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Post by FireAndBlood on Oct 7, 2016 20:08:31 GMT
Or the more likely theory that these are the starter human companions we get in every Mas Effect game.
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Post by bshep on Oct 7, 2016 22:20:05 GMT
Suporting facts
a- Only a Pathfinder can be the protagonist b- Only one sibling is The Pathfinder c- Dad and other sibling are "out there" in the cluster d- Older male is NOT wearing a Pathfinder suit e- young female IS wearing a Pathfinder suit f- Conveniently, The Pathfinder mentions the possibility that the displayed systems contain other Vaults.
a- Not confirmed anywhere. b- Also not confirmed anywhere. c- That doesn't mean they are part of the Tempest crew or that they receive orders from the player protagonist. d and e- armor possibily can be changed like in all other mass effect games. So it doesn't mean much. f- How you go from that to saying the male protagonist send his dad and sister on a mission? O_o Also as stated above by fireandblood. Or the more likely theory that these are the starter human companions we get in every Mas Effect game. Now that is a more likely hypothesis.
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Post by zlojeb on Oct 8, 2016 22:32:25 GMT
Pretty sure that Dad, being the unplayable character (I guess this is confirmed, we're either brother or sister Ryder, or if there are more playable characters doubt we can switch between son/daughter and dad in a single scene/mission) will always have some N7 insignia on his armor. Sure Shepard didn't, nor he followed the color scheme since we could colour it whatever in ME2 and ME3 and wear whatever in ME1.
Additionally, even if he is on the squad, I doubt any of the armours available would have an A insignia and no N7 insignias.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 10, 2016 19:04:39 GMT
Or the more likely theory that these are the starter human companions we get in every Mas Effect game. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ No doubt, that is quite possible. However, I still can't understand the "old guy's" outfit. Two of them are in combat gear while he is not.
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Post by shechinah on Oct 10, 2016 19:07:44 GMT
Or the more likely theory that these are the starter human companions we get in every Mas Effect game. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ No doubt, that is quite possible. However, I still can't understand the "old guy's" outfit. Two of them are in combat gear while he is not.
"Old guy"?
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 10, 2016 19:14:55 GMT
Suporting facts
a- Only a Pathfinder can be the protagonist b- Only one sibling is The Pathfinder c- Dad and other sibling are "out there" in the cluster d- Older male is NOT wearing a Pathfinder suit e- young female IS wearing a Pathfinder suit f- Conveniently, The Pathfinder mentions the possibility that the displayed systems contain other Vaults.
a- Not confirmed anywhere. b- Also not confirmed anywhere. c- That doesn't mean they are part of the Tempest crew or that they receive orders from the player protagonist. d and e- armor possibily can be changed like in all other mass effect games. So it doesn't mean much. f- How you go from that to saying the male protagonist send his dad and sister on a mission? O_o ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ a- review Flynn's interview b- only one sibling is the protag, ergo a Pathfinder. The other sibling is really not "in the picture". c- ??? d-e Don't quite agree... debatable point, I guess f- It's a theory and makes sense. We do see DAD fighting the Khet, after all.
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Post by Monk on Oct 10, 2016 21:06:01 GMT
a- Not confirmed anywhere. b- Also not confirmed anywhere. c- That doesn't mean they are part of the Tempest crew or that they receive orders from the player protagonist. d and e- armor possibily can be changed like in all other mass effect games. So it doesn't mean much. f- How you go from that to saying the male protagonist send his dad and sister on a mission? O_o ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ a- review Flynn's interview b- only one sibling is the protag, ergo a Pathfinder. The other sibling is really not "in the picture". c- ??? d-e Don't quite agree... debatable point, I guess f- It's a theory and makes sense. We do see DAD fighting the Khet, after all.
No doubt, that is quite possible. However, I still can't understand the "old guy's" outfit. Two of them are in combat gear while he is not. You know, there are a couple possiblities with the bigger guy's outfit (going with bigger since he's more built, obviously, than Ryder and has no correlation with age. They all could be the same approximate age). He could be an engineer, which uses lighter armor. I remember Cerberus' engineers having pretty light armor as well. He also could be a biotic, which doesn't necessarily need heavier armor. And also, while the armor seems to be from a different time, due to the different insignia, this simply might be due to a design oversight that they haven't fixed yet (the footage was from an alpha build, after all). Though, this might indicate that indeed the female is the other Ryder, the lack of talking makes this difficult to discern properly.
