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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 8, 2018 20:29:46 GMT
Grrr, Mmmh, *angry and pissy*, idk. Okay, so I got your attention. Thanks. On Thessia you discover the beacon with Vendetta VI in it and it explains asari superiority by being a beacon kept hidden for 1000s of years as a relic passed down from the protheans to Asari, leading them to be the first to discover the Citadel and stuff.... but, how the heck did they access it? As far as I know nobody except Saren or Shepard had the cipher or the visions. I'm sure this prothean beacon may have given some Asari pack-leader some nightmares and stomach turners of alien goo or something but seriously, how does this explain how they found the Citadel or gained "superiority" thanks to knowledge of the Protheans. How did they comprehend these messages? No, rather, how the FUCK did they comprehend them, huh!?
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 9, 2018 21:07:32 GMT
"Your people kept it hidden, and had thousands of years to study it. That must be why they are so advanced." Advanced how? The only headstart they had was discovering the Citadel first which I always attributed to their lengthy lifespan and possible longest existence among all species in the galaxy.
"Even a small amount of data gives your species an edge". How, if they don't understand it. How would the asari ever learn prothean. Okay, I'll go with this here, since there's possiblilities. The Throain offered Shiala the cipher after having studied the protheans when they came to Feros. It's not completely unreasonable to suggest that long before Saren's existence, some asari might've also either discovered the "collective unconscious" science of the prothean themselves or found the thorian too.
However, I still don't get the fuss. They found the Citadel... that's it. They managed to evolve faster by discovering the relay network as the first species, there's no conflict of power at all, at least nothing obvious besides the fact that Asari maybe seem a bit more knowledgeble. Of all races in the series they had the least of conflicts with the other citadel races like turians and salarians vs krogan or quarians and their geth.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 9, 2018 23:10:42 GMT
I assume the hardware of the beacon itself contains some Mass Effect technology. This might have made it easier for asari scientists to come up with designs themselves or at least given them an idea of what is possible. Imagine if Leonardo da Vinci actually had a modern airplane or helicopter to study. He might not have understood half of how it works exactly but it might have given him a lot of insight to make his own designs more viable. Just knowing that something is possible can give a scientist or engineer a massive advantage.Being able to maybe partially retroengineer some aspects of an advanced design even more so. So yes, I do think it's entirely plausible that even an inactive or idling beacon would have given the asari exactly the edge they needed to discover the Citadel first. Obviously the prothean mentoring earlier would have helped as well but I can see how the beacon was likely an important factor.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 10, 2018 6:38:55 GMT
Well, if humans could learn from the beacon on Mars, it stands to reason that the asari could learn from the beacon on Thessia. Difference being that the Mars beacon was SHARED across all species, keeping things even. The Thessia beacon was horded, giving the asari an advantage. If, say, the Eden Prime beacon had not been brought to the attention of the Council, I imagine a) it might not have exploded (if didn't explode on Saren) and humanity would have leaped forward and perhaps been even MORE "equal" to the other Council races. FYI, I assume the volus, elcor, vorcha and other races never encountered Prothean beacons on their own. That may well be why they lagged behind while humans ended up a Council race in just three decades.
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Post by KrrKs on Feb 10, 2018 13:59:03 GMT
My headcanon to that is based on the fact assumption that the Thessia beacon is the only known one not placed on an exclusively prothean world/outpost. As that, It would make sense for the protheans to have this beacon adapted to asari physiology as well as the prothean one, or have selected asari schooled in usage of this technology. 'Janiri' and his/her team can't be near that beacon all the time. Having a few trained acolytes to contact from some/any -where else would be practical.
