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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 31, 2024 10:51:24 GMT
Confirms what I've always thought. Andromeda had far more content than any individual game in the trilogy, but ultimately couldn't capture the imagination. A sequel to Andromeda wouldn't help because we now know more does not equal better.
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Post by ubralshade on Aug 2, 2024 23:31:31 GMT
After a few thousand hours after 10 years of playing Mass Effect and 100% the trilogy, as well as some of the additional canon content, I've reached the conclusion that Shepard will be returning for 3 primary reasons;
Also a TL;DR - Shepard is going to be a possible playable main character in ME:5, because there always exists the ability to import a save from ME:3 Legendary Edition. I feel like this would give us all the best of both worlds, where we get to play as a different main character, and the ability to have a closure to the beloved Commander Shepard in a way that doesn't feel extremely rushed or copped out. Many of us spent somewhere around 100 hrs with each playthrough just to have a relatively cheap end to it. Having both a new character that lives in a galaxy shaped by Shepard's role in the trilogy, as well as the ability to pick up where Shepard left off, play the main plot that new character would play but in Shepard's perspective and find that closure with your LI and your crew that you've become attached to after 100+ hours would feel like the best approach possible to it.
1) Shepard's story isn't finished yet. The "true" ending, or Red (Shep Lives), he/she is still alive and so are the crew of the Normandy. In the teaser trailer video, Liara is seen holding N7 Onyx gear. Who else other than Shepard have we seen in the N7 corps, at least to the extent that Liara would recognize and look like she was feeling sorrow? Much less to be wearing N7 Onyx equipment, so that rules out Anderson and Liara has a lot more emotional attachment to Shepard than James. This further compounds as the Mass Relays were mostly destroyed in the Milky Way and with the aforementioned ending, Shepard is still trapped on the Citadel, barely alive. The planet also looks like the one that the Normandy SR1 crashed on that you can visit in ME:2. It is possible that the Normandy crew fled to the Terminus systems to try to escape the energy blast but were found mostly disabled on that lush planet and have been trying to salvage tech to repair the Normandy to allow them to recover Shepard. It would make sense for the crew to try to salvage the tech from the original Normandy to get them back in space for their Commander, as the SR2 was designed based off of the original Normandy's ship construction diagrams that Cerberus swiped from the Alliance.
Also, side note, I take Liara's more mature appearance with a grain of salt. Asari have very... strange aging patterns. Asari age both through Solar Years as most organics do, and through their individual "experience", so it's like how stress ages people, but for Asari it's actually a factor just as much as their years. It wouldn't surprise me that something as traumatic as fighting the prophesized end of all intelligent life in the galaxy, compounded by the stress of seeing those you fight with die en masse would probably have a lot of influence on Liara. Asari can theoretically live for about 1,000 years, but that's under ideal conditions. There was next to nothing ideal about fighting Reapers and seeing even your homeworld get obliterated. It is also a factor that the new engine just renders models and graphics in much better detail, and as it was a teaser trailer, it is possible the design on Liara was not the final one that gets to be in-game.
2) There is still a threat as mentioned by the Leviathans in ME:3 and SLIGHTLY hinted by The Intelligence. The old organic civilizations created synthetics that were not destroyed. The Reapers only harvested the organic species that created those synthetics. As far as I know, the Red ending only destroyed synthetics in the Milky Way, it did not extend outside that area, between galaxies. With Andromeda being "canon", it also raises the infinite possibilities that in other galaxies, as space is quite literally Infinite, there could be more threats to our crew and to the Milky Way that just haven't bothered because the Reapers prevented them from going there through Dark Space, but since the Milky Way is still rebuilding, no matter what ending you decided in ME:3, they now have their chance.
3) On a business standpoint, Andromeda was not that good. Ryder was exceptionally immature and lacking the personality that many fans of the series have come to enjoy about having Shepard, and the overall plot to it was lackluster. Not to say that we won't get a return of Ryder in Andromeda-- far from it and I do hope we can get a better representation for a new set of eyes on the series, but the Milky Way and it's problems are for Shepard and the Normandy crew. Shepard IS Mass Effect in the Milky Way, and with an ending to ME:3 that leaves us all in a cliffhanger, it wouldn't make sense to completely skip Shepard. If ME:3 gave a proper ending to Shepard and the Normandy crew, including with their possible LI, then having a different Main Character of the main series would make a lot of sense as Shepard's journey would be done.
