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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2018 21:37:49 GMT
The bunny had to be somewhere at the library. The old dog in him could practically sniff out the creature's presence. Pushing a couple of books aside, Space encountered a brightly coloured box that raised both curiosity and an urgent sense of trouble in the making. Succumbing to curiosity, Space pulled at the large bow and cracked the lid open.
As he had done so, a little bunny bolted out, bearing an outstanding look of mischief and began shouting at the top of its voice.
SPACE COWBOY IS A VENATORI AGENT!
As everyone came running to see what the racket's about, none noticed one more person going missing.
The eliminated player was gervaise21 the Surgeon ~~ DAYTIME ~~
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Post by pelassarias on Apr 7, 2018 22:26:26 GMT
Ah, looks like Space did pull the risky move last round. It served him well for awhile too, although I wasn't as trusting as some of the other Heroes/ his possible accomplice. Seems temptation got the better of him though. One thing I do completely trust in this game is that talking bunny, so I'm voting for Space. In the meantime I'm going to go back to look for clues from the last round.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 0:17:21 GMT
Ah, looks like Space did pull the risky move last round. It served him well for awhile too, although I wasn't as trusting as some of the other Heroes/ his possible accomplice. Seems temptation got the better of him though. One thing I do completely trust in this game is that talking bunny, so I'm voting for Space. In the meantime I'm going to go back to look for clues from the last round. Ahahaha you jumped on that way too fast, my friend. Almost as if you knew it wasn't true but wanted to take advantage of it *Cabot* "What? You aren't seriously going to believe the talking bunny?!" he said incredulously. "Look, I just found this weird box while looking for Easter Eggs. I'm no venatori agent!" Muttering to himself. "I shouldn't have opened that sodding box."
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 0:21:50 GMT
Heh. When I told Adonniel I'd open the box I said "What could possibly go wrong?" Well, since Pela took the mischief box at its word so easily, I find that pretty suspicious, so I'll return the favour. Pelassarias. And sorry Gervaise. I seem to have found the golden egg in the wrong round.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 8, 2018 0:37:37 GMT
RIP, we lost the surgeon... not good considering we're getting attacked by agents! Sorry Gervaise!
Hmmm, well... unlike pela, I'm not so sure that Space is evil based on a little furball proclaiming it so. I feel he's probably just more of a victim of mystery box shenanigans. It's something to consider though on the off chance that that box actually does reveal who one of the agents are.
That said, pela did jump awfully fast on the space is evil bandwagon... which could be considered pretty suspicious.
I'm gonna hold off for now and see how the others vote and what they think of the box development.
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Post by pelassarias on Apr 8, 2018 1:24:33 GMT
Ah, looks like Space did pull the risky move last round. It served him well for awhile too, although I wasn't as trusting as some of the other Heroes/ his possible accomplice. Seems temptation got the better of him though. One thing I do completely trust in this game is that talking bunny, so I'm voting for Space. In the meantime I'm going to go back to look for clues from the last round. Ahahaha you jumped on that way too fast, my friend. Almost as if you knew it wasn't true but wanted to take advantage of it You know who else jumped the gun a little too fast? Reed, your possible accomplice, warding off suspicion from you once again. I'm pretty suspicious of not only you, but reed. You two are were covering each other during the last round, as if you two are in cahoots with one another. Since I have no other leads, I'm willing to test this theory out by keeping my vote where it is. If the rest of the Heroes don't trust me and vote me out, then they'll know I'm probably right with this theory. Or half right. ETA: Okay, I'm probably half right with this theory given that Space placed his vote back to reed last round. But, I do believe the talking bunny over his and reed's defense, especially since Space voted for me rather quickly, so I'm keeping my vote where it is for the time being. Also if Space was truly a Hero, wouldn't he try to remind me that the bunny isn't the most reliable instead of trying to quickly paint me as a spy? ETAA: Okay, looked back on Space's voting pattern once more. The only person who he hasn't voted for that is still in the game is Cati. In the beginning Space also covered for him. So my new theory is that that talking bunny is right and Cati is probably his accomplice. Sorry reed!