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Post by FireAndBlood on Oct 10, 2016 21:22:31 GMT
Or the more likely theory that these are the starter human companions we get in every Mas Effect game. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ No doubt, that is quite possible. However, I still can't understand the "old guy's" outfit. Two of them are in combat gear while he is not.
What makes you think he is old? Also referring to whatever the female character is wearing as "combat armor" is very generous.
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Post by goishen on Oct 10, 2016 21:47:16 GMT
What BioFan refers to as "dad" pants. I will say that they are very different from what Ryder and the female are wearing, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that they've just not upgraded him to lower extremity armor yet. If that's a thing.
I'm seeing it playing out in two different scenarios. We have a suit of armor that we put on and that lasts us until we can find another suit of armor. This includes, arms, legs, torso, and helmet. Or, we have to make our own armor (via DAI) and that precludes arms, legs, and helm (if we're talking about the torso).
Given that we're traveling to an entirely new galaxy and there aren't gonna be many aliens that look like us, plus Occam's Razor, I'm gonna have to go with the second. Exploration can breed grinding. Let's hope this one doesn't.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Oct 10, 2016 21:59:39 GMT
Sorry too lazy to read all posts to see if mentioned. But if you bring the picture of all three bsn.boards.net/attachment/download/334 you can see the woman's face and part of the guy's, through their visors. Also, I'm using a PS4 which I can zoom in with, that's how I found out.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 10, 2016 22:02:53 GMT
What BioFan refers to as "dad" pants. I will say that they are very different from what Ryder and the female are wearing, but it's not outside the realm of possibility that they've just not upgraded him to lower extremity armor yet. If that's a thing. I'm seeing it playing out in two different scenarios. We have a suit of armor that we put on and that lasts us until we can find another suit of armor. This includes, arms, legs, torso, and helmet. Or, we have to make our own armor (via DAI) and that precludes arms, legs, and helm (if we're talking about the torso). Given that we're traveling to an entirely new galaxy and there aren't gonna be many aliens that look like us, plus Occam's Razor, I'm gonna have to go with the second. Exploration can breed grinding. Let's hope this one doesn't. I'm pretty sure Bioware confirmed a while ago that there will be a lot of armor customization. It works by there being an underarmor suit, which will also be the/a casual outfit option and can be customized as well, and then you equip outer armor to it. To use a comparison, it's like how the Mjolnir armor system in Halo works. When off duty, the Spartans wear the underarmor and when they are on duty the outer armor is attached.
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Post by The Elder King on Oct 10, 2016 23:00:30 GMT
Or the more likely theory that these are the starter human companions we get in every Mas Effect game. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ No doubt, that is quite possible. However, I still can't understand the "old guy's" outfit. Two of them are in combat gear while he is not.
The armours of the companions in the tech demo doesn't rapresent the armours they'll have in the game. They give a kind of generic look on purpose.
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Post by Jaal Ama Darav (Kierro) on Oct 10, 2016 23:22:14 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ No doubt, that is quite possible. However, I still can't understand the "old guy's" outfit. Two of them are in combat gear while he is not.
The armours of the companions in the tech demo doesn't rapresent the armours they'll have in the game. They give a kind of generic look on purpose. Has it been confirmed or denied, that we can put armor on companions like ME1?
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Post by The Elder King on Oct 10, 2016 23:43:55 GMT
The armours of the companions in the tech demo doesn't rapresent the armours they'll have in the game. They give a kind of generic look on purpose. Has it been confirmed or denied, that we can put armor on companions like ME1? They haven't talked yet about armour customization for squadmates. All I know is that the tech demo as some features cut off (like squadmates walking with you, orthe Remnants not attacking when you got too close), as well as the two squadmates being in a generic armour.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 11, 2016 2:48:43 GMT
I'm pretty sure Bioware confirmed a while ago that there will be a lot of armor customization. It works by there being an underarmor suit, which will also be the/a casual outfit option and can be customized as well, and then you equip outer armor to it. To use a comparison, it's like how the Mjolnir armor system in Halo works. When off duty, the Spartans wear the underarmor and when they are on duty the outer armor is attached. Wait, really? Was this confirmed? Because that might make for either some pretty odd casual-wear, or pretty odd undersuits, take your pick. I mean, think of the default casual appearance for Shep in any game. It doesn't really seem like something you'd stick armour plates on. Conversely, it would seem odd to me to have to roam around the ship in a skintight undersuit at all times. And I like to roll with a hoodie. Does this mean we'll get no hoodies, or combat hoodies?
