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Post by eriador117 on May 30, 2018 12:01:10 GMT
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 30, 2018 12:29:51 GMT
I'd rather have a nug-breeding simulator hosted by Leliana.
[edit] I don't see the Mortalitasi being a faction, though. It's a magic discipline, and is also part of the Nevarran faith. What sort of goals would they have that would make them viable as a faction?
Of course, since Dorian is a necromancer, the implications for him in the game are interesting.
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Post by rras1994 on May 30, 2018 12:44:47 GMT
I'd rather have a nug-breeding simulator hosted by Leliana.
[edit] I don't see the Mortalitasi being a faction, though. It's a magic discipline, and is also part of the Nevarran faith. What sort of goals would they have that would make them viable as a faction?
Of course, since Dorian is a necromancer, the implications for him in the game are interesting.
They are a faction though, as they have a massive influence in Nevarra: (from the wiki) As Markus Pentaghast is likely to die soon, and there's two main families in Nevarra vying for the throne, as well as both Orlais and Tevinter trying to get in for power, I could see the Mortalitasi being an important faction - as well as it seems like they are up to something and may have knowledge that others don't.
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Post by Reznore on May 30, 2018 12:51:57 GMT
Yeah I'd say the Mortalitasi are the super goth faction too. Watching and worshipping the dead, and caring mostly about the dead and building them places...
The mortalitasi are a mage faction of Nevarra if memory serve, there are one of the rare mages faction who had power ( as in some direct political power in their own country) in Southern Thedas. At least before the breach.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on May 30, 2018 12:57:59 GMT
Mortalitasi was my first thought upon reading it too. They're a religious faction with alot of political power so they could potentially have some plot going down in Tevinter if we don't visit nevarra itself. Or since he's doing background/lore perhaps we just interact with an individual Mortalitasi (an actual one from nevarra with the beliefs, not just someone with necromancer talents), a companion perhaps? Who needed their faction fleshed out to be fully written?
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Post by vertigomez on May 30, 2018 13:35:57 GMT
Tevinter, Mortalitasi, Legion of the Dead... I'm good with any and all of the above.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2018 14:56:17 GMT
This is very exciting news! Chauncey loves to fight mostly dead things and their supporters.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 30, 2018 20:43:32 GMT
It could still be the Kal-Sharok dwarves. There is definitely meant to be something odd about them. They are shorter and paler then Orzammar dwarves, give those who trade with them sinister vibes and very protective of their privacy. So they could have developed a death cult mentality that enabled them to survive in isolation.
However, I agree that the Mortalitasi do sound a more obvious fit. The order was originally founded by a Tevinter mage working with the first King Casper Pentaghast so it wouldn't be surprising for them to have strong links with Tevinter and also possibly access to ancient lore in their archives that was forgotten or erased in Tevinter proper. Also, I do wonder if the skills of the Necromancers were originally taught to them by followers of Falon'Din, elven god of the dead.
Which brings to mind another faction that could be a possible fit; the elves of the Tirashan with their blood red vallaslin and offering up of their opponents as a sacrifice to their god(s).
