Harbinger’s body, the repeaters are restored and thanks to the use of Harbinger technologies, we will be able to quickly travel to Andromeda. (The hint was in the teaser)There's also this article that adds a little bit of more information: www.google.com/amp/s/games.24tv.ua/ru/seti-pojavilsja-vozmozhnyj-sjuzhet-prodolzhenija-poslednie-novosti_n1653982/ampI'm assuming the "repeaters" are the relays? And also...I'm calling BULL. Why? Simple. Thats not a video game plot. Stop the evil spectre and his army of geth from finding the conduit...THAT is a plot made for a game Stop some unknown alien race from abducting human colonies....THAT is a plot made for a game Stop the Reapers...THAT is a plot made for a game Find a new home for humanity and see them through unknown dangers...THAT is a plot made for a game In each of those, action, shooty shooty bang bang, etc., are all inevitable. Those plots are agreeable with gameplay Look for an old machine to help fix Mass Relay Travel? Potentially interesting sci fi plot...but it does NOT scream gameplay
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 30, 2021 15:29:47 GMT
Thus the Reapers relay network likely covers a very small portion of the Milky Way. Maybe. This is something I actually thought would have made sense for MEA. Rather than send them to another galaxy, have them explore the unexplored portions of the MW. I don't think there are fewer relays so much as there are relays that are shut down or hidden. For example, we know the rachni were behind a relay that was so full of radiation on the other side as to be unusable. Then there was the Mu Relay that had been lost. No one even knew the Citadel was a relay until Sovereign came along. No was was able to freely pass through the Omega-4 relay and, I'm guessing, the Alpha Relay. The Charon Relay had been encased in ice until humanity recovered it. Relay 314 was dormant until humans reactivated it. 2175 Aeia relay was forbidden. Supposedly that was one of many forbidden relays. I mostly looked these up on the Mass Effect wiki. These are a handful of relays I found. How many more are out there, discovered, forbidden or whatever? The Council is likely more or less powerless right now. I assume the other side of relays that were inactive were untouched by RGB. Personally, I think it's worth exploring. And, sure, there's a lot of uncharted galaxy, but it would be exceedingly difficult to get to them - unless, maybe, are ark were used to travel the distance. It wouldn't need 600 years but more time than the average lifespan of known races. The plot is based on the aftermath of the war with the reapers, namely, problems with repeaters, which have not properly restored their working capacity for 600 years. What are repeaters?
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Post by themikefest on Jul 30, 2021 15:42:28 GMT
I mostly looked these up on the Mass Effect wiki. These are a handful of relays I found. How many more are out there, discovered, forbidden or whatever? The Council is likely more or less powerless right now. I assume the other side of relays that were inactive were untouched by RGB. Personally, I think it's worth exploring. And, sure, there's a lot of uncharted galaxy, but it would be exceedingly difficult to get to them - unless, maybe, are ark were used to travel the distance. It wouldn't need 600 years but more time than the average lifespan of known races. I agree. I believe any inactive relay is not damaged by the red wave. The wave only effected the area's reapers were in. There's likely a very large portion of the galaxy that went wave free. I can see in ME4 a few of those relays are turned on to explore those areas for resources to help with the rebuilding. Encounter a new species.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 30, 2021 17:34:00 GMT
I mostly looked these up on the Mass Effect wiki. These are a handful of relays I found. How many more are out there, discovered, forbidden or whatever? The Council is likely more or less powerless right now. I assume the other side of relays that were inactive were untouched by RGB. Personally, I think it's worth exploring. And, sure, there's a lot of uncharted galaxy, but it would be exceedingly difficult to get to them - unless, maybe, are ark were used to travel the distance. It wouldn't need 600 years but more time than the average lifespan of known races. I agree. I believe any inactive relay is not damaged by the red wave. The wave only effected the area's reapers were in. There's likely a very large portion of the galaxy that went wave free. I can see in ME4 a few of those relays are turned on to explore those areas for resources to help with the rebuilding. Encounter a new species. We literally see the waves cover the entire galaxy in the cutscene. There are no places that went wave free.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 30, 2021 17:41:16 GMT
I agree. I believe any inactive relay is not damaged by the red wave. The wave only effected the area's reapers were in. There's likely a very large portion of the galaxy that went wave free. I can see in ME4 a few of those relays are turned on to explore those areas for resources to help with the rebuilding. Encounter a new species. We literally see the waves cover the entire galaxy in the cutscene. There are no places that went wave free. Seeing and doing are two different things. And if the wave does hit everything, then how did that Alliance soldier survive in the scorched earth ending? Was he underground? If so, that likely means a reaper or more might not be destroyed as well as some of the uglies. The other thing is did the red wave reach darkspace where there's another relay that is used by the reapers?