Of course, I have also planned for the idea that Shepard dies in ME:3 with the other endings. I have a feeling that while ME:5 will probably have a new optional main character available, I think it stands to reason that the galaxy of ME:5 will be based on YOUR ending of ME:3-- in other words, did you Synthesize? Did you control the Reapers? Did you destroy them and sacrifice Shepard? Did Shepard accomplish destroy and survive? I think there is going to be a canon ending to ME:3 should you not import a save to ME:5, but I feel like a lot of the game would be influenced if you did import a ME:3 Legendary Edition save, including the possibility that Shepard will be the main character if you imported a ME:3 save where he/she survived.
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Post by Little Bengel on Aug 3, 2024 12:47:22 GMT
After a few thousand hours after 10 years of playing Mass Effect and 100% the trilogy, as well as some of the additional canon content, I've reached the conclusion that Shepard will be returning for 3 primary reasons; Also a TL;DR - Shepard is going to be a possible playable main character in ME:5, because there always exists the ability to import a save from ME:3 Legendary Edition. I feel like this would give us all the best of both worlds, where we get to play as a different main character, and the ability to have a closure to the beloved Commander Shepard in a way that doesn't feel extremely rushed or copped out. Many of us spent somewhere around 100 hrs with each playthrough just to have a relatively cheap end to it. Having both a new character that lives in a galaxy shaped by Shepard's role in the trilogy, as well as the ability to pick up where Shepard left off, play the main plot that new character would play but in Shepard's perspective and find that closure with your LI and your crew that you've become attached to after 100+ hours would feel like the best approach possible to it. 1) Shepard's story isn't finished yet. The "true" ending, or Red (Shep Lives), he/she is still alive and so are the crew of the Normandy. In the teaser trailer video, Liara is seen holding N7 Onyx gear. Who else other than Shepard have we seen in the N7 corps, at least to the extent that Liara would recognize and look like she was feeling sorrow? Much less to be wearing N7 Onyx equipment, so that rules out Anderson and Liara has a lot more emotional attachment to Shepard than James. This further compounds as the Mass Relays were mostly destroyed in the Milky Way and with the aforementioned ending, Shepard is still trapped on the Citadel, barely alive. The planet also looks like the one that the Normandy SR1 crashed on that you can visit in ME:2. It is possible that the Normandy crew fled to the Terminus systems to try to escape the energy blast but were found mostly disabled on that lush planet and have been trying to salvage tech to repair the Normandy to allow them to recover Shepard. It would make sense for the crew to try to salvage the tech from the original Normandy to get them back in space for their Commander, as the SR2 was designed based off of the original Normandy's ship construction diagrams that Cerberus swiped from the Alliance. Also, side note, I take Liara's more mature appearance with a grain of salt. Asari have very... strange aging patterns. Asari age both through Solar Years as most organics do, and through their individual "experience", so it's like how stress ages people, but for Asari it's actually a factor just as much as their years. It wouldn't surprise me that something as traumatic as fighting the prophesized end of all intelligent life in the galaxy, compounded by the stress of seeing those you fight with die en masse would probably have a lot of influence on Liara. Asari can theoretically live for about 1,000 years, but that's under ideal conditions. There was next to nothing ideal about fighting Reapers and seeing even your homeworld get obliterated. It is also a factor that the new engine just renders models and graphics in much better detail, and as it was a teaser trailer, it is possible the design on Liara was not the final one that gets to be in-game. 2) There is still a threat as mentioned by the Leviathans in ME:3 and SLIGHTLY hinted by The Intelligence. The old organic civilizations created synthetics that were not destroyed. The Reapers only harvested the organic species that created those synthetics. As far as I know, the Red ending only destroyed synthetics in the Milky Way, it did not extend outside that area, between galaxies. With Andromeda being "canon", it also raises the infinite possibilities that in other galaxies, as space is quite literally Infinite, there could be more threats to our crew and to the Milky Way that just haven't bothered because the Reapers prevented them from going there through Dark Space, but since the Milky Way is still rebuilding, no matter what ending you decided in ME:3, they now have their chance. 3) On a business standpoint, Andromeda was not that good. Ryder was exceptionally immature and lacking the personality that many fans of the series have come to enjoy about having Shepard, and the overall plot to it was lackluster. Not to say that we won't get a return of Ryder in Andromeda-- far from it and I do hope we can get a better representation for a new set of eyes on the series, but the Milky Way and it's problems are for Shepard and the Normandy crew. Shepard IS Mass Effect in the Milky Way, and with an ending to ME:3 that leaves us all in a cliffhanger, it wouldn't make sense to completely skip Shepard. If ME:3 gave a proper ending to Shepard and the Normandy crew, including with their possible LI, then having a different Main Character of the main series would make a lot of sense as Shepard's journey would be done. Of course, I have also planned for the idea that Shepard dies in ME:3 with the other endings. I have a feeling that while ME:5 will probably have a new optional main character available, I think it stands to reason that the galaxy of ME:5 will be based on YOUR ending of ME:3-- in other words, did you Synthesize? Did you control the Reapers? Did you destroy them and sacrifice Shepard? Did Shepard accomplish destroy and survive? I think there is going to be a canon ending to ME:3 should you not import a save to ME:5, but I feel like a lot of the game would be influenced if you did import a ME:3 Legendary Edition save, including the possibility that Shepard will be the main character if you imported a ME:3 save where he/she survived. I feel like at least two of the reasons here are somewhat invalidated by the fact that last year's N7 Day materials pretty blatantly reference Andromeda.
