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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 1, 2018 21:53:21 GMT
So I was watching a "Mass Effect 3 game-movie" on youtube recently, and the player chose "Synthesis" at the end. That made me think. I had never seen the 'green' or Synthesis ending before because I have always chosen "Destroy"....(because isn't that the goal of Shepard from the very beginning? Destroy the Reapers. They're a threat bent on exterminating all life...in order to survive they need to be destroyed). And in the context of only ME to ME 3, that makes total sense (plus all NPCs and even Shepard knew that the War was going to be a 'one way trip' so to speak, so if characters died at the end....they were content with that; just look at Mordin).
But now that Andromeda is out (and I assume that many of us have played it)...It starts during the course of ME 2, so the Reaper War is still raging....But then jump 600+ years into the future (and you now have an AI implanted into your nervous system, who has become a part of you) Gee...that sounds an awful lot like the Synthesis ending of ME 3 when/where synthetic technology and artificial intelligence/consciousness had been melded into all forms of life and together they lived peacefully and strove to do great things.
I dunno...Seeing the Synthesis ending and knowing the events and ties of Andromeda with SAM, I'm now starting to think/feel that the 'green' ending is the most fitting. (And a positive side to that would be that all the characters have potential to be alive...if they weren't killed off for other plot purposes)...EDI is alive, and now she is not alone. At first, I was against the green ending because I felt that with Shepard making that choice, he/she was forcing something upon his/her friends that maybe they wouldn't want (to be suddenly fused with AI without they're knowledge or consent...They're fighting, or maybe trying to escape....And then suddenly, they find there's something different about them. They have Synthetic tech throughout their bodies.....Maybe that's not what they would've wanted. But as I said, given the events of Andromeda (especially the advancements of SAM)....having a AI/Computer or otherwise synthetic tech in your body is already happening-- and it works! And it's a highly positive thing!
I dunno....I just had this thought ever since last night when I finally saw the 'green ending' and everyone was alive and happy and prospering...That seemed to be the happiest ending, and given the plot, and elements of Andromeda...the most fitting.
Thoughts?
PS: A few weeks ago I posted an observation/question about Jack and her tattoos, found in her designated thread "Into the Bad Girl"....I would appreciate if anyone had any insights and could post a response.
Thanks!
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2018 22:28:18 GMT
I don't think the events in Andromeda have any bearing on which ending of ME3 is most fitting. Ryder Sr. was developing his AI without the approval of pretty much every organization in the galaxy except the Andromeda Initiative, who felt they needed one in order to ensure being able to "make sense" of whatever technologies they found in Andromeda.
I've always felt that every ending to ME3 has it's merits and it's disadvantages. What ending suits you best should really just be up to you.
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Post by themikefest on May 1, 2018 22:49:37 GMT
The green is not a fitting ending.
In ME2, there is no reaper war since the reapers haven't arrived and no one knows when they will arrive. The only thing that is going on in ME2 is stopping the collectors. MEA takes place far into the future away from anything that happens in ME3.
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Post by Energizer Bunny 211 on May 1, 2018 23:35:46 GMT
Thanks to both of you for your replies. To Mike: You're right, of course, saying that in ME2 the Reapers hadn't arrived yet, that is true...and alluding to the opposite was an oversight on my part... I had a train of thought in mind with that comment, but it wasn't expressed properly. My apologies for any confusion. ANd you're also right in saying that Andromeda is so far into the future it is removed from anything that happens in the OT, which I agree with and also leaned towards in my post. You're right, of course...These were just initial thoughts I had having just seen the 'green' ending for the first time last night.
To UpUpAgain....You, too, are correct with your comment/point about Alec Ryder. And, I share your sentiment that which ever ending a player chooses should be up to him/her, and should 'fit' what they think or how they have played the game out. What ending best suits how each of us has played out the story? That is what really matters, and it can be different things for different players with different meanings and impacts upon each of us.
Thank you both again for your replies.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 2, 2018 2:58:21 GMT
I don't like Synthesis. The Reapers make genocide look like look like a hit and run. They take murder to a degree beyond our comprehension. I tried doing the math once but the number of deaths is so high that I can't really wrap my head around it. So, no, they need to be destroyed. As for MEA, I don't think it's the same. SAM more evokes the zha'til than Synthesis. If you're rusty on minor, dead alien races, here's what their entry says: "The zha'til were a synthetic race that existed at 50,000 years ago. They were created by a race known as the zha who implanted the zha'til within themselves to become symbiotic with AI technology. They were made to enhance the zha's abilities in order to survive when their homeworld became inhospitable. After the Reapers arrived for the Cycle of Harvest, they subjugated the zha'til, corrupting them to seize control of the bodies of their masters turning them into slaves for the Reapers. The Reapers indirectly caused the Metacon War that erupted between the zha'til and the Prothean Empire to ensure that synthetics would always turn upon their masters. Thus giving a casus belli for their so-called harvests. With no other recourse, the Protheans had to send the star of the zha's home system into supernova, destroying the zha'til entirely." SourceIncidentally, the quarians were also on that road with the geth if peace was made between them. If choosing Control it's still a possibility. Side note: Notice that synthetics turning against their creators is often because of the Reapers? It was true with the geth. Just can't trust those monsters. Who knows what kind of peace could exist if not for the Reapers intervening?
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Post by AnDromedary on May 2, 2018 16:27:45 GMT
One could even make the argument that Andromeda makes the Synthesis ending less likely. In the synthesis ending, the MW races are in a pretty good place after the reaper war. Destruction is pretty minimal, there is a lasting peace and everyone shares technology and knowladge. One could think that people in such a good position might be inclined to undertake a second Andromeda Initiative. The original Initiative used basically the standard organic FTL drives that let you go with about 12 light years/day (which pretty much adds up with a ~600 year voyage to Andromeda). The synthesis people should have access to reaper FTL tech though, which, according to the ME3 codex, is estimated to grant about double the speed. So if they were to start an Andromeda Initiative 2.0, they should only need about 300 years to get there. Since we already know that the Helios cluster is the the most promising region in Andromeda to go (and given that an expedition was already on the way there), the Helios cluster would also be the most logical place to go for another Andromeda expedition. So in 300 years after the ME3 ending, apparently they never tried to follow up or investigate Andromeda, despite all the knowladge and resources they have now (or if they did, it didn't work). So what are they doing over there? One doesn't have to make that argument ... but one could*. *) if one wanted to bait people.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2018 22:54:25 GMT
Reaper synthesis is kind of like Kett exaltation.
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Post by dmc1001 on May 3, 2018 3:10:00 GMT
Reaper synthesis is kind of like Kett exaltation. Indeed. And with the Reapers still around there's nothing stopping them from full on indoctrination.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2018 4:28:38 GMT
I wonder what an already exalted species infused with Reaper tech would look like?
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