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Post by KirkyX on Oct 11, 2016 3:48:01 GMT
I'm pretty sure Bioware confirmed a while ago that there will be a lot of armor customization. It works by there being an underarmor suit, which will also be the/a casual outfit option and can be customized as well, and then you equip outer armor to it. To use a comparison, it's like how the Mjolnir armor system in Halo works. When off duty, the Spartans wear the underarmor and when they are on duty the outer armor is attached. Wait, really? Was this confirmed? Because that might make for either some pretty odd casual-wear, or pretty odd undersuits, take your pick. I mean, think of the default casual appearance for Shep in any game. It doesn't really seem like something you'd stick armour plates on. Conversely, it would seem odd to me to have to roam around the ship in a skintight undersuit at all times. And I like to roll with a hoodie. Does this mean we'll get no hoodies, or combat hoodies? I feel like I remember hearing about the undersuit thing somewhere before, too... Hmm. I think I could rock the Asuka 'hoodie/jacket over the top' look, at least for a while... But it'd definitely get a little samey if every outfit had to incorporate the suit somehow, even if you could change bits of it. I guess the Spartan IVs did wear combat trousers over theirs: So that's another option? I'm still holding out hope that we'll get to actually buy clothes in shops this time around, like we've always been able to with armour--so for the sake of variety, I'd definitely prefer it if we could skip the undersuit, at least under some circumstances. Maybe we're stuck with it - and whatever changes we can make to it/stuff we can put over the top of it - while on Tempest, but when we're on shore leave/off-duty in a place we can reasonably expect to be safe - a Citadel equivalent - we can wear more casual clothes? (Yeah, probably overthinking the clothing system a whole bunch... But I do love playing dress up with my RPG protags.)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 11, 2016 4:42:12 GMT
I'm pretty sure Bioware confirmed a while ago that there will be a lot of armor customization. It works by there being an underarmor suit, which will also be the/a casual outfit option and can be customized as well, and then you equip outer armor to it. To use a comparison, it's like how the Mjolnir armor system in Halo works. When off duty, the Spartans wear the underarmor and when they are on duty the outer armor is attached. Wait, really? Was this confirmed? Because that might make for either some pretty odd casual-wear, or pretty odd undersuits, take your pick. I mean, think of the default casual appearance for Shep in any game. It doesn't really seem like something you'd stick armour plates on. Conversely, it would seem odd to me to have to roam around the ship in a skintight undersuit at all times. And I like to roll with a hoodie. Does this mean we'll get no hoodies, or combat hoodies? As I said, the idea is for that to be a casual clothes option, not the only one. At the same thing, Comic-Con 2014 I believe, they also said they were looking into other casual clothing ideas. The undersuit we have already seen though, at least I'd put money on that being it:
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Post by KirkyX on Oct 11, 2016 14:40:31 GMT
Wait, really? Was this confirmed? Because that might make for either some pretty odd casual-wear, or pretty odd undersuits, take your pick. I mean, think of the default casual appearance for Shep in any game. It doesn't really seem like something you'd stick armour plates on. Conversely, it would seem odd to me to have to roam around the ship in a skintight undersuit at all times. And I like to roll with a hoodie. Does this mean we'll get no hoodies, or combat hoodies? As I said, the idea is for that to be a casual clothes option, not the only one. At the same thing, Comic-Con 2014 I believe, they also said they were looking into other casual clothing ideas. The undersuit we have already seen though, at least I'd put money on that being it: Is this the Comic Con panel you mean? I'd completely forgotten about it. They don't explicitly confirm that the undersuit's going to be part of/an option for our casual clothes, but it would make sense. Most of the talk seems to revolve around how their philosophy for armour customisation in Andromeda is based on the idea of a flexible undersuit, onto which the player can attach a variety of different pieces--from - presumably - whole chest plates to little bandoliers and such.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 13, 2016 21:34:07 GMT
As I said, the idea is for that to be a casual clothes option, not the only one. At the same thing, Comic-Con 2014 I believe, they also said they were looking into other casual clothing ideas. The undersuit we have already seen though, at least I'd put money on that being it: Is this the Comic Con panel you mean? I'd completely forgotten about it. They don't explicitly confirm that the undersuit's going to be part of/an option for our casual clothes, but it would make sense. Most of the talk seems to revolve around how their philosophy for armour customisation in Andromeda is based on the idea of a flexible undersuit, onto which the player can attach a variety of different pieces--from - presumably - whole chest plates to little bandoliers and such. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ That might be fine for non toxic environments. However, walking on a moon with an undersuit and slapped on armour plates is a no-no. I do hope the devs/writers designed an appropriate space suit for those occasions you need one.
