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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 20, 2018 11:17:58 GMT
Most likely I will be eliminated. Then the rest of you will know who to vote for next. Not good enough. Mostly likely leaves the excuse that if you are not eliminated then the spies just went for someone else or that someone protected you. Also there is nothing in the rules, I think, that the Grinch couldn't eliminate you overnight in order to throw suspicion directly onto me. I then get voted off automatically the following day. You are clearly claiming the role of Leliana openly. Why do that now after hiding yourself the rest of the time? You could have sat back as you have done previously up to now, let someone else lead the voting against Dadi but you stepped forward and took the lead. As for the comment about Romice, well I'm still waiting for Adonniel's answer on that but an alternative explanation would be that Romice is the spy and so you would naturally want to remove her as a suspect because you were only revealing your knowledge after you had been turned. Also, and here is the really clever part if you are a turned Leliana, what if Dadi is the spy? We vote him off and no one doubts you as Leliana. So everyone you subsequently point to as "turned" will be eliminated. May be first round subsequently you will say you aren't sure but point to someone innocent, then another, until everyone is eliminated but you and the spies win. Everyone was saying why did Adonniel give us a clue about a role when we are not allowed clues and no one knows who is who? Because apparently most people apart from thicko me did including the spies. There is only one role that clue would have been useful to us for and that was the role of Leliana, the absolutely worst person to be turned by the spies. Either that or Adonniel is a really wicked kitty to have so misled us with her poem. Why now? It's the end game. nothing to hide from anymore. That strategy didnt work out for me as a turned Cullen. I think your interpretation of the poem is simply something you badly want everyone else to think. More evidence you badly want me out before another night cycle. You are the only one claiming that interpretation though. You do realize that if I was voted off, and turn out to be innocent, you've essentially framed yourself right?
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Post by TheHeroOfFerelden on Jan 20, 2018 12:18:18 GMT
ust a short trip in here, before going back to bed (for Hero, who isn't in the ME-game: I have catched a cold and am mostly lying down at the moment, so sorry for not participating as much as normally). Hope you get to feeling better soon,fyl
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 20, 2018 13:44:24 GMT
You do realize that if I was voted off, and turn out to be innocent, you've essentially framed yourself right? Absolutely. May be you should just vote me off. The thing is that I am so convinced now you are the turned Leliana that nothing you say or do will convince me otherwise, so I'm pretty useless anyway with my credibility shot and all. Anyway, I've expressed my opinion. As I said before, I won't hold it against people for ignoring me and I'll admit I could be wrong in which case it will be back to square one when it comes to working out who is evil since you have absolutely nothing to go on once Dadi is out of the way (should Dadi prove to be the Queeniest Grinch) and you will be running out of days to investigate. I must go back and check out those clues you mentioned again. May be see if I can work out who other people are/were.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 20, 2018 14:38:56 GMT
You do realize that if I was voted off, and turn out to be innocent, you've essentially framed yourself right? Absolutely. May be you should just vote me off. The thing is that I am so convinced now you are the turned Leliana that nothing you say or do will convince me otherwise, so I'm pretty useless anyway with my credibility shot and all. Anyway, I've expressed my opinion. As I said before, I won't hold it against people for ignoring me and I'll admit I could be wrong in which case it will be back to square one when it comes to working out who is evil since you have absolutely nothing to go on once Dadi is out of the way (should Dadi prove to be the Queeniest Grinch) and you will be running out of days to investigate. I must go back and check out those clues you mentioned again. May be see if I can work out who other people