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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Jun 8, 2018 3:48:54 GMT
Mass Effect 3 and even 2 seemed to cater more toward the Gears of War crowd. Violence in Andromeda seems more cartoonish. Is that due to the art style and tone of the game's optimistic story? Or was it to appeal to a wider audience that has never played a Mass Effect game? Is it fear of people who criticize video games?
I am not asking for more blood and guts in future Bioware titles.
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Post by ahglock on Jun 8, 2018 4:28:15 GMT
It for sure seems toned down compared to ME3, it might be around the same as ME2 but the art style isn't as realistic I guess either. I don;t know if it was a intentional choice or if it was just something that wasn't added due to time. Personally I kind of like this level for this type of game. If the game has a more horror feel sure increase it, but space opera RPG doesn't need graphic depictions of heads exploding IMO. I'm not bothered by it if its in, but I feel it doesn't fit the tone.
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Post by helios969 on Jun 8, 2018 10:04:28 GMT
I think it's still there (given the bazillion enemies I slaughter in a given playthrough) but it ends up being diminished by the lack of a ruthless (renegade) route as a RP option and the overwhelming amount of lighthearted banter triggered in the Nomad after a serious engagement or disturbing reveal. The game story should have come across as dark as hell, but you end up disconnected from it as a result of those elements.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 11:38:37 GMT
Mass Effect 3 and even 2 seemed to cater more toward the Gears of War crowd. Violence in Andromeda seems more cartoonish. Is that due to the art style and tone of the game's optimistic story? Or was it to appeal to a wider audience that has never played a Mass Effect game? Is it fear of people who criticize video games? I am not asking for more blood and guts in future Bioware titles. Violence comes in many forms, not just blood and guts.
Akksul captured Jaal's family and tried to turn them against him. He was very traumatized by the ordeal as were they, which might be a form of psychological torture.
All those Kett that Jaal has killed and him not knowing they were his own people? Again very traumatizing and emotionally scarring, as you saw from Jaal's meltdown at the Kett facility on Voeld. All of it perpetrated by the Kett.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 8, 2018 14:05:09 GMT
MEA has canablism... and you say its "cartoonish"? That being said, it is focused on exploration and discovery; which is a hell of a lot different tone then a galaxy at war with a global extinction event.
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Post by azarhal on Jun 8, 2018 14:23:53 GMT
MEA has canablism... and you say its "cartoonish"? Cannibalism, genetic experimentation on unwilling subjects, brainwashed people, mass kidnapping, plenty of murders and other criminal activities, mind controlling experimentation, terrorism...
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jun 8, 2018 14:30:09 GMT
MEA has canablism... and you say its "cartoonish"? Cannibalism, genetic experimentation on unwilling subjects, brainwashed people, mass kidnapping, plenty of murders and other criminal activities, mind controlling experimentation, terrorism... The whole reason they're going to Andromeda in the first place...
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Post by griffith82 on Jun 8, 2018 20:50:58 GMT
Mass Effect 3 and even 2 seemed to cater more toward the Gears of War crowd. Violence in Andromeda seems more cartoonish. Is that due to the art style and tone of the game's optimistic story? Or was it to appeal to a wider audience that has never played a Mass Effect game? Is it fear of people who criticize video games? I am not asking for more blood and guts in future Bioware titles. Cartoonish? What are you smoking?
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Post by cypherj on Jun 8, 2018 21:36:30 GMT
Well, ME3 was about galactic genocide, so the violence should have been a lot more.
ME:A was made with a much lighter tone, from the protagonist on down to the party banter. But in doing this I never really felt the gravity of what was going on. I never really felt like if I didn't find a new homeworld people were going to start dying. If some of the cryo pods had to be turned off due to dwindling resources or something, that would have added a whole other level. If they had shown a planet where that was completely conquered by the Kett where they had brutally enslaved the Angarans and were exalting them, instead of just a few Angarans in cages like on Voeld, that would have gone a long way.
But that's heavy stuff for a game that was written in a lighter tone.
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Post by bshep on Jun 9, 2018 0:47:08 GMT
Pretty much what was said already. Violence and gore are still there (looking around Kadara makes this very obvious), but since MEA is more about exploration to make colonization viable in the Heleus cluster instead of a galactic wide war against a race bent on exterminate every other advanced species its tone is indeed more light than ME3.