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Post by KirkyX on Oct 14, 2016 16:55:00 GMT
Is this the Comic Con panel you mean? I'd completely forgotten about it. They don't explicitly confirm that the undersuit's going to be part of/an option for our casual clothes, but it would make sense. Most of the talk seems to revolve around how their philosophy for armour customisation in Andromeda is based on the idea of a flexible undersuit, onto which the player can attach a variety of different pieces--from - presumably - whole chest plates to little bandoliers and such. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ That might be fine for non toxic environments. However, walking on a moon with an undersuit and slapped on armour plates is a no-no. I do hope the devs/writers designed an appropriate space suit for those occasions you need one.
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I mean, there's functionally no difference between an undersuit with attached armour plates that we can swap around, and the gear we've always worn in Mass Effect - which was clearly made up of an undersuit with attached armour plates - and that's always been deemed sufficient for use in a vacuum.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 14, 2016 17:23:18 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ That might be fine for non toxic environments. However, walking on a moon with an undersuit and slapped on armour plates is a no-no. I do hope the devs/writers designed an appropriate space suit for those occasions you need one.
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I mean, there's functionally no difference between an undersuit with attached armour plates that we can swap around, and the gear we've always worn in Mass Effect - which was clearly made up of an undersuit with attached armour plates - and that's always been deemed sufficient for use in a vacuum. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Hmpf! Clearly Bio has no concept of proper decorum.... But, I understand. Sigh... too bad really. Sometimes it's the little things that count.
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Post by The Elder King on Oct 14, 2016 17:49:06 GMT
Since ME2 characters could walk wherever they want with a breather mask instead of an helmet and clothes. It's not exactly a news. As long as I'll have the option to cover every characters in propert armours and helmets I'll be happy.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 17, 2016 19:47:19 GMT
No doubt, that is quite possible. However, I still can't understand the "old guy's" outfit. Two of them are in combat gear while he is not. You know, there are a couple possiblities with the bigger guy's outfit (going with bigger since he's more built, obviously, than Ryder and has no correlation with age. They all could be the same approximate age). He could be an engineer, which uses lighter armor. I remember Cerberus' engineers having pretty light armor as well. He also could be a biotic, which doesn't necessarily need heavier armor. And also, while the armor seems to be from a different time, due to the different insignia, this simply might be due to a design oversight that they haven't fixed yet (the footage was from an alpha build, after all). Though, this might indicate that indeed the female is the other Ryder, the lack of talking makes this difficult to discern properly. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Fine, bigger then and as someone mentioned up thread "starting companions".
No one explained the reason(s) for Ryder's squad mates for hiding their their faces with a helmet. Let's face it. Do we really care what the male human face will look like? Unless, it's dad Ryder?.. fine I'll allow for a ME1-3 character to show up. But, would that really break Bio's marketing push to show that at Sony's PS4 event?
On the assumption that it's one of the trilogy characters, who is it more likely to be?
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Post by Heimdall on Oct 17, 2016 21:45:39 GMT
You know, there are a couple possiblities with the bigger guy's outfit (going with bigger since he's more built, obviously, than Ryder and has no correlation with age. They all could be the same approximate age). He could be an engineer, which uses lighter armor. I remember Cerberus' engineers having pretty light armor as well. He also could be a biotic, which doesn't necessarily need heavier armor. And also, while the armor seems to be from a different time, due to the different insignia, this simply might be due to a design oversight that they haven't fixed yet (the footage was from an alpha build, after all). Though, this might indicate that indeed the female is the other Ryder, the lack of talking makes this difficult to discern properly. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Fine, bigger then and as someone mentioned up thread "starting companions".
No one explained the reason(s) for Ryder's squad mates for hiding their their faces with a helmet. Let's face it. Do we really care what the male human face will look like? Unless, it's dad Ryder?.. fine I'll allow for a ME1-3 character to show up. But, would that really break Bio's marketing push to show that at Sony's PS4 event?
On the assumption that it's one of the trilogy characters, who is it more likely to be?
I imagine it's more to keep us guessing about squad mates than anything else.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 17, 2016 22:05:27 GMT
I actually like this theory given the name pathfinder. Its a nice companion to my theory and might actually be more plausible given the name...Pathfinder.
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