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Post by Fredward on Jul 26, 2018 12:38:54 GMT
I was initially completely opposed to the idea of a dual protag and still am, mostly. I want a protagonist enmeshed with within the culture of Tevinter in a way which the Inquisitor, as an outsider with their own ideas and frames of references on what really matters, simply wouldn't/couldn't be reasonably RPed to be. But! I absolutely adore the idea of putting my two protagonists at cross purposes. Imagine a female Lavellan madly in love with Solas and wishing to redeem him vs a Tevinter protag convinced of his evilness and that the Inquisitor has become irrevocably compromised. You primarily play the new protagonist but make these big choices for your Inquisitor, if your two protags are facing off at the end you choose which to play as and they kill the other. I live for this kind of drama and it kind of feels like an intuitive extension of what you can do with multiple, overlapping protagonists in a shared setting.
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Post by Sanunes on Jul 26, 2018 12:42:05 GMT
I wasn't a huge fan of The Inquisitor it felt like they were a cardboard cutout so I have no real attachment to them since they could be one of multiple races so the majority of the time they were standing still blankly staring a head talking through people. Since there isn't that much known about the next game I am not even sure if having The Inquisitor return make any sense not to mention if anything could happen to them during the DLC. Its like The Warden in a lot of ways, there is a one in four chance that your Warden didn't make it through the main game alive so having BioWare try and a game that honors you playing the same character, but only for some characters would be almost requiring them to write a lot of the dialogue twice one when they know you from the first game and a second time for when you didn't survive the final encounter.
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Post by wickedcool on Jul 26, 2018 14:36:39 GMT
My main wish is da4. I want connections to dai and past games. My guess is it won’t be the same hero
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Post by Max Deltree on Jul 26, 2018 15:28:01 GMT
I think it's funny that when Dragon Age 2 come about, people demanded the Warden to be the protagonist instead of a new one. When Inquisition was about, people demanded to play with Hawke again. The next Dragon Age will have a new main character (hopefully with a bigger cameo by the Inquisitor, like Hawke), but we will grow to love him like we loved all our mains.
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jul 26, 2018 16:42:46 GMT
I like having a new protagonist each game. It helps keep things fresh and there isn't as much baggage from previous games.
I'd be fine with dual protagonists as well but ideally the new protagonist would have a much bigger role than the Inquisitor. After Trespasser it would be weird not to have the Inquisitor involved in some way, but I don't want them to be the primary focus.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 16:56:00 GMT
I think it's funny that when Dragon Age 2 come about, people demanded the Warden to be the protagonist instead of a new one. When Inquisition was about, people demanded to play with Hawke again. The next Dragon Age will have a new main character (hopefully with a bigger cameo by the Inquisitor, like Hawke), but we will grow to love him like we loved all our mains. 'Hawke is shit' ... 'Why can't we be Hawke in Inquisition?!?!'
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Post by Walter Black on Jul 26, 2018 18:00:43 GMT
I think it's funny that when Dragon Age 2 come about, people demanded the Warden to be the protagonist instead of a new one. When Inquisition was about, people demanded to play with Hawke again. The next Dragon Age will have a new main character (hopefully with a bigger cameo by the Inquisitor, like Hawke), but we will grow to love him like we loved all our mains. 'Hawke is shit' ... 'Why can't we be Hawke in Inquisition?!?!' When I went through my own "Hawke should have been the Inquisitor" phase, it was mostly a hope that Bioware could learn from their mistakes, instead of simply throwing out the baby with the bathwater. That Hawke could become more proactive and adaptable, and nuanced enough to express more than 3 emotional extremes .
As to the topic at hand, while my preference would be dual protagonists, if I had to pick I would choose New Guy. The ability to explore Tevinter through the eyes of one who lives and/or was raised there, with connections and family the player could actually interact with this time*, is a role playing experience that the Inquisitor cannot provide. Even if a new protagonist is a blank slate, it still makes a fresh start and allows players to craft completely different stories. The Inquisitor is held back by the same history and choices, friends and romances**. The only way I would even consider playing DA4 with an Inquisitor-only PC is if they can actually express some passion and get their hands really dirty this time.
*My preferred DA4 new protagonist would be to start as a slave to the Archon; high enough to be acquainted with the major players, but still low enough to have to truly work for our new status and resources.
**I've noticed how a lot of people who want Inky as DA4's protagonist were either completely satisfied with their Inquisition romances, or expect to see them again anyway (Dorian or Solas). But what about those who weren't satisfied, or simply want new lovers with new characters? Should their PC's be forced to remain alone or cheat, just so you can keep the Inquisitor? Should new PCs be denied family interactions, just because the Inquisitor got screwed by the War Table?
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Post by TabithaTH on Jul 26, 2018 18:16:33 GMT
I agree that if it wasn’t for trespasser, I wouldn’t need my Inquisitor at all. I want a new PC to be the focus and I can accept if Solas isn’t the main villain (As long as it’s a pretty lengthy side quest and NOT a DLC). I don't feel the need to play as my Inquisitor unless it's mainly conversation choices. Honestly I only need this for a confrontation with Solas and possibly if there’s going to be any disagreements with the new PC. My main concern is also the recreation of my character, especially since they had scars/tatoos which will most likely be different than the ones available in a new cc.
On a different note, if you want to be evil, then how about a Tevinter Magister who wants Solas’ powers for themselves?
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Post by boxofscreaming on Jul 26, 2018 19:28:50 GMT
I want Nick and Jo back...
