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Post by dmc1001 on May 9, 2018 3:23:15 GMT
This was something I've thought about for some time. Maybe the subject was broached in another thread at some point but I'm going to sift through the hate to find it.
Why are there no biotics in the Heleus Cluster? We know there's eezo (which is what creates biotics) and plenty of dark matter around (which, according to the wiki, allows them to "generate and manipulate dark energy). With both of these things around you'd think that biotics would be there in abundance but the only ones we see came from the MW.
One possible idea, which I've heard said, is that the Scourge is the follow up to whatever might have been planned for ME2 but then dropped. The idea I'd heard was that biotic was dangerous to the galaxy (universe?) at large and that was the reason for Reaper harvests. If so, is it possible that biotics unchecked by Reapers caused a disaster? That could have led to the deaths of the biotics, either with intention or as a result of their actions.
This is all conjecture with no real basis from anything in the game, but I'm curious to hear what others think.
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Post by ahglock on May 9, 2018 3:53:51 GMT
Some races in the MW show no biotic potential. Depending on what they were engineered for maybe the Angara wouldn't have it. like if they were a slave race it might have been engineered out as it could be a weapon. Or perhaps there photsynthesis/electric control stuff is incompatible. I don't remember if the Kett were aware of biotics at all prior to the AI showing up. Been a while since I read the data pads on exhaltation. They might have biotics in other clusters.
But yes, I had wondered this as well and tried to come up with excuses. Though it could simply just be Andromeda biology is different enough.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 5:21:24 GMT
One thought I've had is that we would have been encountering kett with biotics in a sequel. From Archon's ship, we get the impression that he was intrigued by the Asari biotics and, at the end of the game, he does get a whole lot of data on the Ryder twin's implant... the seem "primed" to make some discoveries about it.
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Post by sageoflife on May 9, 2018 7:13:54 GMT
Maybe the Jardaan didn't want the angara to have biotics?
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Post by sil on May 9, 2018 9:21:31 GMT
It's likely they just haven't been exposed to leaked eezo emission accidents like the ones that caused human biotics to emerge. Afterall, the Angara have only existed in their present civilisation for a few hundred years. It's possible they avoided it, or such accidents happened on undiscovered colony worlds. |
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Post by guanxi on May 9, 2018 17:38:03 GMT
Biotics are being used too cheaply already, they're supposed to be incredibly rare and even with potential it takes serious dedication for the non Asari, Asari being the only known species in either galaxy besides probably Protheans who don't require cybernetic implants.
To me I always thought that Angara should have been the bio-electrical (tech) counterpoint to the Asari and not require tools like omni-tools to generate electrical energy (Overload). The most sensitive Angara being capable of generating the bio-electrical equivalent of Annihilation Field. Although I wish Andromedean races had their own mystical space magic personally, they are too much like us for comfort.