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 10, 2018 16:37:40 GMT
Well, if humans could learn from the beacon on Mars, it stands to reason that the asari could learn from the beacon on Thessia. Difference being that the Mars beacon was SHARED across all species, keeping things even. The Thessia beacon was horded, giving the asari an advantage. If, say, the Eden Prime beacon had not been brought to the attention of the Council, I imagine a) it might not have exploded (if didn't explode on Saren) and humanity would have leaped forward and perhaps been even MORE "equal" to the other Council races. FYI, I assume the volus, elcor, vorcha and other races never encountered Prothean beacons on their own. That may well be why they lagged behind while humans ended up a Council race in just three decades. Well, the situation on Mars was a bit different though. According to the Revelation novel, the Mars base contained both, prothean data discs with actual data on it, that could eventually be read and translated by scientists on earth and prothean space ships. So the humans had a lot to work with. Also, it is mentioned a couple of times in the games and books that most space faring species in the MW encountered prothean ruins in their solar systems, which helped them develp FTL travel. One that comes to mind is the planetary description of Varush (or rather it's moon Bina) in the batarian home system: So the humans are by no means special in that regard. I guess the asari had an advantage though because the beacon was on their home planet, so they would have had it even before developing space flight on their own. My headcanon to that is based on the fact assumption that the Thessia beacon is the only known one not placed on an exclusively prothean world/outpost. As that, It would make sense for the protheans to have this beacon adapted to asari physiology as well as the prothean one, or have selected asari schooled in usage of this technology. 'Janiri' and his/her team can't be near that beacon all the time. Having a few trained acolytes to contact from some/any -where else would be practical. But if that were the case, shouldn't the asari also have gotten (and understood) the message from Illos? According to Vigil, they sent it out all across the beacon network, so the Thessia beacon should have received it as well. Also, If the asari would have figured out how to activate the beacon, they should have also activated Vendetta and we'd have had the crucible long before the reapers ever showed up.
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Post by KrrKs on Feb 10, 2018 19:38:38 GMT
My headcanon to that is based on the fact assumption that the Thessia beacon is the only known one not placed on an exclusively prothean world/outpost. As that, It would make sense for the protheans to have this beacon adapted to asari physiology as well as the prothean one, or have selected asari schooled in usage of this technology. 'Janiri' and his/her team can't be near that beacon all the time. Having a few trained acolytes to contact from some/any -where else would be practical. But if that were the case, shouldn't the asari also have gotten 9and understood) the message from Illos? According to Vigil, they sent it out all across the beacon network, so the Thessia beacon should have received it as well. Also, If the asari would have figured out how to activate the beacon, they should have also activated Vendetta and we'd have had the crucible long before the reapers ever showed up. Right! I confess my thought process stopped somewhere between ' ancient asari could probably use it' and ' well, dem politicians ar stoopid, keepin' it secret. Durr'. I can't see a non contrived way out of that.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Feb 11, 2018 2:38:05 GMT
But if that were the case, shouldn't the asari also have gotten 9and understood) the message from Illos? According to Vigil, they sent it out all across the beacon network, so the Thessia beacon should have received it as well. Also, If the asari would have figured out how to activate the beacon, they should have also activated Vendetta and we'd have had the crucible long before the reapers ever showed up. Right! I confess my thought process stopped somewhere between ' ancient asari could probably use it' and ' well, dem politicians ar stoopid, keepin' it secret. Durr'. I can't see a non contrived way out of that. Considering how disappointed Javik is with the Asari it is most likely they left it there with no special way to utilize it. Hoping the Asari thanks to their interference would be able to work it out for themselves. Which they failed to do. And or how to access it was lost in some ancient conflict or problem. Roman empire learned how to create a really strong cement that was lost when it collapsed and took us a while to rediscover how to make it and even longer to figure out how the Roman's made such a more effective version of it.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 11, 2018 4:29:41 GMT
AnDromedary: regarding the batarians, why do I feel like they were a Council race until they were expelled for being evil slavers? Or were they merely an associate race like the rest?