All that is just leaning towards a time period where Shepard is not very likely to be alive.
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Post by Antibaar on Aug 8, 2024 6:19:58 GMT
I think is Liara,the movement, the helmet also resemblence asari tentacles, maybe she will be the first N7 alien.
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Post by hulluliini on Aug 8, 2024 7:23:28 GMT
Not sure Liara's ME2/3 boobs would fit inside that outfit. Also the movement is not quite as feminine, there is a more masculine feel, kind of like femshep.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 8, 2024 12:31:32 GMT
I think is Liara,the movement, the helmet also resemblence asari tentacles, maybe she will be the first N7 alien. I have to laugh at this. What was seen/heard in the trilogy, she would be the last alien I would even consider to be recommended for the N program.
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Post by ClarkKent on Aug 8, 2024 22:26:34 GMT
I've got to agree with a lot of Mass Effect YouTubers on this one. I think it's a synthetic N7. Perhaps a product of some greasy alliance project.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Aug 23, 2024 1:20:48 GMT
garruscalibrator i used one of the pics you've made with the angara head. I gave you credit ofc
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 13, 2024 1:15:17 GMT
I like these type of videos, tbh. Your and the other girl's, who posted a couple off in-depth visual analysis, digging up lots of interesting details, with really wild and fascinating theories on what the trailers could mean. I really liked the theory that the Protheans might be involved as Jardaans or in other way - such a nice full-circle story development. But both you and that other girl are usually trailing a bit off in your analysis towards the end, I find the conclusions not believable. IE I think you overanalyze stuff in the last part of your video, as to me that whole sequence seems just a chronological listing of events that happened so far in the Mass Effect games: humanity went into space, encountered aliens, almost lost a space war, joined a galactic community, sent off ships to Andromeda, had a Reaper war, people in Andromeda had their first big confrontation and are stranded now - and there is possible new [mysterious] developments in Heleus cluster, maybe a discovery of something, while Milky Way communities are in a bad shape for some reason. That's what I'm getting from the trailers.
Should you be involved with Bioware and are fishing for comments and ideas on what to do with the game - well, prove that you aren't going to do what is being done to Dragon Age(aggressive DEI and feminisation of every aspect of the game design and development), and I'd be willing to share some stuff I've thought up so far. The state of ME universe after ME3 and Andromeda is IMO full of possibilities in terms of story development despite ME3 endings.
So far I'm believing this gentleman might be close to the truth:
I guess it'll be perfect for those who really liked ME:A and will like DA:VG.
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Post by N7Pathfinder on Sept 14, 2024 13:56:05 GMT
heinomk3 "I think you overanalyze stuff in the last part of your video, as to me that whole sequence seems just a chronological listing of events that happened so far in the Mass Effect games: humanity went into space, encountered aliens, almost lost a space war, joined a galactic community, sent off ships to Andromeda, had a Reaper war, people in Andromeda had their first big confrontation and are stranded now - and there is possible new [mysterious] developments in Heleus cluster, maybe a discovery of something, while Milky Way communities are in a bad shape for some reason. That's what I'm getting from the trailers." But that's what I'm saying. It goes chronologically in the beginning and in the end with the many voices is the new stuff. I agree the first teaser shows mw in a dire state. I think we're gonna see technological leaps in the mw, thanks to reaper tech. But maybe not so much in other places. Maybe the remnant will play a part here as well as the jardaan's/protheans. Both of them are very similar. And that concept art we've seen with the buildings might be a mix of both. As for Kala, she's been on yt for almost 3 years. She said she doesn't know anything and just guessing. Could be nda but the game is very much in its early stages, and personally I don't think she's involved. Yet. Bioware always sees people's theories and comments. Gamble even lurks on Reddit and here too. They might take notes but i feel like some are gonna be ok with what we'll see, some others won't.