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Post by pelassarias on Apr 8, 2018 2:43:41 GMT
Also I hate to double post but I feel like I need to defend myself since I am looking a bit suspicious as of late! It's okay if you guys don't trust me. I don't blame you after my seemingly hasty vote and these past games and all. But please at least trust the math! Space has voted for four people these past two rounds. Me, gervaise (he tried to at least), romice, and reed. One of them has already been confirmed as an innocent and I know that another is innocent and I am as well. So that means he has more than likely voted for three or four innocent people. That is too much for a Hero in my opinion! Also I just want to add that part of the reason why I immediately voted for Space was to look into his reaction, and his reaction and following vote is pretty suspicious! So in short, if you cannot trust my shady self or the talking bunny, then trust the voting pattern!
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 2:51:34 GMT
Also I hate to double post but I feel like I need to defend myself since I am looking a bit suspicious as of late! It's okay if you guys don't trust me. I don't blame you after my seemingly hasty vote and these past games and all. But please at least trust the math! Space has voted for four people these past two rounds. Me, gervaise (he tried to at least), romice, and reed. One of them has already been confirmed as an innocent and I know that another is innocent and I am as well. So that means he has more than likely voted for three or four innocent people. That is too much for a Hero in my opinion! Also I just want to add that part of the reason why I immediately voted for Space was to look into his reaction, and his reaction and following vote is pretty suspicious! So in short, if you cannot trust my shady self or the talking bunny, then trust the voting pattern! I change my vote from Pelassarias to Cati. What now? I really have no idea who is a spy, so by all means vote me out if you all want to believe a mischievous furball
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 8, 2018 5:16:56 GMT
Well, that escalated quickly! So... Space just voted for another person and Pela seems to be scrambling for explanations. Which seems to be very suspicious behavior for the both of them. However, you both can't be an agent as, why would you be attacking each other if you were? (unless it was a bold strategy, cotton!) This kind of convinces me that neither of you are an agent. Which leaves me with Romice and Cati, as the only person I'm sure is innocent, is myself. Of course, I've trusted Pela before and that burned my ass. lol I'm still undecided as of now.
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Post by romice on Apr 8, 2018 8:52:20 GMT
Wow, a person sleeps in on a Sunday and that's what happens Pela and Space could be playing a very bold Venatori tactic, as they are both veterans and might want to try something new. And fighting each other is pretty much a guarantee of not being connected. That said I find it more probable that the mystery box shouted out Space's true identity, which would confirm him as being willing to play as a bold spy. I'll vote Space cowboy for now, and see what the rest of the day brings
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Post by fylimar on Apr 8, 2018 10:33:55 GMT
Sorry, gervaise, it seems, you are cursed too.
As for the events, I really will always trust bunnies, talking or not. Who else can you trust , if not bunnies?
Space could pull an elaborate stunt here, voting for his accomplice in hopes that noone will follow, but think him innocent. On the other hand, pela could jump on the mischievous egg and frame someone innocent. Or someone else is glad, that pela and space became suspicious and are both heros. I think, scenario 1 is the most likely for now, the mischievous about the egg could be, that it announces the finders true nature
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 10:36:07 GMT
Well, at the moment I trust Reed more, simply because he didn't jump to assume my guilt. Of course this could be a spy strategy too. Romice and Pela both seemed quick to believe an entity that Adonniels narrative plainly said was up to no good.
We'll have to see what happens with everyone else. I may yet use my last vote change.