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 11, 2018 17:42:33 GMT
AnDromedary : regarding the batarians, why do I feel like they were a Council race until they were expelled for being evil slavers? Or were they merely an associate race like the rest? According to Avina, who reviews council history with you in ME1, Only the asari, salarians and turians were ever on the council before the humans came along. If you listen to some dudes talking in the council chambers in ME1, they speculate that if the humans get a council seat, the elcor, hanar and/or volus would probably also lobby to get one in the near future. AFAIK, the batarians were never close to getting a council seat. ... That would have been awesome though. A batarian would have fit right in with that bunch.
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 11, 2018 18:55:20 GMT
AnDromedary : regarding the batarians, why do I feel like they were a Council race until they were expelled for being evil slavers? Or were they merely an associate race like the rest? According to Avina, who reviews council history with you in ME1, Only the asari, salarians and turians were ever on the council before the humans came along. If you listen to some dudes talking in the council chambers in ME1, they speculate that if the humans get a council seat, the elcor, hanar and/or volus would probably also lobby to get one in the near future. AFAIK, the batarians were never close to getting a council seat. ... That would have been awesome though. A batarian would have fit right in with that bunch. At least the batarian would have been honest. However, this makes sense. Were the batarians a Council race, humans would have had no hope because we'd all have been enslaved.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 21, 2018 13:33:05 GMT
Didn't the VI say something about how some prothean acted as a goddess and taught her followers some shit? or something? lol
I really need to replay the games...
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Post by dmc1001 on Feb 21, 2018 14:57:16 GMT
Didn't the VI say something about how some prothean acted as a goddess and taught her followers some shit? or something? lol I really need to replay the games... Javik just pointed at all the pictures of Protheans teaching the asari shown in the Temple of Athame on Thessia. Or the blatant Prothean head sculptures found there. Stuff like that. That said, if asari could sort out Prothean messages inserted into human minds, it stands to reason they could do the same for one another. And, as you say, they probably had more of an understanding of Protheans than they realized and so did not need the Cipher like Shepard. Still, it does come across as a weird disconnect when you have to jump through major hoops in ME1 to understand the message but the asari have been understanding all along. I'd say it's because of a damaged beacon but Shepard found two in ME1 and, potentially, a third in ME2. Shepard should have had zero surprises about the Protheans by the time ME3 rolled around, including about their capabilities and general history, or even that they had manipulated all the younger races. (Definitely knew since ME1 that they'd been to Earth in our pre-history days.)
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 21, 2018 14:57:57 GMT
Didn't the VI say something about how some prothean acted as a goddess and taught her followers some shit? or something? lol I really need to replay the games... That barely makes sense to me since the Protheans were wiped out by Reapers and the reason the Asari weren't is because they were too primitive. I think the prothean goddess is the folklore the Asari supposedly spread from the discovery of the beacon which gave them visions and... knowledge, but the part where it gave them knowledge seems pretty contrived to me and frankly unbelievable considering the key to understanding the beacon for Shepard required the Cipher and that was in a peak maturity of our cycle right when Reapers were banging on the door, so we had enough discoveries to be lucky enough to have found the Thorian which had the cipher. I also think the Thorian is kinda old like the Leviathan in concept, a reclusive species that the Reapers never bothered to interefere with and as such it contains old, old knowledge or maybe it's just a physiological match out of luck with Prothean communion. Also, from Linkedin, John Dombrow wrote this part, just another part in my list of reasons why he's the most overrated writer -- HA! (but lowkey he's still the most talented outside of Pat. Weekes)
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Post by sgtreed24 on Feb 21, 2018 15:33:48 GMT
But if protheans were working hands on with the asari pre-reaper apocalypse... wouldn't that explain why they don't need the cipher to understand prothean stuff? They basically already gained the insight of their culture by working with them.
So the early asari had this knowledge and when they mate don't they like, mind meld with each other? So, this could pass on the knowledge to later generations and that's why when they find the beacon, they can use it to develop tech and even later liara can help shepard understand part of the visions and such? Not sure, just doesn't seem all that far-fetched to me.