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Post by ClarkKent on Sept 15, 2024 7:44:52 GMT
I do not believe these YouTube theorists have inside information. I think Bioware have been dropping hints for years about conjoining the galaxies, and these YouTubers are simply picking up on it.
That, and I think it's a reasonable assumption that Bioware would prefer to 1)move galaxies 2)place time forward 600 years 3)link those two galaxies together 4)introduce parallel universes 5) bring in cloned Shepard, or parallel universe Shepard
Than address the endings in a way that the Milky Way galaxy can move on - because suddenly that's a bridge too far.
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Post by Guardian on Sept 16, 2024 3:52:22 GMT
I do not believe these YouTube theorists have inside information. I think Bioware have been dropping hints for years about conjoining the galaxies, and these YouTubers are simply picking up on it. That, and I think it's a reasonable assumption that Bioware would prefer to 1)move galaxies 2)place time forward 600 years 3)link those two galaxies together 4)introduce parallel universes 5) bring in cloned Shepard, or parallel universe Shepard Than address the endings in a way that the Milky Way galaxy can move on - because suddenly that's a bridge too far. Well, of course. Why do the easier and more logical thing, when you can do the extremely convoluted thing, thus angering even more fans you drew in with MELE, as well as anyone hoping for Andromeda 2 in the process?
But...addressing the endings would make too much sense! And we can't have that!
To be fair, they're never going to address it properly, ever since their "artistic vision" wasn't recognized for the "wonderful and meaningful" ending that they thought it was. And I don't know what's more insulting - a cloned Shepard, or a parallel universe Shepard. I do say that Shep and crew deserve a proper send-off, but at this point, I think that ship has sailed, even if they decided to give it to us now of all times.
You're not wrong about the Milky Way galaxy needing to move on, but unfortunately by ignoring and how they handled the endings to ME 3, and jumping right to Andromeda, and now attempting to link the two in the efforts of what appears to be "having their cake and eating it too", I think they've come to realize that it does need to move on. But the chance for the Milky Way galaxy to move is also far too late. With Veilguard right around the corner at the time of this posting, I don't even know if there will be an ME 4. But for now, all we can do is speculate.
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Post by hulluliini on Sept 16, 2024 8:13:04 GMT
I would think that the current BW staff is not that enamored with the artistic vision of Hudson and Walters, it's more about recognizing how you're going to anger a lot of fans whether you canonise one of the endings or retcon them. You can't win. So the way forward is to make story lines from Andromeda as engaging and interesting as possible to draw fans there, away from thinking about the endings so much. They are probably also hoping to gain new fans who will play this game first and enjoy it as it is without baggage.
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 16, 2024 23:47:00 GMT
But that's what I'm saying. It goes chronologically in the beginning and in the end with the many voices is the new stuff. By trailing off I meant that towards the end it seems that you may be interpreting more than there is, although you observation on the chronological placing of possible hints(new ME stuff that could be at the end of the trailer) makes sense. IE you mention "gun marching sounds", but all I hear is the somewhat typical sci-fi suspension-increasing sound effect, similar to what dolby surround systems are made to do in the cinemas at the very start of the movies, which honestly makes me think that all sounds in that trailer are originally from some ME game and are not new at all - especially when you consider that the next ME is said to be in a very very early pre-production where one would not expect new sound records being worked on yet. On the other hand, at around 5:25 mark it sound to me partially like "they move to/through the void(?)zone(?)", so maybe I am wrong in that regard - or that is just the old recording of the Protean AI talking about Reapers in ME1. And the sound directly before that seems quite different from your interpretation, too.
I'm not an english native speaker, though, so I can be definitely totally wrong.