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Post by mannyray on Jun 9, 2018 20:53:19 GMT
I think it's still there (given the bazillion enemies I slaughter in a given playthrough) but it ends up being diminished by the lack of a ruthless (renegade) route as a RP option and the overwhelming amount of lighthearted banter triggered in the Nomad after a serious engagement or disturbing reveal. The game story should have come across as dark as hell, but you end up disconnected from it as a result of those elements. The violence itself doesn't seem any less visceral than the past games, but I concur the Whedonesque cutesey jokey tone at inappropriate times is one thing that annoys the hell out me about the game's characterizations. I reminded myself of that during my latest playthrough.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 10, 2020 16:42:41 GMT
I hope they have the possibility for a darker ryder in terms of renegade route or have some darker humor with it.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 29, 2020 21:53:38 GMT
Jesus, I remember replying to this thread and it was almost 2 years ago. Time is just moving so fast for me now.
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Post by urkibalurki on Mar 30, 2020 6:32:49 GMT
Necroing an old thread, huh?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 1, 2020 21:45:09 GMT
Necroing an old thread, huh? People have a nasty habit of doing that don't they?
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Post by smilesja on Apr 1, 2020 21:45:46 GMT
Necroing an old thread, huh? People have a nasty habit of doing that don't they? Like you're doing?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 1, 2020 22:20:45 GMT
People have a nasty habit of doing that don't they? Like you're doing? Hey I wouldn't have noticed it if it hadn't beenon the front page.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Apr 23, 2020 18:40:52 GMT
There was still plenty of action in MEA but ME3 was a war story and MEA is an exploration and colonization story.
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Post by Gludipow on May 13, 2020 5:12:42 GMT
I know this is an old thread but, in all honesty, this is the first game in what is likely going to be another trilogy. There wasn't nearly as much violence in 1 as there was in 3. More than Andromeda still, but as someone else pointed out, the original trilogy was a war story. When you consider ME:A has the possibility of the Jardaan coming back finding US on their turf, an empire of Kett lingering outside the galaxy still hellbent on exhalting the cluster, and not to mention MORE settlers (Quarians, Drell, Hanar, etc) all coming to settle Andromeda and potentially disturb the peace we have worked so hard to achieve... there is bound to be tension and, yes, possibly war. Which will mean increased violence and loss. It will be our job to try to stop that, or if necessary, act as the spearhead in the war effort.
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Post by ahglock on May 16, 2020 3:36:36 GMT
I know this is an old thread but, in all honesty, this is the first game in what is likely going to be another trilogy. There wasn't nearly as much violence in 1 as there was in 3. More than Andromeda still, but as someone else pointed out, the original trilogy was a war story. When you consider ME:A has the possibility of the Jardaan coming back finding US on their turf, an empire of Kett lingering outside the galaxy still hellbent on exhalting the cluster, and not to mention MORE settlers (Quarians, Drell, Hanar, etc) all coming to settle Andromeda and potentially disturb the peace we have worked so hard to achieve... there is bound to be tension and, yes, possibly war. Which will mean increased violence and loss. It will be our job to try to stop that, or if necessary, act as the spearhead in the war effort. Cats out of the bag, minds as well discuss it now if the topic interests you.
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Post by Gludipow on May 16, 2020 6:44:14 GMT
I know this is an old thread but, in all honesty, this is the first game in what is likely going to be another trilogy. There wasn't nearly as much violence in 1 as there was in 3. More than Andromeda still, but as someone else pointed out, the original trilogy was a war story. When you consider ME:A has the possibility of the Jardaan coming back finding US on their turf, an empire of Kett lingering outside the galaxy still hellbent on exhalting the cluster, and not to mention MORE settlers (Quarians, Drell, Hanar, etc) all coming to settle Andromeda and potentially disturb the peace we have worked so hard to achieve... there is bound to be tension and, yes, possibly war. Which will mean increased violence and loss. It will be our job to try to stop that, or if necessary, act as the spearhead in the war effort. Cats out of the bag, minds as well discuss it now if the topic interests you. I'm game. No pun intended.
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Post by Phantom on Sept 12, 2020 1:14:35 GMT
Like you're doing? Hey I wouldn't have noticed it if it hadn't beenon the front page. necroing a thread needs more quote pyramaid of DOOM
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