Or maybe I'm not understanding the question? lol
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Post by AnDromedary on Feb 21, 2018 17:47:20 GMT
IIRC, there are a lot hints in the game that the protheans did in fact mentor the very early asari, when they were just about to become a civilization. It's mostly Javik, who throws out a lot of points on Thessia and in his rather heated discussion with Liara.
The way I interpreted it is this: The protheans studied the asari on Thessia undetected, just like they did with the humans and lot's of other species. When the reaper invasion happened, the protheans at Thessia (isolated from the rest of the galaxy) decided to interfere and mentor the asari for a while, showing them some early stuff, like early farming techniques and apparently also saving them from a potential catastrophe (maybe an asteroid, headed for Thessia, Javik mentions something like this in the temple, IIRC). Remember that the reaper invasion of the galaxy back in the prothean cycle took centuries according to vigil. The protheans at Thessia might have had a long time to teach the asari some stuff and get induced in very early asari religion that way. However, the protheans realized that they couldn't teach the asari too much or the reapers would wipe them out as well, once they came around, so after a while, they pulled out, leaving the asari to develop on their own from now on. In my headcanon, at this point the asari might be somewhere on the level just before building their first "higher civilization" form (like humans, just before the rise of ancient Egypt). The protheans burried the beacon (to be found again later by asari archeologists) and left.
The asari would now develop on their own. They clearly don't have the cypher (if they had it as a species, Liara should have had it in ME1, and so would Benezia and Shiala, neither Saren nor Shepard would have needed the Thorian). They also clearly couldn't activate the beacon or were taught by the protheans how to use it (see my post above). They also didn't know of the reaper invasion. Yet, they clearly encountered the protheans and incorporated them into their culture and religion as mythic entities and gods.
Therefore, I can only assume that the protheans only taught them very early stuff (like farming, the use of fire, etc.) in order to give them an edge for the next cycle because the protheans saw the potential of the asari to lead and keep unified the other developing races when their time came. They did as much as they deemed safe, not to set the reapers loose on the asari in their cycle already and then got the hell out.
IMO, it was a fairly smart move.
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Post by burnsidhe on Mar 18, 2018 6:15:49 GMT
Think about this:
Nowhere in the games do we see Asari as actually being more advanced than the rest of the galaxy. Nowhere in the games do we see the asari having a clear advantage in tech. Almost everything can be explained by a> having intelligent people who live *and work* for a thousand years, and b> having a massive and effectively limitless stockpile of eezo as part of their home planet.
Shamus Young put it best: "So the Asari studied an artifact without ever learning the one thing it was specifically designed to teach them, but which gave them a technological boost that isn’t depicted. Then they decided to hide the artifact by making up a religion they didn’t need, and which people had no reason to believe in, so that they could put the artifact where it couldn’t be further studied. Then they formed a secret conspiracy to give the religion money it shouldn’t need, in order to conceal the source of technology they didn’t have, from people who weren’t looking for it."
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 18, 2018 11:00:27 GMT
Think about this: Nowhere in the games do we see Asari as actually being more advanced than the rest of the galaxy. Nowhere in the games do we see the asari having a clear advantage in tech. Almost everything can be explained by a> having intelligent people who live *and work* for a thousand years, and b> having a massive and effectively limitless stockpile of eezo as part of their home planet. Shamus Young put it best: "So the Asari studied an artifact without ever learning the one thing it was specifically designed to teach them, but which gave them a technological boost that isn’t depicted. Then they decided to hide the artifact by making up a religion they didn’t need, and which people had no reason to believe in, so that they could put the artifact where it couldn’t be further studied. Then they formed a secret conspiracy to give the religion money it shouldn’t need, in order to conceal the source of technology they didn’t have, from people who weren’t looking for it." Welp, this hits the nail on the head. This is an overtly unnecessary contrivance for the sake of... Err... Drama? This is the issue i think i felt: why is this even highlighted in the story? It's like some kind of fake, invented mystery that gets introduced and subverted in one scene.