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Post by colfoley on Jul 26, 2018 19:32:46 GMT
I think the Inquisitor will be back, but like Hawke last time. Has to be a character creator if DAI wasn't coded for export. Ugh you're probably right
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 26, 2018 19:46:04 GMT
Don't know how useful One Armed Inq would be in a fight if he/she returned.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 26, 2018 19:54:51 GMT
Don't know how useful One Armed Inq would be in a fight if he/she returned. Get them a prosthetic limb. Bioware has played with the idea in Dragon Age before. Could even explain why we start at Level 1 again: need to relearn how to fight.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 26, 2018 19:58:05 GMT
Don't know how useful One Armed Inq would be in a fight if he/she returned. Get them a prosthetic limb. Bioware has played with the idea in Dragon Age before. Could even explain why we start at Level 1 again: need to relearn how to fight. Wait, I feel like we had this talk before...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 26, 2018 19:58:48 GMT
Get them a prosthetic limb. Bioware has played with the idea in Dragon Age before. Could even explain why we start at Level 1 again: need to relearn how to fight. Wait, I feel like we had this talk before... Probably.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 26, 2018 20:08:02 GMT
Wait, I feel like we had this talk before... Probably. Also I wanna point this out, does DA even have prosthetic limbs? Because I am pretty sure a culturally backwards world like Thadas would not know how to make an advanced prosthetic limb that was made for combat.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 26, 2018 20:16:01 GMT
Also I wanna point this out, does DA even have prosthetic limbs? Because I am pretty sure a culturally backwards world like Thadas would not know how to make an advanced prosthetic limb that was made for combat. We know they do. The Inquisitor even has a very complex contraption as one if they romanced Sera. Dragon Age has proven to be more technologically advanced than our medieval time period(which also had rare combat-capable prosthetics), mostly due to dwarves and qunari.
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Post by Son of Dorn on Jul 26, 2018 20:23:37 GMT
Also I wanna point this out, does DA even have prosthetic limbs? Because I am pretty sure a culturally backwards world like Thadas would not know how to make an advanced prosthetic limb that was made for combat. We know they do. The Inquisitor even has a very complex contraption as one if they romanced Sera. That crossbow looking thing? What about if the Inq uses a two handed weapon or daggers. How will they be able to use that? Also how will Inq be able to use a staff if they are a mage if they have a crossbow prosthetic arm?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 20:24:18 GMT
I'd rather have a protagonist who has history with Tevinter or Par Vollen, it would be much more interesting than someone from the Free Marches going over there and telling them all off.
I'd still like the IQ to play a significant role though, like Leliana or Cullen in IQ.
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Post by themikefest on Jul 26, 2018 20:24:25 GMT
Find a giant, cut its arm off, and attach it to the Inquisitor. Now Inquisitor has a new skill tree. Talent could be arm smash, pick up enemy and throw him/her away. Hold button for 5 seconds to have a super smash causing extra damage. The sweep talent. Inquisitor spins around knocking the baddies to the ground. As a rogue, can have a two-handed sword in the hand while having a longsword in the other hand. Grab a baddie to force him/her to give information.
Have Dagna make the Inquisitor a mechanical arm.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 26, 2018 20:27:09 GMT
We know they do. The Inquisitor even has a very complex contraption as one if they romanced Sera. That crossbow looking thing? What about if the Inq uses a two handed weapon or daggers. How will they be able to use that? Also how will Inq be able to use a staff if they are a mage if they have a crossbow prosthetic arm? The crossbow grappling hook contraption was just an example to show that the technology is there. As I added to my post, Thedas due to the dwarves and qunari are more advanced the medieval Europe. Plus magic could help. Even discounting those things, in our own history we had prosthetics that could be used for various things from combat to riding to even writing. They were just extremely rare.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Jul 26, 2018 20:36:29 GMT
I think it's funny that when Dragon Age 2 come about, people demanded the Warden to be the protagonist instead of a new one. When Inquisition was about, people demanded to play with Hawke again. The next Dragon Age will have a new main character (hopefully with a bigger cameo by the Inquisitor, like Hawke), but we will grow to love him like we loved all our mains. Meh I never had any great connection to my Warden, and Hawke was just a bit higher. My Inquisitor is my favorite character by far and it is specifically because of the way that game was done -- voiced PC (which I only mention as it's different from DAO), nearly blank-slate origin, more neutral personality.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 26, 2018 20:39:05 GMT
Thedas has always been a bit anachronistic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 20:46:35 GMT
Find a giant, cut its arm off, and attach it to the Inquisitor. Now Inquisitor has a new skill tree. Talent could be arm smash, pick up enemy and throw him/her away. Hold button for 5 seconds to have a super smash causing extra damage. The sweep talent. Inquisitor spins around knocking the baddies to the ground. As a rogue, can have a two-handed sword in the hand while having a longsword in the other hand. Grab a baddie to force him/her to give information. Have Dagna make the Inquisitor a mechanical arm. How about....make the IQ a dwarf, in love with Bull, then he or she can sit on his shoulders and poke people's eyes out with a stick in the heat of battle.
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Post by BearKingReborn on Jul 26, 2018 20:48:28 GMT
Find a giant, cut its arm off, and attach it to the Inquisitor. Now Inquisitor has a new skill tree. Talent could be arm smash, pick up enemy and throw him/her away. Hold button for 5 seconds to have a super smash causing extra damage. The sweep talent. Inquisitor spins around knocking the baddies to the ground. As a rogue, can have a two-handed sword in the hand while having a longsword in the other hand. Grab a baddie to force him/her to give information. Have Dagna make the Inquisitor a mechanical arm. How about....make the IQ a dwarf, in love with Bull, then he or she can sit on his shoulders and poke people's eyes out with a stick in the heat of battle. Sure - that's how you would do it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2018 20:55:12 GMT
How about....make the IQ a dwarf, in love with Bull, then he or she can sit on his shoulders and poke people's eyes out with a stick in the heat of battle. Sure - that's how you would do it! Kneel down a second, I just got myself a stick.
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