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2018 18:21:09 GMT
Biotics are being used too cheaply already, they're supposed to be incredibly rare and even with potential it takes serious dedication for the non Asari, Asari being the only known species in either galaxy besides probably Protheans who don't require cybernetic implants. To me I always thought that Angara should have been the bio-electrical (tech) counterpoint to the Asari and not require tools like omni-tools to generate electrical energy (Overload). The most sensitive Angara being capable of generating the bio-electrical equivalent of Annihilation Field. Although I wish Andromedean races had their own mystical space magic personally, they are too much like us for comfort. Too much like us? Don’t see that at all. |
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Post by guanxi on May 9, 2018 18:31:49 GMT
Biotics are being used too cheaply already, they're supposed to be incredibly rare and even with potential it takes serious dedication for the non Asari, Asari being the only known species in either galaxy besides probably Protheans who don't require cybernetic implants. To me I always thought that Angara should have been the bio-electrical (tech) counterpoint to the Asari and not require tools like omni-tools to generate electrical energy (Overload). The most sensitive Angara being capable of generating the bio-electrical equivalent of Annihilation Field. Although I wish Andromedean races had their own mystical space magic personally, they are too much like us for comfort. Too much like us? Don’t see that at all. In the sense that they're all bipedal humanoids who shoot guns, wear garments &, Jewellery, their city architecture looks like a human shopping mall, they have a recognizable political system, hold religious views, have big families and are in touch with their feelings. Culturally they're practically Australians in Halloween masks minus the dog legs, Not exactly the aliens I was expecting or hoping for in honesty. I'd love to meet that one bioware guy, the "it's not alien enough, give it some dog legs" guy they must have over there. |
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2018 19:01:48 GMT
Too much like us? Don’t see that at all. In the sense that they're all bipedal humanoids who shoot guns, wear garments &, Jewellery, their city architecture looks like a human shopping mall, they have a recognisable political system, hold religious views, have big families and are in touch with their feelings. Culturally they're practically Australians in Halloween masks minus the dog legs, Not exactly the aliens I was expecting or hoping for in honesty. Um going by that standard the only race that would be different would be the Salarians and Krogan. |
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Post by KaiserShep on May 9, 2018 19:03:44 GMT
Planet of hats was always a Mass Effect thing, so I wouldn't have really expected Andromeda to be much different. Whatever rules of evolution that make the most advanced species in the Milky Way largely bipedal humanoids should apply to this galaxy too, so it really just comes down to creating a more alien culture. The geth were the most alien thing in the MW. Even the rachni were fairly familiar as being like your run of the mill hive species.
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Post by guanxi on May 9, 2018 19:23:14 GMT
In the sense that they're all bipedal humanoids who shoot guns, wear garments &, Jewellery, their city architecture looks like a human shopping mall, they have a recognisable political system, hold religious views, have big families and are in touch with their feelings. Culturally they're practically Australians in Halloween masks minus the dog legs, Not exactly the aliens I was expecting or hoping for in honesty. Um going by that standard the only race that would be different would be the Salarians and Krogan. The milky way species to some extent all represent different extremes of human cultures, and earth's organisms familiar yet distinct and plausible. Believable in the sense that you can get a sense of how the characteristics of these races helped them survive and prosper and how that affected their cultures. Angara don't really have anything unique I can really point to as different from our civilization or any other Milky Way race. I know we don't know the whole story regarding the Angara and their origin but as it stands they are probably the least interesting, least alien, least developed species so far besides the Kett who are practically a non entity. |
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Post by griffith82 on May 9, 2018 19:30:06 GMT
Um going by that standard the only race that would be different would be the Salarians and Krogan. The milky way species to some extent all represent different extremes of human cultures, and earth's organisms familiar yet distinct and plausible. Believable in the sense that you can get a sense of how the characteristics of these races helped them survive and prosper and how that affected their cultures. Angara don't really have anything unique I can really point to as different from our civilization or any other Milky Way race. I know we don't know the whole story regarding the Angara and their origin but as it stands they are probably the least interesting, least alien, least developed species so far besides the Kett who are practically a non entity. I see where you’re coming from. I found them interesting but I do see your POV. |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2018 21:02:28 GMT
Um going by that standard the only race that would be different would be the Salarians and Krogan. The milky way species to some extent all represent different extremes of human cultures, and earth's organisms familiar yet distinct and plausible. Believable in the sense that you can get a sense of how the characteristics of these races helped them survive and prosper and how that affected their cultures. Angara don't really have anything unique I can really point to as different from our civilization or any other Milky Way race. I know we don't know the whole story regarding the Angara and their origin but as it stands they are probably the least interesting, least alien, least developed species so far besides the Kett who are practically a non entity. Sure they do, at least as much as any of the others. They wear their emotions front and center and talk about them freely. They have extensive families, and it sounds to me like they might sort of adopt extended family members even if they have no blood or marriage ties. Also, there's the bioelectric thing. |
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Post by Son of Dorn on May 9, 2018 21:22:17 GMT
Biotics are nothing next to the power of the Dark Side!😁
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