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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 4, 2016 21:33:12 GMT
I think that'd get boring quickly for a lot of people; Mass Effect being a purely bounty hunter game. From what I've been hearing, it sounds like ME:A will be similar to Skyrim, in that there are two warring factions and you step in to influence one or the other. Mixed in with a bit of DA:I base/army building. Pure speculation though. I don't have a problem with the "save the galaxy" type game. There are countless ways to tell that story, despite the macro aspect being the same. I didn't mean it like that, I meant it based on the character. Just somebody a little different than what we've already seen from virtually every Bioware game that I can even remember. They always delve into the typical "Save the world" type of a story. Take Geralt from Witcher 3, he was a monster slayer but his games weren't purely about monster slaying. That's what I meant and besides, Bounty Hunter was just an example. No necessarily. Dragon Age 2 didn't have a 'Save the World' story. It was a story about a family of refugees trying to survive in a new place and getting sucked into local events. Geralt in TW3 is an interesting example, considering that game had a 'Save The World' plot that you seem to be against.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 4, 2016 21:34:33 GMT
So, don't be like Mass Effect 2? I'm fine with that. There are plenty of things I like and love in ME2, but overall it is easily my least favorite game in the Shepard Trilogy.
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Post by rayman on Oct 4, 2016 21:34:42 GMT
ehh why do we even compare between those two totally different things? Comparing what exactly? GoTG? It's just personal vibes I got from the recent gameplay video, primarily that stupid Asari running animation. It put the fear of this turning into some silly "Whacky Space adventure" instead of remaining in the same vein as prior Mass Effect games that all struck a pretty solid balance of seriousness and light hearted comedy/interactions. Like I said, I could be way off and I hope I am but seeing as we have exactly jack and shit in the way of gameplay footage it's all I really have to comment on. Also, yep, I meant primarily Geralt as a whole in Witcher 1, 2 or 3. I didn't like the "save the world plot" that it ended up being but in saying that and to be fair on the traditional "trilogy format", it was inevitable. The example was given to combat the "Being a Bounty Hunter would be boring" argument that the person I was replying to put fourth. Geralt is essentially a Monster Slayer but he doesn't just hunt Monsters throughout the games.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 4, 2016 21:38:01 GMT
ehh why do we even compare between those two totally different things? Comparing what exactly? GoTG? It's just personal vibes I got from the recent gameplay video, primarily that stupid Asari running animation. It put the fear of this turning into some silly "Whacky Space adventure" instead of remaining in the same vein as prior Mass Effect games that all struck a pretty solid balance of seriousness and light hearted comedy/interactions. Like I said, I could be way off and I hope I am but seeing as we have exactly jack and shit in the way of gameplay footage it's all I really have to comment on. That Gallipoli-like charge to the beam was a barrel of laughs wasn't it? Seriously, Mass Effect could do with a little less Zach Snyder and a little more James Gunn
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Post by rayman on Oct 4, 2016 21:39:50 GMT
Comparing what exactly? GoTG? It's just personal vibes I got from the recent gameplay video, primarily that stupid Asari running animation. It put the fear of this turning into some silly "Whacky Space adventure" instead of remaining in the same vein as prior Mass Effect games that all struck a pretty solid balance of seriousness and light hearted comedy/interactions. Like I said, I could be way off and I hope I am but seeing as we have exactly jack and shit in the way of gameplay footage it's all I really have to comment on. That Gallipoli-like charge to the beam was a barrel of laughs wasn't it? Seriously, Mass Effect could do with a little less Zach Snyder and a little more James Gunn Mass Effect is nothing like Zack Snyders workings either. It just seems to me that you don't like Mass Effects general theme as you literally expressed when you said "I will take Guardians of the Galaxy over Mass Effect any day".
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Post by patriciachr34 on Oct 4, 2016 22:13:36 GMT
I think a person can like both Guardians of the Galaxy and Mass Effect. One does not necessarily preclude the other. Yes they are different, but for different reasons they are both very enjoyable. However, I get the impression that Andromeda will not be like either of these. It will be Andromeda that sits in a different space of the Mass Effect universe. I think that anyone who expects Andromeda to be like ME will be disappointed. I am going into the game without any expectations save for a good story. I will be very disappointed if the story does not hold up.
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Post by dalinne on Oct 4, 2016 22:17:15 GMT
Haters gonna hate
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Post by KirkyX on Oct 4, 2016 22:25:28 GMT
So, about that time I proposed an adaptation of the Guardians of the Galaxy opening sequence for Andromeda... (also it's still a great idea FIGHT ME )
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Post by rayman on Oct 4, 2016 23:46:17 GMT
I think a person can like both Guardians of the Galaxy and Mass Effect. Who tried to claim otherwise?
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Post by linksocarina on Oct 5, 2016 2:52:58 GMT
You can leave your friends behind. Because your friends don't GotG and if they don't GotG, well they're no friends of mine!