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Post by Iakus on Jul 30, 2021 19:17:02 GMT
I agree. I believe any inactive relay is not damaged by the red wave. The wave only effected the area's reapers were in. There's likely a very large portion of the galaxy that went wave free. I can see in ME4 a few of those relays are turned on to explore those areas for resources to help with the rebuilding. Encounter a new species. We literally see the waves cover the entire galaxy in the cutscene. There are no places that went wave free. Which is really weird given that means the waves permeated omnidirectionally at FTL speeds
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Jul 30, 2021 20:01:01 GMT
The plot is based on the aftermath of the war with the reapers, namely, problems with repeaters, which have not properly restored their working capacity for 600 years. What are repeaters? Probably the relays.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Jul 31, 2021 12:24:12 GMT
I dont believe this guy knows, just speculates as everyone I think... he meant MEA? Its very much like "what we wanted to do in ME1 but could not" what I heard before.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 31, 2021 13:37:16 GMT
I don't know if he implies he knows, but I can tell you, no, he doesn't know what he's talking about. He has convinced himself about some things and I get that it makes sense to him, but that's about it.
If anyone is interested in my Will Continue BTS fanfiction can click on the spoiler
Direct Andromeda sequel was discusses early on as a potential game, but opted out. Deemed too difficult to generate interest with a larger gaming audience. One of the comments was along the lines of "it'd be easier to sell a sequel to Ghostbusters (2016)". Don't know if it was from dev team, someone who thought Montreal did a really poor job, or some Marketing/Executive that just piped in at some point.
Internally are very apprehensive and worried about new characters, as they are easily rejected, as proven by most of Bioware's releases over the past decade. They are mainly banking on Liara's appearance to mitigate that effect. Still no word about other characters being involved. Doesn't mean they aren't, just haven't received word. If they are, they won't be in any big capacity, making their cameo appearances entirely pointless.
Bridging the two galaxies may happen, will be either of greater or lesser in importance, won't be the main focus of the game. It's not a very engaging plot idea, won't lead the sales of the title. That's exclusively Liara's job.
Sales expectations are up to a million on launch week, with 2.5 million copies sold-in over year. Budget estimate at $40 million CAD. This is clearly a double A title, not a triple A one. Will still carry a $70 price tag. Might or might not get DLC. Depends on market performance. Might get better budget, if DA4 performs well and earns some trust in the studio, but Gary isn't in favour of making a bigger game, with a bigger budget. Prefers it kept simple and safe.
Feels like a very throwaway title, at this point. Might "feel" different, as development moves forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 13:42:05 GMT
I agree. I believe any inactive relay is not damaged by the red wave. The wave only effected the area's reapers were in. There's likely a very large portion of the galaxy that went wave free. I can see in ME4 a few of those relays are turned on to explore those areas for resources to help with the rebuilding. Encounter a new species. We literally see the waves cover the entire galaxy in the cutscene. There are no places that went wave free. The wave hits what it is designed to hit - living/functioning synthetics and the things they made. If it isn't active, I don't see why the red wave would find it. The red "wave" was not a wave of rampant destruction. It was targeted. Edit: SirSourpuss, $40m budget? That seems incredibly low, like not sure I can get behind that low.