are/were. Well, since I can't convince you, I won't try. There is however, evidence that Dadi is in fact the Grinch, going back before anyone got turned. As I said, before page 107 I had identified 3 suspects. Of those, Moonae voted randomly towards two them, for no particular reason. She may have done the same for Dad, and I missed it but she did vote for both Cmoe and Romice at one point, when she didn't have to. Highly unlikely that she would have voted for an ally when no one else suspected them. Then, well my exoneration for Romice is suspect, if I'm to be considered a possible grinching target, but there still lies the fact that Moonae voted for her for no apparent reason. Unless I'm missing something, which is entirely possible. Cmoe, on the other hand, indicated that she no longer found me suspicious for 'reasons', before the grinching. Afterwards, once you leveled your accusations against me, she said I was innocent before the grinching. She knows this for sure. So either she is a hero and used a power, like Coles, or she is playing a long con, and can somehow predict the future and determine both my role and that someone would attack me, giving her a chance to defend me. I'm going to apply Occam's Razor to this one and say she used a power. So there is evidence, however slim, suggesting Romice is innocent, and good evidence suggesting Cmoe is. That only leaves Dad. And thats all independent of me being turned or not. Now, I'm not turned. We will have to disagree on that of course. I may waste a night to check you out, find you are also innocent, when clears your name, but I'm also likely to be a target overnight. Dragon is a bit of a wild card here, isnt she. Both sides are unwilling to either vote her out or take her out at night because they are unsure of her role. Well, only two people know that role, besides Adonniel, of course. You mentioned you wanted to see Dorians ability. If its Dragon, we'd have a chance to ask two questions. Maybe they should take her out at night and see what happens. I'd even suggest Adonniel post that round at night, EST giving you first crack at the questions in the morning.
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Post by Moonae on Jan 20, 2018 15:04:41 GMT
...I genuinely have no memory of ever voting for romice. I had to go check my notes. Round 1: dragon Round 2: cmoe, space, tittus Round 3: No one? I didn't keep notes on round three cause it was so quick and I wasn't online for most of it. Did I vote for someone? I honestly can't remember...
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 20, 2018 15:10:51 GMT
Just going to let people know both here and on Citadel in case my absence occurs and is thought suspicious, I just had my computer crash on me for no apparent reason so I hope it isn't an indication of something terminal. Fingers crossed I can get through to the end of the game anyway.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 20, 2018 15:16:13 GMT
...I genuinely have no memory of ever voting for romice. Yes, you voted WITH her not FOR her. Not that it proves anything because I already said it was a bit risky if two spies voted for the same person at that stage. Besides any investigations clearing people BEFORE this round are really null and void considering anyone could have been turned including the people previously thought innocent.
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Post by fylimar on Jan 20, 2018 16:39:48 GMT
Some thought, I had. not in a particlura order: - As I wrote before, I do trust what space said before shrink of the heart came to action. I knoe, he could be turned, but imo he has proofen, that he is who he claims to be. - Dragon hinted, that she might be a character, that can't use her ability freely or at night, which would link to only a handful of characters left in the game, she could be - one of them might be Dorian. And there comes gervaise with his first interpretation of adonniels poem in game again: Dorian aka Sparkles. Dorian is one of the characters that can't use their ability freely - and technically not at night. Which could point to dragon being Dorian being grinched. I must admit, I have forgotten that nickname. I don't say, that I'm convinced, Dragon is Dorian and even if she is, that she is grinched, but it's worth to take a look at. That is also my answer to your question, gervaise21: Dragons comment is the closest hint to Dorian, I have. There are two other still alive characters she could theoretically be, but one of them can't be her, so it's a 