If I'm voted out, I'll be proven innocent, and the rest of you will have more ammo to look at regarding voting patterns.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 10:39:52 GMT
Sorry, gervaise, it seems, you are cursed too. As for the events, I really will always trust bunnies, talking or not. Who else can you trust , if not bunnies? Space could pull an elaborate stunt here, voting for his accomplice in hopes that noone will follow, but think him innocent. On the other hand, pela could jump on the mischievous egg and frame someone innocent. Or someone else is glad, that pela and space became suspicious and are both heros. I think, scenario 1 is the most likely for now, the mischievous about the egg could be, that it announces the finders true nature I'm hurt that you trust me so little I think pulling an elaborate stunt would be a fun trick for a spy. However not one that is being pulled now. It's either option 2 or 3, as will be proven when/if I'm voted out.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 8, 2018 11:01:35 GMT
Well that was no surprise. I even said to Adonniel when I failed to find an egg that I hoped I wouldn't be attacked in the night. So in short, if you cannot trust my shady self or the talking bunny, then trust the voting patternOn the whole I'd agree with this, although it is possible the spies are messing with the voting patterns because they know people (like myself) are going to study them. Here are a few thoughts that may help: The only person who has reason to hold a grudge against me from the last round is Reed. However, would Reed really be stupid enough to eliminate me and make himself the obvious suspect? So probably I was eliminated to frame Reed. Space claims to have found the Golden Egg the previous night and used it to protect me. That would make sense as, in all modesty, I am a strong player. However, he then directed suspicion at me initially before voting for Reed. Why protect me and then throw suspicion at me? Also when he said he had flipped a coin over me, he also said he thought it unlikely that Catilina or Reed were spies again, yet after my defence in contradiction of his statement, he votes for Reed instead of Romice, then changes to Romice and then back to Reed. Anyway, it seems to me that initially voting for Reed, removing it to vote for Romice and then restoring it to Reed, suggests to me that if Space is a spy, then Reed is not. I must admit I find Space constantly changing of vote and then apologising to the victim a little less convincing now. Obviously in the first round there is a chance of hitting an innocent person instead of a spy. Why apologise to Reed before the result is known when he ends up in the firing line after you have voted for him twice? That said, I wouldn't trust that Easter Bunny in the slightest. Is he a truthsayer bunny or a mischief and mayhem bunny? I still hold to the idea that Catilina and Romice can't both be spies, so if one is the other isn't. I steadfastly refused to vote for Catilina the first round, opting for Romice (saying I was allying with Catilina) and then Reed (when Romice's action seemed to make her look innocent), so if Catilina is a spy why eliminate me? Surely I would have been a good person to cultivate as an ally? Anyway I don't envy you guys trying to sort this one out. All you have to go on is the word of a rabbit and voting patterns that may have been manipulated by crafty veteran players. Good Luck.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 11:34:38 GMT
Space claims to have found the Golden Egg the previous night and used it to protect me. That would make sense as, in all modesty, I am a strong player. However, he then directed suspicion at me initially before voting for Reed. Why protect me and then throw suspicion at me? Night one I protected a strong player who is often targeted first, as you said. That doesn't mean I'd never suspect you. You could have been a spy and I had needlessly protected a spy. I had no way of knowing. You were innocent and unfortunately eliminated this game. Next game you could very well be a spy, who knows? I can't simply offer blanket trust to a player across multiple games(EDIT or rounds maybe is a better way to put it?). It doesn't work that way. I'm watching everyone's behaviour now. The spies know I'm innocent.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 8, 2018 13:19:39 GMT
That doesn't mean I'd never suspect you. You could have been a spy and I had needlessly protected a spy This is true but if I had used my protection the first night on someone, I wouldn't then vote them off the next day. That would be a total waste of protection. Of course not bolding your vote could have been deliberate to see what other people did and I jumped in a bit too soon with my defence and pointing out your omission but the fact is you did start off opting to vote against me. You didn't want to vote for either of the Sera cursed players or those who had been spies the previous round. Logically, based off everything you said that guided your initial vote, the only person you should have been voting for was Romice. Yet you voted for Reed and only switched to Romice to create a tie with yourself(except it didn't) and then promptly switched back to Reed when you realised your mistake. Then when I changed my vote to Reed, because Romice had changed her vote from you (and to force Reed into making an actual decision that might be informative), putting Reed in danger of being voted off, you apologised to Reed for placing them in danger, having previously persuaded people that you were a good guy because you didn't want to place Romice in danger. The things is whilst an innocent person does not want to condemn other innocent people, they also know that someone has to be voted off. It is all very well playing the nice guy but at the end of the day it is important to the team for innocent people to survive, so I don't really see the need to apologise for trying to save yourself. It is not as though anyone else might have an important role so it is better to sacrifice yourself than risk losing them. I was the last person to vote initially last round and I explained why I created a tie rather than simply vote for a simple elimination. This was logical, since I thought you were innocent and was in no danger myself. However, if I had been in danger then I would have ensured my own safety because I knew I was innocent, whereas with anyone else I only thought they were innocent and hoped I was correct. This is why your behaviour strikes me as a little odd.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 16:11:54 GMT
This is why your behaviour strikes me as a little odd. My behaviour always strikes you as odd. That's not a bad thing I guess. I'm frequently odd. Again, I have no suspicions on anyone. It could be anyone. Romice seems like a good possibility but she may turn out to be innocent too. Or Cati. I find it unlikely both Cati and Reed are spies, again, but either one of them could be.
