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Post by Absafraginlootly on Jun 8, 2024 5:07:25 GMT
Question: What is a veil jumper? This must be something from comics or tv show or something? They are a group from the lead in comic 'The Missing' containing dalish elves but also city elves and humans. They manage the bizarre magical occurrences in the Arlathan Forest.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 8, 2024 13:32:57 GMT
Temporary Companion:Secret inquisition - Scout Lace Harding (I wouldn't be surprised if she were permanent but since we only have 7 I'm gonna guess temporary) I (highly) doubt that we ever get any temporary Companions. Also if they really do this i don´t think it would be Harding. Maybe Varric and then killing him for drama. And again no character which the casual player knows for the rest of your 7 picks? Where is our DA2 Isabela or DAI Cassandra? Yeah this character aka male dwarf is pretty unlikely. I would even rule out male dwarf as companion. For Veilguard i think we are only getting a female Qunari and female dwarf.
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Post by celestielf on Jun 8, 2024 15:11:44 GMT
My theory on companions atm (obviously probably not accurate):
1. Male human or elf Warden warrior (Davrin, teased in the voice acting video from years ago) 2. Female Qunari archer (has been in concept art and trailers, where she shoots a darkspawn. Unclear if a rogue or mage class due to glowing arrows) 3. Female dwarf (either Harding or someone new) 4. Male Antivan Crow (going from concept art. We could also get a lady Crow instead, but I don't think it will be Teia because she is already in a relationship and they said the companions are romanceable). 5. Female human or elf mage (Mortalitasi, Tevinter, or Veil Jumper) 6. Male human or elf mage (ditto) 7. A spirit of some kind (could tie into Mortalitasi) or an Executor. There will probably be a spirit-adjacent companion as we've had one each game (Wynne, Anders, Cole).
I also think a nonbinary companion is possible, and when I say male/female I don't necessarily mean assigned such at birth. I'm purely guessing that they will have a fairly even split between male/female characters, as they did in DA2.
Edit: realizing that my lineup doesn't have a representative from Rivain, which seems like it should be a thing given the promo material. 🤔
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 9, 2024 5:35:47 GMT
Temporary Companion:Secret inquisition - Scout Lace Harding (I wouldn't be surprised if she were permanent but since we only have 7 I'm gonna guess temporary) I (highly) doubt that we ever get any temporary Companions. Also if they really do this i don´t think it would be Harding. Maybe Varric and then killing him for drama. And again no character which the casual player knows for the rest of your 7 picks? Where is our DA2 Isabela or DAI Cassandra? Yeah this character aka male dwarf is pretty unlikely. I would even rule out male dwarf as companion. For Veilguard i think we are only getting a female Qunari and female dwarf.
As i said a page before. I (highly) doubt we get a dwarf at all sadly. Because of the 7 companions with faction that are shown as important. I hope i am wrong here.
As for the temporary Companion. I think we get one in the start, because of the leak video material we got. But i am not sure that that will be Harding or Varric. I see both as i said in the discussion thread more like Duncan.
And yes no character which the casual player, which doesn't know books or comics, know. A person Solas doesn't know. That means for me: No inquisition, no companion from DAI and someone Solas underestimated. And it is clear for me that the companions aren't high in the ranks of there faction. So the faction underestimat us as well. The people in power don't see the problem.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 9, 2024 5:44:25 GMT
My theory on companions atm (obviously probably not accurate): 1. Male human or elf Warden warrior (Davrin, teased in the voice acting video from years ago) 2. Female Qunari archer (has been in concept art and trailers, where she shoots a darkspawn. Unclear if a rogue or mage class due to glowing arrows) 3. Female dwarf (either Harding or someone new) 4. Male Antivan Crow (going from concept art. We could also get a lady Crow instead, but I don't think it will be Teia because she is already in a relationship and they said the companions are romanceable). 5. Female human or elf mage (Mortalitasi, Tevinter, or Veil Jumper) 6. Male human or elf mage (ditto) 7. A spirit of some kind (could tie into Mortalitasi) or an Executor. There will probably be a spirit-adjacent companion as we've had one each game (Wynne, Anders, Cole). I also think a nonbinary companion is possible, and when I say male/female I don't necessarily mean assigned such at birth. I'm purely guessing that they will have a fairly even split between male/female characters, as they did in DA2. Edit: realizing that my lineup doesn't have a representative from Rivain, which seems like it should be a thing given the promo material. 🤔 1. We will get a warden. I am not sure if it will be Davrin or is he only temporary at the start. 2. Female qunari 95% sure. But i think more with 2 daggers. The lord of fotune or qun.