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Oct 5, 2016 3:30:46 GMT
A family going to a new uncharted galaxy, because their old galaxy is likely destroyed. Going to a galaxy where they are the invading aliens and likely really, REALLY, unwelcomed. Having to set up a home in order to save their species and the species that were with them. So far, that doesn't sound like GoTG. Just because it has space and aliens, doesn't make it a GoTG rip-off. If that's the case, GoTG ripped-off the Orions from 1966 Star Trek, by making Gamora (Orions are green skinned). MEA is about saving the life of your family and self, not 1/4 of an uncharted galaxy.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 5, 2016 3:56:57 GMT
Snip Also, am I alone in being slightly disappointed that this is (by the sounds of things) yet another "Save the Galaxy" type adventure? Snip ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Humanity + co. flee the Milky Way to the Helius cluster. Here we have one objective... to find and colonise new world(s) for humanity.
How can 4-12 ARKs be capable of "saving anything" ?
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 5, 2016 3:58:57 GMT
Yeah...I'm not buying it if we have a space raccoon.....wait.....we do have a space raccoon ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Uh..Ooh.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 5, 2016 13:34:14 GMT
Snip Also, am I alone in being slightly disappointed that this is (by the sounds of things) yet another "Save the Galaxy" type adventure? Snip ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Humanity + co. flee the Milky Way to the Helius cluster. Here we have one objective... to find and colonise new world(s) for humanity.
How can 4-12 ARKs be capable of "saving anything" ?
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Post by Vortex13 on Oct 5, 2016 13:55:20 GMT
I guess Mass Effect isn't the series for you then Citadel wasn't Mass Effect, then. Probably not Lair of the Shadow Broker either. Nor was pretty much anything Grunt did. Or Garrus. Or Joker. What an empty galaxy it would be without Blasto. I agree, Mass Effect should have a level of light hearted brevity to it. Though I would have to say that I personally disliked the Citadel DLC; it felt way too forced, and it seemed like I was playing with exaggerated caricatures of my squad mates instead of the real thing. And I detest Blasto; and the fact that he is now the poster child of the Hanar; with the fury of a thousand dying suns.
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Post by Iakus on Oct 5, 2016 15:32:17 GMT
Citadel was the ending we needed. But not the ending we deserved.
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Post by LFS on Oct 5, 2016 19:18:25 GMT
On the other hand, think of all they'd save on pesky things like word budgets and voice acting costs if the only dialogue option is "I am Ryder".
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Post by Duke Cameron on Oct 5, 2016 19:42:01 GMT
If Mass Effect isn't supposed to be a fun, occasionally silly, but overall a positive action-filled scifi adventure, then no, I don't want Mass Effect I guess Mass Effect isn't the series for you then Get off your high horse.
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Post by The Hype Himself on Oct 5, 2016 21:30:48 GMT
Citadel was the ending we needed. But not the ending we deserved. Sure, we got the ending we deserved and needed. You didn't. But that's rectifiable. Just trigger the Reapers on the galaxy map and let them catch you.
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Post by Tarkus on Oct 5, 2016 23:03:37 GMT
In what way is Mass Effect 2 even remotely similar to GoTG? GoTG was some silly comedy with a Sci Fi setting based in a Comic Book Universe, Mass Effect 2 was a pure Sci Fi game that unlike the first and third game, had a significantly more low key plot that felt more focused as well. A lot of people shit on the plot for "not really going anywhere" and being too much like filler but I think that's partly why it's widely regarded as the peak of the series (at least from what i've seen).It's writing, tone and overall aesthetic was fantastic. It had a serious and almost brutal tone at times whilst still managing to throw in humor now and then without overdoing it. I'm pretty sure the plot in ME 2 "not really going anywhere" had nothing to do why it's widely regarded as the series peak, pretty sure its gameplay improvements were the reason. I don't know man, Miranda and Jacob having ass shots in their "armor", along with Samara showing cleavage despite being a holy warrior monk, alot of the squaddies only having a rebreather on dangerous worlds, Thane flashing his cleavage, and Jack wearing only a belt bra for a top didn't scream Serious/Brutal to me.
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Post by rayman on Oct 5, 2016 23:34:14 GMT
In what way is Mass Effect 2 even remotely similar to GoTG? GoTG was some silly comedy with a Sci Fi setting based in a Comic Book Universe, Mass Effect 2 was a pure Sci Fi game that unlike the first and third game, had a significantly more low key plot that felt more focused as well. A lot of people shit on the plot for "not really going anywhere" and being too much like filler but I think that's partly why it's widely regarded as the peak of the series (at least from what i've seen).It's writing, tone and overall aesthetic was fantastic. It had a serious and almost brutal tone at times whilst still managing to throw in humor now and then without overdoing it. I'm pretty sure the plot in ME 2 "not really going anywhere" had nothing to do why it's widely regarded as the series peak, pretty sure its gameplay improvements were the reason. I don't know man, Miranda and Jacob having ass shots in their "armor", along with Samara showing cleavage despite being a holy warrior monk, alot of the squaddies only having a rebreather on dangerous worlds, Thane flashing his cleavage, and Jack wearing only a belt bra for a top didn't scream Serious/Brutal to me. What does any of that have to do with tone? Who even used the words "brutal"? What your proposing is irrelevant in itself unless you think any film that showcases nudity and explicit scenes cannot also have a serious tone to it. Why? For pointing out his own words? Get off your high horse and provide an argument.
