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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 21, 2018 8:03:37 GMT
I think it's probably a little from column A, a little from column B.
Actually that was a very logical reconciling of the plot in a way that makes sense and is realistic to the setting. I must admit I had forgotten about the significance of familial blood in the Legacy story or that of the Stone Prisoner. I'm not sure that David Gaider was actually thinking of that when he wrote the comic plot, but I'm happy to go with it as an explanation for the first part of the story.
However, what about the Titus plot?
Actually I find the whole magrallan plot really OTT. A device that can control the minds of every person in Thedas? It dates back to the time of the Dreamers yet only Maric's blood is able to power it because he has dragon blood?
I think I'll put that one down to Titus' own delusions of grandeur, so it is what he wanted to believe rather than was actually possible. To be honest I hate the idea of being able to change reality with just one powerful magical device. It is why I was not in favour of the Time Magic plot and why the discovery that the Veil was a construct of Solas for me was disappointing. Plus if powerful mages are able to do these things, how realistically do other mere mortals stand a chance?
What I liked about the Thedas setting was that there were limits to what mages could do but now it would seem the writers have moved the goal posts.
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Post by phoray on Jun 21, 2018 17:44:30 GMT
What I liked about the Thedas setting was that there were limits to what mages could do but now it would seem the writers have moved the goal posts. They've never officialized the Goal Posts of Blood Magic. Maybe they'll set limits in DA4, but as of right now, it seems if you have access to a powerful enough demon and enough blood, you can do anything. (like tear a whole in the veil and walk physically into the fade )
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 21, 2018 18:18:50 GMT
Maybe they'll set limits in DA4, but as of right now, it seems if you have access to a powerful enough demon and enough blood, you can do anything. (like tear a whole in the veil and walk physically into the fade Oh I realise that was an exception that sort of proved the rule. It was a one off but the Magisters weren't able to stay there for whatever reason and got burped out again (or so the Chantry version goes). That was the frustrating part of having Corypheus as an antagonist but discovering so little of what actually happened. Back in Legacy he seemed to have lost his memory or at least been left a bit hazy as to details but by DAI he seemed to be more lucid about the whole enterprise and yet we are still none the wiser. In fact, until Corypheus was introduced to the scene, we didn't know whether it was just a colourful myth that the Chantry had invented to explain the darkspawn. After all, the dwarves had always maintained that it came from somewhere else and apparently the elves do too since they have a special word for where it came from and that isn't the Black City. Bear in mind that apparently everyone can now walk physically in the Fade provided they have the right key/anchor. What I meant was that it is now becoming all too common place. Take Ameridan. He was meant to be just a regular demon hunter from the Dales who got co-opted into leading the first Inquisition. Then it turns out he could do powerful magic all on his own that froze him and his assailant in some sort of time bubble. We already knew from the Western Approach that mages from Ancient Tevinter seemed to be able to do this but, I seem to recall, with the aid of an ancient artefact and working together, not simply one mage all on his own with nothing to aid him but his staff. I suppose it is possible that he did find and use some artefact that he found in the Temple of Razikale but we were never told that. Alexius and Dorian were fairly ordinary mages with an interest in exploring the boundaries of magic but apparently had worked out all the theory to travel in time, just needed the requisite power. Where exactly did that come from? If it was so easy to work out, how come they didn't do so back in the day when Tevinter was really pushing the boundaries? Or was that where Alexius got his theories from, looking in the ancient archives? Then we had Imshael asserting to Michel that if he would do a deal with him he was able to alter people's memories. Of course, he never had to come good on that promise but, if we assume it was true, it probably explains why there appear to be so many gaps in the history of various races where they have no knowledge of things which they ought to have remembered. However, if that is what is happening, how is it so easy for demons to do this? Also how is Cole able to read the memories of people he has never met, who are thousands of miles away, just because they happen to be in the memory of someone he is with? All the above can be explained by "magic" but if that is the case, I wish they would give a bit more detail as to why it is possible rather than just say "it's.... magic, go with it".
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Post by melbella on Jun 21, 2018 19:45:21 GMT
The suppression of magic for the last thousand years or so? Knowledge is lost, among other things. Tevinter mages were able to stop time (Still Ruins). Also, Ameridan had a spirit companion, not unlike the Avvar I think, so that could account for his advanced know-how and ability all by his lonely.