3. Don't see that. (a real Executor is more likely in my eyes)
4. Antivan crow but i hope for the female concept art. We have male crow already. 5. Veil Jumper for sure. 6. Shadow Dragon (Tevinter) for sure. 7. Mortalitasi i hope that they aren't the one that got cut.
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Post by fairdragon on Jun 9, 2024 5:53:09 GMT
Based on the Thedas calls trailer and what we know with them being from different factions and that it is going to cover the northern part of the map in general I'll guess: 1 from Antiva (likely from the Crows, rogue, elf or human) 1 from Rivain (could be any class, elf or human, maybe a pirate) 1 from Anderfels (Grey Warden, likely a warrior and human) 1 Qunari (likely a warrior from Par Vollen or Seheron) 1 from Tevinter (likely a human mage) If we get a returning companion, my guesses would be that could be Dorian, Isabela, or Zevran. The last two spots are really the wildcard ones. Maybe a fog warrior from Seheron? A elf who defects from Solas? Someone from the south like Ferelden or Orlais to give some perspective from the southern part of the map and how they view the north? A character from a country not shown on the map from the trailer like Nevarra? Someone from a Dalish clan or a dwarf from Kal-Sharok? I speculat that the Qunari and Rivian are one and the same.
We get for sure 1 from Arlathan Forest (Veil Jumper). Maybe also 1 from Nevarra but i am not sure their. I hope story wise and because of Solas for a Executor.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 9, 2024 18:14:43 GMT
Well, there you go. All 7 companions right there in the trailer.
I'm kind of surprised by the 2M/2W/3R ratio
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 9, 2024 19:02:36 GMT
Well, there you go. All 7 companions right there in the trailer. I'm kind of surprised by the 2M/2W/3R ratio I feel the trailer sort of implies that the PC might also be a rogue... I wouldn't be surprised if the troop will be rogue-heavy, it sort of harkens back to the original plans for DA4 when it was supposed to be a heist-style thing.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 9, 2024 19:04:40 GMT
Well now we have all our 7 companions. What do you think about this selection? I don´t know. Sure its great to be right on Harding but the rest i need more informations. I not gonna lie i kinda miss another familiar face. Ok ok i say it out loud i miss Calpernia in the roster. Maevaris would also have been nice but that´s life. In my case i win (Harding) and lose (Calpernia and / or Maevaris) at the same time.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 9, 2024 19:05:12 GMT
I doubt the PC is going to be locked into a specific class. More likely, they heavily garbed them in a hood and mask to maintain the idea that they could be anybody
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 9, 2024 19:19:09 GMT
Well now we have all our 7 companions. What do you think about this selection? I don´t know. Sure its great to be right on Harding but the rest i need more informations. I not gonna lie i kinda miss another familiar face. Ok ok i say it out loud i miss Calpernia in the roster. Maevaris would also have been nice but that´s life. In my case i win (Harding) and lose (Calpernia and / or Maevaris) at the same time. I don't feel badly that any speculations from before didn't arrive in reality. I'm pleased for Harding, of course. Neve doesn't surprise me. She seemed pretty important to Varric and Harding's operation following The Missing. Though she might have just been an important NPC Lucanis seems like a good fit. A former Crow is almost more interesting and less morally ambiguous than a current Crow member. If the PC can be a Crow, that would make for some narrative conflict. Emmerich is likely from Nevarra, like Cassandra, instead of Tevinter. His necromantic activities are intriguing in that light. I don't have a good read on Taash. She seems like a Tal Vashoth or Vashoth. I liked the promise of a female Qunari better when it seemed like she might be a rogue or mage. Bellara, as a Veil Jumper, is going to have some interesting perspectives on Solas, the Fade, and cities. Davrin. I didn't expect to love this guy. His Griffin companion (and the idea that they work together in combat) makes him so much more interesting than just a stock Grey Warden.
