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Post by ClarkKent on Sept 19, 2024 11:48:40 GMT
As a fan I would be 'angry' to find out Bioware are conjoining a zombified Milky Way Galaxy with the Andromeda universe. But if I find out they retconned/made canon the endings? I would be delighted. The endings were the worst part of the trilogy. Why would I be angry about the removal of the worst part? Indeed, I'm sure most of the fan base would be happy to have them removed if it meant we could see the milky way again. New fans will take anything as long as it's good so that's a non issue. Not sure what you mean by conjoining but they just need to come up with some space magic to make fast(er) travel possible between the two galaxies. My guess, based on the concept art, is that Andromedans have travelled back to Milky Way (maybe on one of the arks) and the game won't take place in Andromeda but will have characters from there. I can see it too in the concept art and it sounds wack as hell. As a sequel to Andromeda it's terrible. The core themes of leaving one's home behind forever are dropped altogether. What was the point of attempted to settle the cluster if we were going to drive off back to the milky way anyway at the sight of the first macguffin. I can't believe I'm saying it but a straight Andromeda 2 would be preferential to that. At least they would be building on a setting they've established. And what is the point of visiting the milky way again if it's 600 years in the future? The world building established in the trilogy will be irrelevant by this time to the extent they'll need craft a new galaxy anyway. Or rather, they don't, but I assume strength of a 600 year time skip is that they can make things intentionally vague to the point that it's a blank state start. Seeing a veteran Grunt, an older Liara, and a dying Wrex is not enough of a foundation. I do see your point that Bioware should do what works for them rather than what the fans want, however, I'm simply not convinced it is the best way forward.
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Post by hulluliini on Sept 20, 2024 7:25:40 GMT
Not sure what you mean by conjoining but they just need to come up with some space magic to make fast(er) travel possible between the two galaxies. My guess, based on the concept art, is that Andromedans have travelled back to Milky Way (maybe on one of the arks) and the game won't take place in Andromeda but will have characters from there. I can see it too in the concept art and it sounds wack as hell. As a sequel to Andromeda it's terrible. The core themes of leaving one's home behind forever are dropped altogether. What was the point of attempted to settle the cluster if we were going to drive off back to the milky way anyway at the sight of the first macguffin. I can't believe I'm saying it but a straight Andromeda 2 would be preferential to that. At least they would be building on a setting they've established. And what is the point of visiting the milky way again if it's 600 years in the future? The world building established in the trilogy will be irrelevant by this time to the extent they'll need craft a new galaxy anyway. Or rather, they don't, but I assume strength of a 600 year time skip is that they can make things intentionally vague to the point that it's a blank state start. Seeing a veteran Grunt, an older Liara, and a dying Wrex is not enough of a foundation. I do see your point that Bioware should do what works for them rather than what the fans want, however, I'm simply not convinced it is the best way forward. i agree that a direct sequel to Andromeda would work better. I have zero interest in post-ME3 Milky Way. My hope is that they are treating this game as a bridge towards a genuine Andromeda sequel.
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 22, 2024 2:18:50 GMT
IMO the biggest issue with Andromeda setting as a stand-alone is that somewhere down the line - maybe rather quickly - the Initiative will be facing a couple of billions if not trillions of the same highly subversive species, whose single broken ship has spelt doom for a multiplanetary civilization. 200k, or how many are actually there, incompetent bums, who also like to kill each other for fun(hello Multiplayer mode), won't make it without outside help. Meridian has a giant target sign painted on it and for a Battlestar Galactica scenario it's too big to hide and probably needs lots of ressources to run its facilities. Trying to get help seems like a pretty logical move.