50/50 thing here. - Cmoes hint about trusting space made me think, that she could be Cole and used Lelianas ability. I might be wrong, but I trust her for now. - as I wrote before, I thought, i#ve gotten a hint from Hero, that he is a specific role, but I could be wrong here. Still I don't find him suspicious. - I still got nothing from romice or dadi. Space made a comment which seems to indicate, romice is innocent, but I have to go back and see, if iot is before or after the shrink of heart night. Dadi still is my main suspect for the original spy. - I said, I trust certain people, but of course, that was before shrink of the heart, no I'm with the X-files: Trust noone I will take a peek over at the Citadel to see, how things are going there and then back to bed.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 20, 2018 17:10:06 GMT
...I genuinely have no memory of ever voting for romice. I had to go check my notes. Round 1: dragon Round 2: cmoe, space, tittus Round 3: No one? I didn't keep notes on round three cause it was so quick and I wasn't online for most of it. Did I vote for someone? I honestly can't remember... Really? Well. Maybe my memory is faulty. I'm getting old and all. I guess I misremembered. So what you are saying us that Romice could totally be another spy. Interesting. So instead of hiding this. A known spy is helping the heroes identify a still standing spy who isn't currently under to much suspicion. Against, mind you, someone who gervaise has strong suspicions about being a turned spy. So what you are saying is you are telling one of your allies that another of your allies might actually be a spy. Interesting. Oh dear.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 17:30:25 GMT
Current Votes: dadithinkimgay 4 votes romice 2 votes
Still to Vote: 3. dadithinkimgay 10. gervaise21
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Post by Serza on Jan 20, 2018 18:35:49 GMT
I'd be wary, Cowboy. Remember, I started dropping loads of PsyOps bullshit when I was made.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 20, 2018 18:49:44 GMT
I wonder what Dadi is waiting for? May be for me to vote Romice so he can swoop in a make it a tied vote? Okay, I said originally that we should stick to getting rid of the old Grinch before concentrating on finding the new one, so I'll go with the general consensus and vote for Dadithinkimgay because Space wouldn't have suggested it if he wasn't certain that Dadi was going to be revealed as the Grinch.
However, that doesn't prove anything about the innocence or guilt of anyone else, including me. Then we shall see what happens overnight.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 20, 2018 18:51:42 GMT
I'd be wary, Cowboy. Remember, I started dropping loads of PsyOps bullshit when I was made. Good point. Romice might actually be turned, and they are playing me. All I can say for sure is she isnt an original spy. I'd be telling who everyone is now but I don't think I'm supposed to do that. I'll be keeping an eye on Dorian though.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 20, 2018 18:54:09 GMT
I wonder what Dadi is waiting for? May be for me to vote Romice so he can swoop in a make it a tied vote? Okay, I said originally that we should stick to getting rid of the old Grinch before concentrating on finding the new one, so I'll go with the general consensus and vote for Dadithinkimgay because Space wouldn't have suggested it if he wasn't certain that Dadi was going to be revealed as the Grinch. However, that doesn't prove anything about the innocence or guilt of anyone else, including me. Then we shall see what happens overnight. Yup correct. We'll see how it plays out. Once we do start figuring out the turncoat, it could be anyone, really. But we should leave that til 'tomorrow'. EDIT: And I suspect Dad is just really busy. he's been swamped with work lately. Good luck with your own computer problems too gervaise21
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Post by Serza on Jan 20, 2018 18:55:50 GMT
I'd be wary, Cowboy. Remember, I started dropping loads of PsyOps bullshit when I was made. Good point. Romice might actually be turned, and they are playing me. All I can say for sure is she isnt an original spy. I'd be telling who everyone is now but I don't think I'm supposed to do that. I'll be keeping an eye on Dorian though. Yeah, just... what she's doing right now sounds exactly like something I'd do to throw off the scent. PsyOps bullshit and ambushes, that's my shtick, apparently.