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Post by Little Bengel on Jun 9, 2024 19:21:17 GMT
I'm guessing Taash will be the Lords of Fortune representative.
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Post by sloth on Jun 9, 2024 19:28:29 GMT
Well now we have all our 7 companions. What do you think about this selection? I don´t know. Sure its great to be right on Harding but the rest i need more informations. I not gonna lie i kinda miss another familiar face. Ok ok i say it out loud i miss Calpernia in the roster. Maevaris would also have been nice but that´s life. In my case i win (Harding) and lose (Calpernia and / or Maevaris) at the same time. Well, it is nice to finally have Harding as a companion. Emmrich was cool, but really was hoping that Myrna from the same Tevinter Nights story would be a companion, she seemed awesome. But I'm guessing that she and Audric will appear somehow. Neve seemed cool in The Missing, but I didn't finish Tevinter Nights, so I don't know about her personality there. Still not really sure about the others, though. The trailer didn't give too much to analyze.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 9, 2024 19:38:10 GMT
I don't feel badly that any speculations from before didn't arrive in reality. Well i do. I still think and even at & after the release will say that the not companion status of Calpernia and Maevaris are a miss opportunity. I know that this coming but i don´t know the final game. That´s true but this won´t change my view on those.
After all these years i still believe that Cullen would have been a more interessting companion than Blackwall but Cullen still gets plenty of screentime.
1. Harding = Rogue Companion 2. Neve = Mage 3. Lucanis = Rogue 4. Bellara= ??? 5. Emmrich = Mage 6. Davrin = Warrior 7. Taash = Warrior or Rogue?
Could be Bellara her own unique class as Veil jumper and is Taash a Warrior or Rogue?
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Post by smilesja on Jun 9, 2024 19:39:06 GMT
Harding will be a day one romance. I do like the rest of the characters especially Emmrich always nice to have a necromancer companion! The Rift girl looked cool as well!
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 9, 2024 19:43:52 GMT
Emmrich always nice to have a necromancer companion! It´s finally nice to have one. I don´t saw Dorian as classic necromancer like Emmrich but more like i don´t know spirit mage?
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 9, 2024 19:44:13 GMT
I don't feel badly that any speculations from before didn't arrive in reality. Well i do. I still think and even at & after the release will say that the not companion status of Calpernia and Maevaris are a miss opportunity. I know that this coming but i don´t know the final game. That´s true but this won´t change my view on those.
After all these years i still believe that Cullen would have been a more interessting companion than Blackwall but Cullen still gets plenty of screentime.
1. Harding = Rogue Companion 2. Neve = Mage 3. Lucanis = Rogue 4. Bellara= ??? 5. Emmrich = Mage 6. Davrin = Warrior 7. Taash = Warrior or Rogue?
Could be Bellara her own unique class as Veil jumper and is Taash a Warrior or Rogue?