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Post by sil on Mar 20, 2018 16:46:01 GMT
Although he has some good points sometimes I'm not a fan of Shamus Young, so my comment here won't be supporting what he wrote in that quote. Especially to do with the section involving religion. The idea that the asari would create an artificial religion to hide a prothean beacon is moronic, bordering on ludicrous, and shows an intense misunderstanding how the theories of how and why religion forms. The stories of the protheans gradually morphed into legends and into stories of the goddesses, we have to remember that the protheans were teaching them 50,000 years ago and it took them roughly 47,000 for their civilisation to reach a point where they had the technology to get to the Citadel. That might be quicker than many species would advance, but that wouldn't be down to the beacon (until their tech had advanced to a point they would be incapable of interacting with it to learn its secrets) but down to getting a helping hand with inventions like agriculture at an early stage. The religion, one of many on the planet, would've emerged naturally via oral tradition and would've been used as a way of answering questions (and remembering ancient events) that their civilisation was not capable of answering.
Lets also remember that the religion involving the goddesses is dwindling, most follow the Siari religion which involves a universal consciousness and the old goddesses are mostly remembered as tales and stories. The words "By the goddess" and other similar phrases, are likely cultural artefacts that are still said because of the social history of the word, kind of like how some people say "oh my god", even when they don't belief in one (such as myself, family was catholic, I'm not, but the words stick as you get used to saying them). It's pretty much clear that its an old religion whose temples are maintained for the sake of history, or in the case of the thessia mission, to hide artefacts. Now, it's obvious that once they were advanced enough they learnt from the beacon and that gave them an edge. But the idea of crafting a religion to hide it is insane, especially when the goddess revered in the Temple has been passed up in favour of the Siari religion.
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Post by burnsidhe on Mar 21, 2018 20:43:22 GMT
What edge? Where is the 'edge' that the Asari have that can't be explained by the fact that a> they live and work and study and learn and teach for an incredibly long time? Where is the 'edge' that the Asari have that can't be explained by the fact they're living on a gold mine?
Instead, all we see is that the Asari have slightly better gear than the rest of the galaxy.
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Post by aoibhealfae on Apr 1, 2018 13:23:07 GMT
Think about it this way. You are a descendant from a family from the Stone Age era and thousands of years ago, your family found a terminal with an AI of a library from other alien culture that could teach you EVERYTHINg. How to speak, read and write in different language, heck even in programming languages. How to do math and chemistry. How to domesticate livestock and build cities.
Your family hold this library to create a civilization and the only one who know about this is ONLY your family. Everyone else worship you, because to them, your new tech is magic. You get to become kings and queens and get all the power and richness from it. Let say you somehow prolong your average life to a thousand years. And when some problematic issue rose up (say Rachni wars and Krogan Rebellion), you and your partners could sit on this for centuries until the problem goes away or die of old age or forgotten.... regardless the fact that your family, the creator of all these wonderful civilization, could help the others to reach their full potential... but you don't want to. And then just like the morons before you, you wished you could outlive the problems that got dropped on you.
See Asari's Reaper solution here?
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Post by lawp79 on Apr 11, 2018 21:50:18 GMT
Aren't the Asari the only species born Biotic? Other species require exposure to element zero.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 12, 2018 5:31:10 GMT
Aren't the Asari the only species born Biotic? Other species require exposure to element zero. Yes, but it's because their planet is full of eezo. I have to assume that evolution weeded out any asari who didn't adapt to eezo and those that remained are all biotics. I believe other life native to Thessia is also biotic, at least according to the Wiki. Also, the Protheans altered them to adapt to eezo.
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Post by Princess Trejo on May 8, 2018 14:48:56 GMT
There are probably more ancient Prothean cities on Thessia than Ilos, so the wisest of the Asari cavewomen studied it in secret for 50k years and the result? they became post-Prothean most advanced race but not most "developed" race. They couldn't handle their own pureblood genetic flaws. The Salarians wins, Salarian tech toppled Asari stuff.
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