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 17, 2024 0:43:04 GMT
I do not believe these YouTube theorists have inside information. I think Bioware have been dropping hints for years about conjoining the galaxies, and these YouTubers are simply picking up on it. That, and I think it's a reasonable assumption that Bioware would prefer to 1)move galaxies 2)place time forward 600 years 3)link those two galaxies together 4)introduce parallel universes 5) bring in cloned Shepard, or parallel universe Shepard Than address the endings in a way that the Milky Way galaxy can move on - because suddenly that's a bridge too far. Tbh, I don't see anything wrong with points 1-3, other than the execution that happened so far and that might yet follow.
Moving galaxies wasn't really a bad idea in leu of the ending, it would also absolutely fit if it was done by some sort of a refugee ship on the run from the Reapers, that got hit by a blast from the relay explosions during gate transit and was catapulted to Andromeda through some exotic und unexplainable blast-related phenomenon. But they did it their way and left a gaping hole in the extinction cycle logic.
Moving 600 years into future to meet Andromeda timeline is IMO great, I myself am a proponent of merging the storylines together. But for some reason I am expecting minimal changes in the line of "oh well, we repaired the gates easy-peasy, there is some environmental damage, but we are doing totally okay otherwise, there is some minor crime in the colonies, but it would be boring without that, right?"
Linking the galaxies together is really fine, too. But then I see the idea about connecting the central black hole of our galaxy to some random hole in Andromeda floating around suspiciously often and think to myself "who in his right mind would try to manipulate the most important object of our galaxy which holds everything in place basically - and has a mass of who knows how much, but definitely enormously huge in relation to a regular black hole - by "connecting" it to some random small hole somewhere else, potentially resulting in a catastrophy of intergalactic proportions just because 'Kerr blackhole' sounds really cool?". And then I remember that there was someone who must have thought that giving Kett an Alcubierre drive to fly around was a pretty good idea, because it sounds so cool, too - which is definitely by far not as cool as the explosion that would wipe anything at the arrival destination upon the warp field collapse when the ships stop. People like that definitely would like to connect their holes, no matter what.
4 and 5 is definitely Marvel-induced mindrot. Not that there weren't ideas like that in sci-fi before, but Marvel made them really terrible.
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 17, 2024 1:15:24 GMT
I would think that the current BW staff is not that enamored with the artistic vision of Hudson and Walters, it's more about recognizing how you're going to anger a lot of fans whether you canonise one of the endings or retcon them. You can't win. So the way forward is to make story lines from Andromeda as engaging and interesting as possible to draw fans there, away from thinking about the endings so much. They are probably also hoping to gain new fans who will play this game first and enjoy it as it is without baggage. Oh I can totally believe that the nuBioware does not share the same artistic vision by the people who gave us Mass Effect and Garrus with badass, heroic personalities, where [white] men could be men in terms of mannerism and assertiveness, and where we as the players would enjoy some innocent male gaze content from time to time. It's soyboy time from now on, being bossed around by some female competence pretenders, listening to women problems with 3 different flavours of "oh, you totally are never wrong" as the only response options and on their behalf pursuing incompetent white males threating the beautiful diverse communities which are being led exclusively by the oh so wise women of different races and shapes, while simping for the ugliest specimens of said competence pretenders. I mean, we had Andromeda being quite a change in tone from ME series, but DA:VG is really something else as an indicator of nuBioware's direction.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Sept 17, 2024 9:56:51 GMT
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 17, 2024 10:38:16 GMT
Please describe in detail the problems in understanding you might have, I am always willing to help.
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Post by Guardian on Sept 17, 2024 12:13:53 GMT
I have to agree with Unicephalon 40-D here. I'm quite certain we understand quite well what you're saying. I can only speak for myself in this, but I have to politely disagree with your interpretation of how you saw Andromeda. We must have played different games, because I really didn't witness what you described.
As I've said many times - Andromeda is an okay game. 6.5/10, really. Worth playing at least once; just not what I would think of as Mass Effect. But that's okay - we all love this franchise at the end of the day; it's why we're passionate about it like this.
But there's really no need for that kind of response. You feel differently and that's fine. But there's no need for anyone, regardless of how they feel, to respond like that.
