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Post by pavellaning on Mar 28, 2018 5:11:23 GMT
Has anyone else done this besides my Tabris?
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Post by warden on Mar 28, 2018 7:22:16 GMT
I'm sure a bunch of people has done it but it's not a popular choice
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 7:35:39 GMT
Why? Why would you do such a horrible thing? It'd be like making a deal with Howe if you were a Cousland...
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Post by pavellaning on Mar 28, 2018 15:02:11 GMT
Why? Why would you do such a horrible thing? It'd be like making a deal with Howe if you were a Cousland... Because my Tabris is evil.
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Post by vertigomez on Mar 28, 2018 15:52:44 GMT
I haven't done it. I doubt I will, I don't have the willpower to be that evil in DA.
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Post by MarilynRobert on Mar 28, 2018 21:10:53 GMT
I never do evil things...just can't make myself be evil at all.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 21:23:45 GMT
Why? Why would you do such a horrible thing? It'd be like making a deal with Howe if you were a Cousland... Because my Tabris is evil. You're Tabris is a murderous traitor.
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Post by Curious Crow on Mar 28, 2018 21:28:32 GMT
Tildren did that as well. He would have settled for selling him as a slave, but Caladrius was being unreasonable. Imagine his disappointment when his dad was then at the ceremony alive and well after Loghain kicked the bucket. And had the nerve to say he was proud of him. Another tune than the one he would have sung if Tildren had set him free... But then again, like father like son? Who are you really Cyrion?
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Post by pavellaning on Mar 28, 2018 22:20:35 GMT
Because my Tabris is evil. You're Tabris is a murderous traitor. She is. I role-play has as evil, remember.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2018 22:28:16 GMT
You're Tabris is a murderous traitor. She is. I role-play has as evil, remember. I've never done such things.. because my people always nice and kind.. Besides for my Morrigan romancer. He killed Connor.
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Post by akiza on Apr 6, 2018 1:31:14 GMT
Is not evil and is not selfish either,it's just being pragmatic to be better prepared to defeat the blight. Er.....I'm obviously joking, but sadly I know there are people out there that truly thinks this way.
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Post by pavellaning on Apr 6, 2018 2:51:53 GMT
Is not evil and is not selfish either,it's just being pragmatic to be better prepared to defeat the blight. Er.....I'm obviously joking, but sadly I know there are people out there that truly thinks this way. That is how my Tabris saw it. She sees herself as being pragmatic and diplomatic. As well, she wishes to avoid bloodshed and had no desire to fight Caladrius so she let him take her father and other elves to the Imperium. As well, she didn't mention Loghain's involvement at the Landsmeet and recruited him.
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Apr 6, 2018 18:22:58 GMT
I can't find adequate reasons for wanting to kill a parent in favor of a trivial reward promised by a man that was defeated and thus had little strenght to actually perform any valuable spell.Or are we gonna seriously belive that +1 constituiton makes that much of a difference? It isn't more valuable than receiving the help of the alienage elves at the end of the game,since +10 warriors for the end game is better than +1 constitution.
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Post by pavellaning on Apr 6, 2018 21:09:22 GMT
I can't find adequate reasons for wanting to kill a parent in favor of a trivial reward promised by a man that was defeated and thus had little strenght to actually perform any valuable spell.Or are we gonna seriously belive that +1 constituiton makes that much of a difference? It isn't more valuable than receiving the help of the alienage elves at the end of the game,since +10 warriors for the end game is better than +1 constitution. I wasn't referring to Caladrius offer to sacrifice the elves in return for 1+ constitution but his offer to give the Warden the documents framing Loghain in return for 100 sovereigns.
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Post by Curious Crow on Apr 7, 2018 11:39:03 GMT
I can't find adequate reasons for wanting to kill a parent in favor of a trivial reward promised by a man that was defeated and thus had little strenght to actually perform any valuable spell.Or are we gonna seriously belive that +1 constituiton makes that much of a difference? It isn't more valuable than receiving the help of the alienage elves at the end of the game,since +10 warriors for the end game is better than +1 constitution. I wasn't referring to Caladrius offer to sacrifice the elves in return for 1+ constitution but his offer to give the Warden the documents framing Loghain in return for 100 sovereigns. Whoa whoa whoa. You paid 100 sovereigns for a document, that you didn't even use? Also man have I gotten this quest wrong in the past. I thought it was a choice of threes. Documents, gold or slaves. So I'll have to change my answer to nope, none of my wardens would pay 100 sovs for something they could pry out of his cold, dead hands. A constitution point on the other hand...
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Post by doflamingodonquijote on Apr 7, 2018 13:30:18 GMT
I wasn't referring to Caladrius offer to sacrifice the elves in return for 1+ constitution but his offer to give the Warden the documents framing Loghain in return for 100 sovereigns. Whoa whoa whoa. You paid 100 sovereigns for a document, that you didn't even use? Also man have I gotten this quest wrong in the past. I thought it was a choice of threes. Documents, gold or slaves. So I'll have to change my answer to nope, none of my wardens would pay 100 sovs for something they could pry out of his cold, dead hands. A constitution point on the other hand... I remember there were different options to take the documents that didn't involve paying him anything,It's only Morrigan who believe was a fair deal to give him that much money.The constitution point is a very trivial reward compared to the warriors the elves have to offer,it's obvious was just a way for Caladrius to try to survive,but I would have appreciated more if he had to offer the money he brought from Tevinter.
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Post by Curious Crow on Apr 7, 2018 14:10:51 GMT
I remember there were different options to take the documents that didn't involve paying him anything,It's only Morrigan who believe was a fair deal to give him that much money.The constitution point is a very trivial reward compared to the warriors the elves have to offer,it's obvious was just a way for Caladrius to try to survive,but I would have appreciated more if he had to offer the money he brought from Tevinter. The warriors you're talking about, is it the ones with Shianni at the gates during the final battle? Loaded up my Tildren save and somehow he managed to persuade them to fight for him (without a persuasion check) and it seemed to be as many elves fighting for him as there were in a video by some other player. And that player neither left Shianni with Vaughan nor sacrificed the elves. But then again, his save was pretty funky with dad coming back alive and stuff. Also loaded up the Caldrius option for fun and could convince him to give the letter for free, but Cal got to keep all the other stuff. But that was as far as Tildren could negotiate, since he can't intimidate his way out of a paper bag. (He just cuts himself out). But again, there was some funky business going on in that game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 14:39:18 GMT
I just did this for the first time, but with a human mage. Part of the RP was that he was an elf-racist so it made it an easier choice, plus he was very pragmatic and wanted the documents. Doing it as an elf is a whole new level of evil...I'm impressed.
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Post by oyabun on Apr 8, 2018 11:52:11 GMT
These evil options should have had consequences in the game,like the warden not being able to accuse Loghain of slavery because they themselves became guilty of the same crime,and maybe having some companions in the party(Zevran,Wynne, Leliana or Shale)who would damage the Warden at the Landsmeet by telling them what they did.Instead as usual the crimes of the player character are never addressed in the game,only Loghain......
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Post by ergates on Apr 13, 2018 12:05:33 GMT
"I have a counter offer" "Interesting" "I kill you and take everything for free" "UUugh, a comedian......" That's the only 'deal' that works for me
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