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Post by Tarkus on Oct 5, 2016 23:58:04 GMT
I'm pretty sure the plot in ME 2 "not really going anywhere" had nothing to do why it's widely regarded as the series peak, pretty sure its gameplay improvements were the reason. I don't know man, Miranda and Jacob having ass shots in their "armor", along with Samara showing cleavage despite being a holy warrior monk, alot of the squaddies only having a rebreather on dangerous worlds, Thane flashing his cleavage, and Jack wearing only a belt bra for a top didn't scream Serious/Brutal to me. What does any of that have to do with tone? Who even used the words "brutal"? What your proposing is irrelevant in itself unless you think any film that showcases nudity and explicit scenes cannot also have a serious tone to it. Aesthetics were also mentioned, and the outfits that some of the companions had on detracted from whatever serious tone that Mass Effect 2 had. You used the word brutal, check the post I quoted, it's yours from the first page. I think they have some relevance since what some of the companions have on clashes with information in the games' Codex, namely in the need for them to have hardsuits with helmets on toxic/dangerous enviroments since shields and biotic barriers don't protect them from that.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 6, 2016 0:38:20 GMT
I'm pretty sure the plot in ME 2 "not really going anywhere" had nothing to do why it's widely regarded as the series peak, pretty sure its gameplay improvements were the reason. I don't know man, Miranda and Jacob having ass shots in their "armor", along with Samara showing cleavage despite being a holy warrior monk, alot of the squaddies only having a rebreather on dangerous worlds, Thane flashing his cleavage, and Jack wearing only a belt bra for a top didn't scream Serious/Brutal to me. What does any of that have to do with tone? Who even used the words "brutal"? What your proposing is irrelevant in itself unless you think any film that showcases nudity and explicit scenes cannot also have a serious tone to it. Well, it throws out any serious tone the franchise had regarding that part of the lore. The lore and Mass Effect 1 establish that to deal with environmental hazards you need a fully sealed suit, and yet in Mass Effect 2 half the crew were wearing open clothes in situations that would kill them within a couple minutes in reality.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2016 1:49:55 GMT
seriously, the gear for toxic environments/vacuum that literally everyone except Tali (to whom everything is a hazardous environment anyway) and Garrus (whose suit still has a gigantic hole in it unless you get DLC) wear in ME2 are far more laughable from a hard Scifi perspective than anything in GotG. The breather masks without even an airtank attached are just laughably bad.
At least it's treated like a huge risk in GotG when Quill goes out into the vacuum of space to save Gamora. People just flop their T&A and exposed skin/eyes/orifices all around in hazardous evironments ME2 without so much as wearing a proper shirt or pants and never suffer any ill effects.
Not necessarily making a value judgement either way here, but the franchises are basically in the same sort of space fantasy territory as of ME2.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 9, 2016 6:13:42 GMT
I think a person can like both Guardians of the Galaxy and Mass Effect. One does not necessarily preclude the other. Yes they are different, but for different reasons they are both very enjoyable. However, I get the impression that Andromeda will not be like either of these. It will be Andromeda that sits in a different space of the Mass Effect universe. I think that anyone who expects Andromeda to be like ME will be disappointed. I am going into the game without any expectations save for a good story. I will be very disappointed if the story does not hold up.I honestly have no idea what to expect from ME:A, and it bugs me. I want to know if I should look forward to it or not, but even then that's impossible, because they could screw up again with no warning. On the other hand, think of all they'd save on pesky things like word budgets and voice acting costs if the only dialogue option is "I am Ryder". I am Ryder.No, really What does any of that have to do with tone? Who even used the words "brutal"? What your proposing is irrelevant in itself unless you think any film that showcases nudity and explicit scenes cannot also have a serious tone to it. Well, it throws out any serious tone the franchise had regarding that part of the lore. The lore and Mass Effect 1 establish that to deal with environmental hazards you need a fully sealed suit, and yet in Mass Effect 2 half the crew were wearing open clothes in situations that would kill them within a couple minutes in reality. Yep, and guess what? By the look of things, we're going to be doing it all over again in ME:A! Despite my hopes that a "new" studio would perhaps be a bit more mature/consistent/realistic. Oh well.
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