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Post by Moonae on Apr 8, 2018 16:23:09 GMT
It's always very entertaining to watch everyone argue in circles around each other when you have no stakes in it yourself. Keep up the good work, people.
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Post by gervaise21 on Apr 8, 2018 16:30:39 GMT
Well I really do think the innocent villagers need a bit of luck on their side then because if they don't identify a spy this round then it is going to be game over after the night-time elimination, unless one of them picks the protection egg and even then they have to correctly identify the person to protect. No pressure then.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 17:05:30 GMT
Well I really do think the innocent villagers need a bit of luck on their side then because if they don't identify a spy this round then it is going to be game over after the night-time elimination, unless one of them picks the protection egg and even then they have to correctly identify the person to protect. No pressure then. Agreed, and going after me will be a mistake on the hero's part. I was hasty to vote Pela. Similarly to how I was hasty to accuse you when I was leli a couple games ago. So I dont mind switching to Cat. Thinking about it now I suspect Pela is innocent since a spy might have been more cautious at throwing out an accusation/vote first. They would more likely wait to see who took the bunny bait first. because, again, they know I'm innocent.
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Post by Catilina on Apr 8, 2018 17:46:34 GMT
Space Cowboy
But I admit, I'm only sure in my innocence, everything else is vague to me... so: this can change.
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 20:01:55 GMT
Well, heroes. You better vote someone besides me, because, as Gervaise pointed out, if a hero (me) is voted out, it becomes 2x2 into the night, and the spies win unless someone can be protected.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 8, 2018 20:06:58 GMT
Adonniel did say that the box raised an urgent sense of trouble and that the bunny was wearing a face of mischief... so I'm still not convinced that we should follow the word of said mystery box bunny.
So I'm more inclined to believe Space. However, I'm pretty suspicious of the others... So I believe I will vote for Catilina
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Post by Space Cowboy on Apr 8, 2018 20:41:46 GMT
Adonniel did say that the box raised an urgent sense of trouble and that the bunny was wearing a face of mischief... so I'm still not convinced that we should follow the word of said mystery box bunny. So I'm more inclined to believe Space. However, I'm pretty suspicious of the others... So I believe I will vote for CatilinaThanks for believing in me. It's a bit of a shot in the dark however. Hopefully Cati isn't our third ally.
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Post by sgtreed24 on Apr 8, 2018 20:53:45 GMT
Adonniel did say that the box raised an urgent sense of trouble and that the bunny was wearing a face of mischief... so I'm still not convinced that we should follow the word of said mystery box bunny. So I'm more inclined to believe Space. However, I'm pretty suspicious of the others... So I believe I will vote for CatilinaThanks for believing in me. It's a bit of a shot in the dark however. Hopefully Cati isn't our third ally. I suppose we'll find out if my trust was well placed. You have the box to thank, however, because I kind of agree with the others that your voting has been a bit all over the place, but I really just don't trust any sort of mystery box. I feel like it was designed specifically to make a mess of things lol
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