This is why it's good not to be too emotionally attached to early theories. It leads to heartbreak. My take is that Bellara is a rogue and Taash is a warrior. Taash is wearing scale armor, after all. It's odd that we have 3 rogues instead of 3 mages, but here we are. Maybe Bellara has some magic abilities to mix with her archery.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 9, 2024 19:49:19 GMT
Well now we have all our 7 companions. What do you think about this selection? Awesome. Love it. Got Harding in there, so great about that. Got Davrin, so that's good too as I've always liked the sound of him as a genuine Grey Warden. Surprised that Bellara is a Veil Jumper but that's okay as she sounded good too in the Behind the Scenes Video and that shows these characters have been worked on for 4 years because most of the others come from Tevinter Nights. Lucanis - great, I really wanted him. Neve also great because she is not an Altus but a regular sort of mage. Emmerich is also from Tevinter Nights and is a high ranking Mortalitasi. That just leaves Taash as someone totally new and that is great too.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 9, 2024 19:51:03 GMT
This is why it's good not to be too emotionally attached to early theories. It leads to heartbreak. Come on after all these years we have all your theories and wishes. That´s totally ok. I see Taash as very classic DAO dual warrior type and not the DA 2 and DAI rogue because of 2 weapons in hand limitation. Bellara could be rogue but she feels from all the characters more different. Maybe she is a jack of all trades aka bit Warrior, rogue and mage in one.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 9, 2024 19:52:56 GMT
I have to admit I got a bit emotional when I got to the end of the trailer because it really looks like they are going to deliver on the game and there isn't a single companion that I wouldn't want on my team. Seems like our PC is the strange robed figure (masked too in the trailer). Can't wait to find out more about them.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 9, 2024 19:54:29 GMT
ir.ea.com/press-releases/press-release-details/2024/Unite-a-Team-of-Heroes-to-Defeat-Rampaging-Elven-Gods-in-Dragon-Age-The-Veilguard-Arriving-in-Fall-2024/default.aspxHold up. LACE HAS MAGIC POWERS!? From the press release Bellara, a creative and romantic Veil Jumper obsessed with uncovering ancient secrets. Davrin, a bold and charming Grey Warden who has made a name for himself as a monster hunter. Emmrich, a necromancer of Nevarra's Mourn Watch who comes complete with a skeletal assistant, Manfred. Harding, the dwarven scout, returns to the fray as a companion with her big heart, a positive outlook, and a ready bow – as well as unexpected magical powers. Lucanis, a poised & pragmatic assassin who descends from the bloodline of the House of Crows, a criminal organization renowned throughout Thedas. Neve, a cynic fighting for a better future, both as a private detective and a member of Tevinter's rebellious Shadow Dragons. Taash, a dragon hunter allied with the Lords of Fortune who lives for adventure and doesn't mind taking risks.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 9, 2024 19:54:50 GMT
Could be Bellara her own unique class as Veil jumper and is Taash a Warrior or Rogue? I think Bellara could definitely be the hybrid companion, probably that Arcane Archer we've seen in an earlier trailer, so combines rogue skills with that of a mage and probably more besides.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Jun 9, 2024 19:56:01 GMT
Got Davrin, so that's good too as I've always liked the sound of him as a genuine Grey Warden. He is like Blackwall before the one companion i really don´t care. I have to wonder what sets him apart of the other Wardens besides been a black elven warden and having a Griffon. The more i think about her i would prefer Calpernia over her. Sorry but atleast i been honest here.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 9, 2024 19:56:21 GMT
There we go, straight from the horse's mouth (EA) Bellara, a creative and romantic Veil Jumper obsessed with uncovering ancient secrets. Davrin, a bold and charming Grey Warden who has made a name for himself as a monster hunter. Emmrich, a necromancer of Nevarra's Mourn Watch who comes complete with a skeletal assistant, Manfred. Harding, the dwarven scout, returns to the fray as a companion with her big heart, a positive outlook, and a ready bow – as well as unexpected magical powers. Lucanis, a poised & pragmatic assassin who descends from the bloodline of the House of Crows, a criminal organization renowned throughout Thedas. Neve, a cynic fighting for a better future, both as a private detective and a member of Tevinter's rebellious Shadow Dragons. Taash, a dragon hunter allied with the Lords of Fortune who lives for adventure and doesn't mind taking risks.
So I'm assuming Manfred will be a bit like dog in DA2
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jun 9, 2024 19:57:54 GMT
I'm shocked that Lace of all people has magic powers.
The blurb about Bellara seeking ancient secrets reminds me of Solas in DAI. No likey
Taash is the LoF. Not unexpected.
Emmrich has a skelly servant. Amusing
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