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Post by colfoley on May 31, 2018 3:51:52 GMT
It could still be the Kal-Sharok dwarves. There is definitely meant to be something odd about them. They are shorter and paler then Orzammar dwarves, give those who trade with them sinister vibes and very protective of their privacy. So they could have developed a death cult mentality that enabled them to survive in isolation. However, I agree that the Mortalitasi do sound a more obvious fit. The order was originally founded by a Tevinter mage working with the first King Casper Pentaghast so it wouldn't be surprising for them to have strong links with Tevinter and also possibly access to ancient lore in their archives that was forgotten or erased in Tevinter proper. Also, I do wonder if the skills of the Necromancers were originally taught to them by followers of Falon'Din, elven god of the dead. Which brings to mind another faction that could be a possible fit; the elves of the Tirashan with their blood red vallaslin and offering up of their opponents as a sacrifice to their god(s). I came here to mention theKal-shirok Dwarves but then the Tirashan Elves could be VERY interesting given that I have only recently discovered them in my lore related Youtube videos that I have been watching. Of course the only potential negative I could see is getting MORE Elven lore bombs/ focus. I wanna see more Human and Dwarven stuff in DA 4 with maybe a heavy helping of Qunari.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 31, 2018 8:21:49 GMT
I came here to mention theKal-shirok Dwarves but then the Tirashan Elves could be VERY interesting given that I have only recently discovered them in my lore related Youtube videos that I have been watching. Of course the only potential negative I could see is getting MORE Elven lore bombs/ focus. I wanna see more Human and Dwarven stuff in DA 4 with maybe a heavy helping of Qunari. I wonder if there could be any sort of connection between the Kal-Sharok dwarves and the elves of the Tirashan? After all there was some sort of link in the past between dwarves and elves. Kal-Sharok were responsible for wiping out Cad'Halash for sheltering elves from Arlathan Forest and it was assumed this was because they were afraid that doing so would jeopardise the relationship with Tevinter. But what if the reason had nothing to do with the alliance with Tevinter but rather an alliance with the elves of the Tirashan? Then after Kal-Sharok was cut off from Orzammar may be it was the connection to the surface via the elves of the Tirashan that enabled them to survive. Kal-Sharok is located in the same mountain range and they had to have been getting supplies from somewhere. Allegedly it was only discovered they had even survived in the Dragon Age, yet it would seem there was evidence they had been trading with the surface, so unless Tevinter were playing a very secretive game with the Ambassadoria, their link with the outside world had to have been elsewhere.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 31, 2018 8:25:37 GMT
I think some of you are missing a important component in your suggestions: "goth." That is definitely something that describes the Mortalitasi. While we admittedly don't know much about the Kal-Sharok dwarves, dwarves in general are not very gothy. The Legion of the Dead (as someone suggested) is also not "goth," despite its name. Which brings to mind another faction that could be a possible fit; the elves of the Tirashan with their blood red vallaslin and offering up of their opponents as a sacrifice to their god(s). That is in Serault, on the western edge of Orlais. It doesn't really fit with the suggestion that we're going north.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 31, 2018 8:29:18 GMT
I wanna see more Human and Dwarven stuff in DA 4 with maybe a heavy helping of Qunari. Whilst I am a fan of all things elven, I would actually like more now for the other races. Another thought I was having, what if the Kal-Sharok dwarves discovered red lyrium long before it became known in the south? What if exposure to it had built up a resistance to its mind debilitating effects but at the expense of physical appearance? What if they had also discovered how you can "grow" it and so are farming it down below using their own people (may be criminals) as fertiliser or even people captured from the surface? Then it was weapons and structures forged from this substance that enabled them to resist the darkspawn for so long. That might account for why they are so protective of their privacy.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 31, 2018 8:36:44 GMT
That is in Serault, on the western edge of Orlais. It doesn't really fit with the suggestion that we're going north. Serault is on the edge of Orlais but the Tirashan covers a vast area that links up with the Hunterhorn Mountains, under which lie Kal-Sharok. If you look along a line of latitude then the Kal-Sharok dwarves and the elves of the Tirashan are just as much in the north as the Mortalitasi, particularly if you consider their main base is in Nevarra City. Cassandra and her Seekers were placed in the Hunterhorn Mountains, we had dealings with the Kal-Sharok dwarves on the War Table and then Leliana mentions the strange elves of the Tirashan in Trespasser. I think there is definitely going to be some sort of plot that involves all of these even if it has nothing to do with Alexis Kennedy's "Goths".
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Post by Awkward Octopus on May 31, 2018 17:56:14 GMT
I mean, it's probably worth pointing out (just for those who might be unaware) that Alexis Kennedy was creative director for The Last Court game (which takes place in Serault). So at the very least, correctly identified his style.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Jun 15, 2018 22:37:29 GMT
Just wanted to add: Orlais and Elvhenan considered as having gothic architecture. Falon'Din is the god of death, represented by an owl which is also the symbol for Lusacan. Eleni Zinovia's prophecy might actually not be about the Breach in DAI, but about Solas' attempt to remove the Veil, with "hunger" and "shadows" referring to Falon'Din.
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