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jul 31, 2021 13:44:28 GMT
So I just realized something - if we ever are allowed to choose race Krogan, Asari or Salarian are very unlikely - the reason for this beiing that they live either exceedingly long or exceedingly short. It would be a nightmare to explain why the protag isn't around if you want to do a time jump in the future (unless you're planning a really long one. It would be much easier to keep it to humans, Turians, Quarians or Drell as they have similar life spans.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 31, 2021 13:51:20 GMT
We literally see the waves cover the entire galaxy in the cutscene. There are no places that went wave free. The wave hits what it is designed to hit - living/functioning synthetics and the things they made. If it isn't active, I don't see why the red wave would find it. The red "wave" was not a wave of rampant destruction. It was targeted. Edit: SirSourpuss , $40m budget? That seems incredibly low, like not sure I can get behind that low. A game needs to make 3x its budget to be considered a success, in revenue. $40 million CAD is on the higher end of what you can get with 1 million copies sold at $70 a pop. You're selling to barely break even. It's safe budget range. And Gary likes that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 14:13:52 GMT
The wave hits what it is designed to hit - living/functioning synthetics and the things they made. If it isn't active, I don't see why the red wave would find it. The red "wave" was not a wave of rampant destruction. It was targeted. Edit: SirSourpuss , $40m budget? That seems incredibly low, like not sure I can get behind that low. A game needs to make 3x its budget to be considered a success, in revenue. $40 million CAD is on the higher end of what you can get with 1 million copies sold at $70 a pop. You're selling to barely break even. It's safe budget range. And Gary likes that. The economics make sense, and I am glad for Gary lol. A title like Mass Effect, in the shambles BioWare is in these days... If they get AAA value out of what is, as you said, really a AA budget, then I am thrilled for Gary and myself. The issue there is BioWare has not indicated to me in any meaningful way that they have a management team that can produce a AAA title on a AA budget - it will either release broken as hell (MEA), missing the majority of promised features (Anthem), or developers will kill themselves from the crunch and we will get an amazing game people literally died for to give us. I guess it comes down to faith from EA. Either they have it in BW or they don't, but letting them make their flagship IP on the cheap doesn't seem like a giant vote of confidence.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 31, 2021 14:24:29 GMT
A game needs to make 3x its budget to be considered a success, in revenue. $40 million CAD is on the higher end of what you can get with 1 million copies sold at $70 a pop. You're selling to barely break even. It's safe budget range. And Gary likes that. The economics make sense, and I am glad for Gary lol. A title like Mass Effect, in the shambles BioWare is in these days... If they get AAA value out of what is, as you said, really a AA budget, then I am thrilled for Gary and myself. The issue there is BioWare has not indicated to me in any meaningful way that they have a management team that can produce a AAA title on a AA budget - it will either release broken as hell (MEA), missing the majority of promised features (Anthem), or developers will kill themselves from the crunch and we will get an amazing game people literally died for to give us. I guess it comes down to faith from EA. Either they have it in BW or they don't, but letting them make their flagship IP on the cheap doesn't seem like a giant vote of confidence. They can't produce a AAA game even with AAA budget. Andromeda did not mate 3x its money. Anthem did not make 3x its money. Both games were either tied for for budget and net revenue or a close loss. EA simply doesn't want that, anymore and aren't willing to invest that much money on a loss, especially when Bioware's main goal is to just fix their negative image, if possible. Even this game is being made with a loss in mind. If DA4 performs well and above expectations, this will give Will Continue a bigger budget as well as a longer development period, as it is currently, with a projected release of DA4 in 2023, aiming for a Will Continue release in 2025 with a higher sales projection, as well.. And Bioware really wants that 2023 release for DA4. They brutally want that 2023 release for DA4, whatever that may entail.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 31, 2021 14:26:04 GMT
So I just realized something - if we ever are allowed to choose race Krogan, Asari or Salarian are very unlikely - the reason for this beiing that they live either exceedingly long or exceedingly short. It would be a nightmare to explain why the protag isn't around if you want to do a time jump in the future (unless you're planning a really long one. It would be much easier to keep it to humans, Turians, Quarians or Drell as they have similar life spans. Salarians live on average 40 years.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2021 14:35:29 GMT
Nothing is preventing BioWare from making a AAA game, budget included.