On your question re: Cole, I would hazard a guess that it is because of the Fade, since he is still a spirit. The Fade is everywhere and nowhere. Thousands of miles in the "real" world don't mean anything in the Fade.
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Post by LogicGunn on Jun 21, 2018 22:55:24 GMT
Play as Andraste & find out not only that she was a bloodmage, but she also didn't believe in the maker & was just using it to her advantage. Hmm, doubt BW would do that, they'd probably make her a holier than thou type, but I can dream. In all seriousness, time erases all edges from a historical figure as they are reshaped to suit an ideology, so I can totally see a DA game where you can play as Andraste and make her whatever the hell you want her to be. Bioware don't shy from that, look at the inquisitor-play as you will but expect powerful groups (the Chantry, the Templars, the Mages) to try to stick a convenient label on you. Literal or spiritual wife of the maker, or profiteering heretic? Blood mage? Halfling? The Original Red Jenny?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jun 21, 2018 23:07:50 GMT
To be honest I doubt they will ever make a game directly involving Andraste simply because that would have to involve the Maker and they have said many times that they are not going to address that one way or the other, leaving it ambiguous.
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Post by erikson on Jun 22, 2018 3:58:00 GMT
To be honest I doubt they will ever make a game directly involving Andraste simply because that would have to involve the Maker and they have said many times that they are not going to address that one way or the other, leaving it ambiguous. I think the Maker is better left unadressed, but I think you could do a game set during the era of Andraste and still maintain the mystique and mystery surrounding her. Having the game set during the events of her life but never directly involving her "on camera" in a direct way (how old passion plays used to be done) would work I think. Not saying they would do it, or that I particularly want them to, but I think it could be done.
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Post by luzarius on Jun 22, 2018 19:14:32 GMT
Whatever era has the most taverns & brothels!
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Post by pessimistpanda on Jun 23, 2018 13:26:49 GMT
I used to want an RTS-type game where you command armies through major wars in the history of Thedas.
These days, prequels turn me off completely. I think generally speaking it's just better to not make them.
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Post by Ameridan on Jul 2, 2018 0:19:07 GMT
The second or third blight would be a cool setting.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Jul 2, 2018 16:14:59 GMT
If anyone played FF10, Andraste could be the Yuna to our character's Tidus.
She's technically the "main" character while we are there to support her, and just like Tidus, you're forgotten about in the annals of history
Or maybe you can actually play one of her disciples since they're mostly blank slates, and the only predetermined part is what you do at the very end.
I would actually love this, should they ever want to deconstruct Andraste in Dragon Age. Would make for an amazing story if they do it right.
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Post by Kabraxal on Jul 3, 2018 4:34:33 GMT
I’m partial to the “fall” of the Dwarven kingdom. Not just for dearves, but the story of what happened would be fascinating.
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Post by jjdxb on Jul 3, 2018 19:31:48 GMT
The Clone Wars of course
hmm?? Oh, sorry, wrong fandom.
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Post by xerrai on Jul 8, 2018 21:54:15 GMT
I'd say somewhere between the Divine and Black Age would be best. So many conflicts are in that time period so its ripe with potential. And because Blights could be so widespread and destructive (particularly the first and second blights), the devs could use that to explain why our protagonist was never heard of.
I also heard of an interesting idea of allowing us to play as Andraste (weird, I know). The general idea is that because the devs plan to leave the Maker's existence oblivious and that views on Andraste herself are so divided, the devs can come up with a game where all versions of Andraste are possible. And the idea makes a bit of sense. All of the classes have been represented by Andraste at some point. Orlais depicts the warrior, Tevinter claims she was a mage, and in The Last Court we find a hunter version. But there are several debates on aspects of her life, such as lovers, hair color and belief on magic. Just lock in race and general background like they did in DA2, lock in gender too and boom--an Andraste where you can choose the narrative that will ultimately have no lingering effect.
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Post by bzombo on Jul 10, 2018 20:40:31 GMT
They seem pretty set on staying in the Dragon Age. With that in mind, I'd love to play a game about Fereldan fighting against Orlais for their independence. Either playing as Loghain/Maric or playing as someone else who plays an integral role. I think it would be pretty cool to see what they would do with that.
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