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 17, 2024 14:05:16 GMT
I have to agree with Unicephalon 40-D here. I'm quite certain we understand quite well what you're saying. I can only speak for myself in this, but I have to politely disagree with your interpretation of how you saw Andromeda. We must have played different games, because I really didn't witness what you described. As I've said many times - Andromeda is an okay game. 6.5/10, really. Worth playing at least once; just not what I would think of as Mass Effect. But that's okay - we all love this franchise at the end of the day; it's why we're passionate about it like this. But there's really no need for that kind of response. You feel differently and that's fine. But there's no need for anyone, regardless of how they feel, to respond like that. It's not only Andromeda, it's the trajectory that started with DA:I, hit ME3, continued with Andromeda and is now coming to fruition in DA:VG. I'm merely extrapolating where it's going. But I'm glad that you've got my point and it's absolutely fine to disagree. Maybe this kind of discussion is best to continue after DA:VG release, as there it will be clear whether I am maybe really simply not the part of that huge new target demographics Bioware is aiming at now - or maybe people in question might forced to be somewhat more receptive to my line of argumentation and I won't need to use such direct language causing such terrible emotional stress around these parts. Meanwhile, there are 2 other posts other than the third if you wish to comment.
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Post by Guardian on Sept 17, 2024 18:10:19 GMT
To be fair, a lot of us feel like we're not the "Target audience" anymore for the franchise that we started with. I don't think there's really anything more to discuss, because I doubt either of us will be able to change the other's mind.
But I do thank you for the civil and polite response. We can simply agree to disagree about things, but I do think that those of us that started with this franchise are no longer the target audience, regardless of how someone wants to define what that is.
Still, I will wait and give Veilguard a fair chance when it comes out. Not on day one, but after I read many reviews on it that are far and away from these boards. I'll do the same with ME 4 when it comes out, provided we get such a game. But until then, all we can do is speculate and discuss what we think the direction will be.
Regarding the current head of BioWare not wanting anything to do with Hudson/Walter's ending to ME 3, while I don't disagree with you on that hulluliini, I guess at this point, I can only speak for myself, but also would guess that many of us would like some sort of actual closure that lets the Milky Way move on properly, without just jumping to a whole different Galaxy is all. It's in their right to do so, but I just feel it leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. But at the same time, ME 4 isn't even in pre-production (or it could be? I don't know). I'm still willing to wait and hear how this will be handled before I make any decisions.
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Post by ClarkKent on Sept 17, 2024 22:14:45 GMT
I would think that the current BW staff is not that enamored with the artistic vision of Hudson and Walters, it's more about recognizing how you're going to anger a lot of fans whether you canonise one of the endings or retcon them. You can't win. So the way forward is to make story lines from Andromeda as engaging and interesting as possible to draw fans there, away from thinking about the endings so much. They are probably also hoping to gain new fans who will play this game first and enjoy it as it is without baggage. As a fan I would be 'angry' to find out Bioware are conjoining a zombified Milky Way Galaxy with the Andromeda universe. But if I find out they retconned/made canon the endings? I would be delighted. The endings were the worst part of the trilogy. Why would I be angry about the removal of the worst part? Indeed, I'm sure most of the fan base would be happy to have them removed if it meant we could see the milky way again. New fans will take anything as long as it's good so that's a non issue.
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Post by hulluliini on Sept 18, 2024 7:18:23 GMT
I would think that the current BW staff is not that enamored with the artistic vision of Hudson and Walters, it's more about recognizing how you're going to anger a lot of fans whether you canonise one of the endings or retcon them. You can't win. So the way forward is to make story lines from Andromeda as engaging and interesting as possible to draw fans there, away from thinking about the endings so much. They are probably also hoping to gain new fans who will play this game first and enjoy it as it is without baggage. As a fan I would be 'angry' to find out Bioware are conjoining a zombified Milky Way Galaxy with the Andromeda universe. But if I find out they retconned/made canon the endings? I would be delighted. The endings were the worst part of the trilogy. Why would I be angry about the removal of the worst part? Indeed, I'm sure most of the fan base would be happy to have them removed if it meant we could see the milky way again. New fans will take anything as long as it's good so that's a non issue. What I meant to say is that I feel the fanbase is roughly equally divided on these issues, so whatever they end up doing, a lot of fans are going to be angry (while a lot of others are going to be neutral or happy). My hope is they come up with a solution that they think works well, not what they think that fans want. It's the only way to keep it together. Not sure what you mean by conjoining but they just need to come up with some space magic to make fast(er) travel possible between the two galaxies. My guess, based on the concept art, is that Andromedans have travelled back to Milky Way (maybe on one of the arks) and the game won't take place in Andromeda but will have characters from there.
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