Milky Way doesn't need to be boring or dead, at all. Assume that the last couple of minutes were all in Shepard's head(I mean it's really pretty clear) and that Reapers buggered off with a big bang because ReaperAI needs another solution other than killing everyone. And then just look at the galactic map and imagine what happens when you disconnect the centres of civilization for a couple hundred years. Who might end the dominant species where and why/how, how would multi-species societies made up from stranded refugee ships look like(or would they even exist), how would different surviving centres of civilization interact with each other again when the relay network will start sloooooowly coming back again etc. IMO there is a lot of room for creative freedom.
When you connect both settings, you stabilize Andromeda and shake up Milky Way for some interesting interactions.
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Post by heinomk3 on Sept 22, 2024 10:35:42 GMT
Tbh, it's quite a bummer we won't get Shepard again, as the blue-green-red choice is actually a pretty great base for "origins" style of background to transform the protagonist a bit for a new adventure.
You chose control - get % bonus to tech damage and additional options/bonuses during interactions with technology and in agressive/assertive/controlling dialogues.
You chose synthesis - get bonuses to tech and biotics, with options and bonuses for "diplomatic" types of interactions.
"Destroy" - get bonuses to resilience and options and bonuses to interactions where you need to act/speak with great conviction.
And some more comments, thoughts and options here and there depending on these choices.
That would be pretty nice, but alas.. 😏
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Post by Cyberstrike on Sept 26, 2024 19:00:40 GMT
I would think that the current BW staff is not that enamored with the artistic vision of Hudson and Walters, it's more about recognizing how you're going to anger a lot of fans whether you canonise one of the endings or retcon them. You can't win. So the way forward is to make story lines from Andromeda as engaging and interesting as possible to draw fans there, away from thinking about the endings so much. They are probably also hoping to gain new fans who will play this game first and enjoy it as it is without baggage. Oh I can totally believe that the nuBioware does not share the same artistic vision by the people who gave us Mass Effect and Garrus with badass, heroic personalities, where [white] men could be men in terms of mannerism and assertiveness, and where we as the players would enjoy some innocent male gaze content from time to time. It's soyboy time from now on, being bossed around by some female competence pretenders, listening to women problems with 3 different flavours of "oh, you totally are never wrong" as the only response options and on their behalf pursuing incompetent white males threating the beautiful diverse communities which are being led exclusively by the oh so wise women of different races and shapes, while simping for the ugliest specimens of said competence pretenders. I mean, we had Andromeda being quite a change in tone from ME series, but DA:VG is really something else as an indicator of nuBioware's direction. Oh goody look it's constantly debunked "Go Woke, Go Broke" bullshit in a new package. Take that shit somewhere else and sell it to lying drunk braindead incel bigots.
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Post by Cyberstrike on Sept 27, 2024 23:59:21 GMT
You can play as a transgender character in BG3 and non-binary character in Starfield and yet I haven't yet but here is the thing I love having the option to play as a say a biracial non-binary, transgender, and queer character because as a cis gendered straight white man I know what that is like let me take a walk on the other side. I play games like Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Baldur's Gate, Starfield, Fallout, The Elder Scrolls, Assassin's Creed: Odyssey, and Assassin's Creed: Valhalla and games where I can play as women, people of color, and LGBTQ+ like the Life is Strange, The Last of Us, Tomb Raider, and Resident Evil games not to just escape this fucked up world.
I've lost count the number of times I played the MET and counting MELE it would be close to 60 complete playthroughs from 1-3 and all DLC. Do you know how many times I played as FemShep? It would be 60 times. I've logged over 1200 hours in MEA on both Xbox and PlayStation I have only played as Scott Ryder 1 time, the rest were Sara Ryder. I played as a male Warden to get the achievement/trophy for banging Morrigan but only time I have played as a male Warden from origin story to the Witch Hunt DLC. I've never played Male Hawke in DA2 and I've never played a male Inquisitor in DAI a game I have logged over 1400+ hours over 6 consoles in 3 generations.
TL;DR Don't want to play a transgender character then don't create one it's really that fucking simple, and if you don't want real world issues in your games then go play old Atari games or play card games like Poker, Blackjack, or Solitaire.
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