TW3 dev budget in USD was 15m. Nobody would argue that game isn't a AAA experience, even if they hate the game. It hits the criteria.
A "AAA" game isn't just about budget, as you well know. It is AAA because the fans say it is, and it looks like one.
So, I think we both hope your spoilered post is wrong. I think we both expect that you're going to be right. What a world.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Jul 31, 2021 14:58:04 GMT
Nothing is preventing BioWare from making a AAA game, budget included. TW3 dev budget in USD was 15m. Nobody would argue that game isn't a AAA experience, even if they hate the game. It hits the criteria. A "AAA" game isn't just about budget, as you well know. It is AAA because the fans say it is, and it looks like one. So, I think we both hope your spoilered post is wrong. I think we both expect that you're going to be right. What a world. I understand what you mean. The thing is that budget ranges grow and games grow in quality. We are likely to be seeing quadruple A games this gen and if the average triple A game cost $100 million per game, for EA, to produce and Bioware did not make a single competent one, in that range, they are going to need to prove they can be trusted with that money first. They did it just fine with the AA games before that, like ME1 and ME2 and ... those two, I guess and they were very well received, some of the best games of all time. Bioware never reached that popularity again. So if they can make a good game, that's all they need. Budget is irrelevant to the quality of the finished product. But budget is relevant to the content of the product.
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Post by dmc1001 on Jul 31, 2021 17:52:00 GMT
Nothing is preventing BioWare from making a AAA game, budget included. TW3 dev budget in USD was 15m. Nobody would argue that game isn't a AAA experience, even if they hate the game. It hits the criteria. A "AAA" game isn't just about budget, as you well know. It is AAA because the fans say it is, and it looks like one. So, I think we both hope your spoilered post is wrong. I think we both expect that you're going to be right. What a world. Though I agree, there might be other factors. Better, experienced devs are what's needed. They might command higher salaries. I have no idea how that all works but that's not unreasonable. Could also explain why we see some of the better devs leave; EA isn't making it worthwhile to stay for what they're getting paid. They can make more money elsewhere. There's also fan expectations about what to expect with graphics and writing. Fans may demand more than when ME and ME2 were created. Finally, a clear vision needs to be in place. Remember how MEA was planning on procedurally created worlds but then changed their mind, setting them way back? Yeah, something was going on behind the scenes and the game was visually impacted. By the time it was fixed, which was pretty quickly, the damage was done. Honestly, I don't think anyone would be wise to preorder these days. Wait to actually get a finished problem - which, of course, is a fan-created issue. We want more, faster, and this is the result. Stepping back to the clear vision, I can point to the more recent Star Wars trilogy. JJ Abrams and Rian Johnson were not on the same page and Lucas/Disney did nothing to make sure they were. I get that Johnson wanted to move TLJ away from being ESB Mark 2 but it was terrible as a middle movie. My point isn't the quality of the film. I think it was fine on its own but not as the middle part of the trilogy. There was no vision and so we got Movie 1, Movie 2 that derails the plot and Movie 3 that tries to "fix" Movie 2 and pick up elements from Movie 1 to get a subpar ending. IMO, DA4 is promising. Unlike what came before, we're getting a continuation of a major plot from the end of DAI. MENext, on the other hand, has Liara as the hook. No, thanks. Of course, I doubt the plot is even remotely fleshed out but I think a story needs to exist before telling us who is in it.
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