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Post by romice on Jan 20, 2018 19:00:13 GMT
I'd be wary, Cowboy. Remember, I started dropping loads of PsyOps bullshit when I was made. Good point. Romice might actually be turned, and they are playing me. All I can say for sure is she isnt an original spy. I'd be telling who everyone is now but I don't think I'm supposed to do that. I'll be keeping an eye on Dorian though. Me, playing you? <gasp> Preposterous! I'd never hurt a fly.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 20, 2018 19:03:02 GMT
Good point. Romice might actually be turned, and they are playing me. All I can say for sure is she isnt an original spy. I'd be telling who everyone is now but I don't think I'm supposed to do that. I'll be keeping an eye on Dorian though. Me, playing you? <gasp> Preposterous! I'd never hurt a fly. You sound like Adonniel in the other game
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 20, 2018 19:52:05 GMT
I'd even suggest Adonniel post that round at night, EST giving you first crack at the questions in the morning. You know I've often wondered about that with Dorian. How does the GM make it fair all round? Otherwise, due to the timing, it could mean that the spies jump in and ask him a worthless question but framed in such a way that it wouldn't necessarily incriminate the person who asked it. That would be really disappointing. Why should I get first crack just because I happen to be awake at the right time? None of these things has really had to be thought about up to now because Dorian has either not been in the game or voted off.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 20, 2018 20:08:47 GMT
I'd even suggest Adonniel post that round at night, EST giving you first crack at the questions in the morning. You know I've often wondered about that with Dorian. How does the GM make it fair all round? Otherwise, due to the timing, it could mean that the spies jump in and ask him a worthless question but framed in such a way that it wouldn't necessarily incriminate the person who asked it. That would be really disappointing. Why should I get first crack just because I happen to be awake at the right time? None of these things has really had to be thought about up to now because Dorian has either not been in the game or voted off. Yeah I agree, its really hard to be fair about that, but it hasn't come up, as you said.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2018 20:56:52 GMT
I'd even suggest Adonniel post that round at night, EST giving you first crack at the questions in the morning. You know I've often wondered about that with Dorian. How does the GM make it fair all round? Otherwise, due to the timing, it could mean that the spies jump in and ask him a worthless question but framed in such a way that it wouldn't necessarily incriminate the person who asked it. That would be really disappointing. Why should I get first crack just because I happen to be awake at the right time? None of these things has really had to be thought about up to now because Dorian has either not been in the game or voted off. It's impossible to make a singular post without somebody sleeping in some time zone. As soon as I make an elimination post, which will be in my time zone when it's simply convenient for me, it's a fair game for whoever has the fastest reaction. Both evil and hero teams have multiple players residing in different zones. My best advice would be for you not to wake up at first crack for a game, especially since you haven't a clue if I'm posting in the morning in my time zone or in the evening in my time zone and players don't even have a warning that Dorian's about to die, so it's a surprise to everyone. Luck is an element in any game. If you're on then you grab a cookie.
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Post by dragontartare on Jan 20, 2018 23:45:55 GMT
I'd be wary, Cowboy. Remember, I started dropping loads of PsyOps bullshit when I was made. Good point. Romice might actually be turned, and they are playing me. All I can say for sure is she isnt an original spy. I'd be telling who everyone is now but I don't think I'm supposed to do that. I'll be keeping an eye on Dorian though. I actually forgot that you were initially certain about romice. Perhaps I should change my vote away from her (though I guess dad is in the lead anyway).
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 21, 2018 0:31:23 GMT
Good point. Romice might actually be turned, and they are playing me. All I can say for sure is she isnt an original spy. I'd be telling who everyone is now but I don't think I'm supposed to do that. I'll be keeping an eye on Dorian though. I actually forgot that you were initially certain about romice. Perhaps I should change my vote away from her (though I guess dad is in the lead anyway). Yeah I'm confident she isnt 'queenie', but she might be turned, who knows I doubt it matters now anyway. Like you said, one vote wont make much of a difference. I'm going to have serious egg on my face if Dad is innocent I highly doubt it, but like I said, there is one other suspect for Queenie.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2018 17:47:37 GMT
The eliminated player wasdadithinkimgay the Queeniest Venatori Grinch *** SNOWY NIGHT ***
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Post by romice on Jan 21, 2018 18:10:08 GMT
Yay, we did it guys Now to find the turncoat
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Post by Space Cowboy on Jan 21, 2018 18:17:31 GMT
Well.. I'm not one to gloat *sips brandy* All kidding aside, I'm actually relieved. I was beginning to second guess myself Sorry that he had to go in absentia though, since it seems he hasnt checked in all weekend.
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