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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 27, 2018 1:58:36 GMT
I'd rather have a protagonist who has history with Tevinter or Par Vollen, it would be much more interesting than someone from the Free Marches going over there and telling them all off. Well, the PC has usually been an outsider in the first 3 games (pretty much everyone is except Cousland), so being one again wouldn't be unusual in the least. I worry if we are a native/insider that we'll be forced into one side or the other, without a choice in the matter. Kind of like how, even as an outsider in DAI, we're still forced to support the Chantry and destroy the Inquisition in the end.
And even the Cousland origin had us be a sheltered younger sibling so even they were kind of an outsider. Yeah, I really hope we aren't forced to support either Tevinter or the Qun.
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Post by Tittus on Jul 27, 2018 2:33:50 GMT
To tell the truth, my biggest issue with the Inquisitor returning as a protagonist is the romance. I have 3 or 4 world stats that I want to use and I don't want to skip content or make my inquisitor cheat.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 27, 2018 2:37:42 GMT
To tell the truth, my biggest issue with the Inquisitor returning as a protagonist is the romance. I have 3 or 4 world stats that I want to use and I don't want to skip content or make my inquisitor cheat. What content would you skip that you wouldn't skip by romancing someone in this game thus not the others?
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Post by colfoley on Jul 27, 2018 2:56:58 GMT
Well, the PC has usually been an outsider in the first 3 games (pretty much everyone is except Cousland), so being one again wouldn't be unusual in the least. I worry if we are a native/insider that we'll be forced into one side or the other, without a choice in the matter. Kind of like how, even as an outsider in DAI, we're still forced to support the Chantry and destroy the Inquisition in the end.
And even the Cousland origin had us be a sheltered younger sibling so even they were kind of an outsider. Yeah, I really hope we aren't forced to support either Tevinter or the Qun. do you mean that you don't want the choice forcing you between the two? Or that the game will automatically make you choose one over the other?
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Post by Tittus on Jul 27, 2018 3:01:52 GMT
To tell the truth, my biggest issue with the Inquisitor returning as a protagonist is the romance. I have 3 or 4 world stats that I want to use and I don't want to skip content or make my inquisitor cheat. What content would you skip that you wouldn't skip by romancing someone in this game thus not the others? But I would get that content with someone. As a roleplay perspective, I understand that this is just a choice and we're taking that option over the others, but I still feel like skipping something. It would be a bit of a bummer, but I could work with that.
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Post by melbella on Jul 27, 2018 3:37:14 GMT
And even the Cousland origin had us be a sheltered younger sibling so even they were kind of an outsider. Yeah, I really hope we aren't forced to support either Tevinter or the Qun. do you mean that you don't want the choice forcing you between the two? Or that the game will automatically make you choose one over the other?
A choice between the two, if we could actually choose (like mages/Templars) wouldn't be as bad has having a precondition of siding with one over the other because of background. But I'd also like an option to side with and/or sabotage both/all sides, kind of like Briala was doing in the Orlesian civil war. I want any alliances, or lack thereof, to be my choice and my consequence, not just "how the story is written."
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Post by colfoley on Jul 27, 2018 3:43:29 GMT
do you mean that you don't want the choice forcing you between the two? Or that the game will automatically make you choose one over the other?
A choice between the two, if we could actually choose (like mages/Templars) wouldn't be as bad has having a precondition of siding with one over the other because of background. But I'd also like an option to side with and/or sabotage both/all sides, kind of like Briala was doing in the Orlesian civil war. I want any alliances, or lack thereof, to be my choice and my consequence, not just "how the story is written."
THat'd be a twist. Crippling both Tevinter and the Qunari in one fell swoop because frak those guys.
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 27, 2018 3:45:45 GMT
To tell the truth, my biggest issue with the Inquisitor returning as a protagonist is the romance. I have 3 or 4 world stats that I want to use and I don't want to skip content or make my inquisitor cheat. What content would you skip that you wouldn't skip by romancing someone in this game thus not the others? Maybe thinking of an ME2 situation? Many Inquisitors would come in with extant LIs.
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Post by melbella on Jul 27, 2018 3:51:31 GMT
What content would you skip that you wouldn't skip by romancing someone in this game thus not the others? Maybe thinking of an ME2 situation? Many Inquisitors would come in with extant LIs.
Given the likelihood of using the keep again for imports, I don't see the issue. Import your romance or don't. Try it both ways or neither. Use the default state or a random one and see what happens. It's a lot easier/faster to set up the keep than to replay all 3 games again. I just wish they'd add more world state slots - I have too many already!
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 27, 2018 5:07:10 GMT
And even the Cousland origin had us be a sheltered younger sibling so even they were kind of an outsider. Yeah, I really hope we aren't forced to support either Tevinter or the Qun. do you mean that you don't want the choice forcing you between the two? Or that the game will automatically make you choose one over the other? Well, to be honest both. Definitely not having the game automatically choose for you, but even having to choose one or the other is annoying. I much prefer situations like the Geth-Quarian War where if you work your butt off you can get both working together compared to the Mage-Templar War where you have to keep choosing only one.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 27, 2018 6:07:32 GMT
do you mean that you don't want the choice forcing you between the two? Or that the game will automatically make you choose one over the other? Well, to be honest both. Definitely not having the game automatically choose for you, but even having to choose one or the other is annoying. I much prefer situations like the Geth-Quarian War where if you work your butt off you can get both working together compared to the Mage-Templar War where you have to keep choosing only one. They did that with the Werewolves... and the Celene / Briala / Gaspard choice. My favorite thing with the last one that if you do the legwork getting them to work together is arguably the worse choice.
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Post by helios969 on Jul 27, 2018 10:30:07 GMT
Well it would be a first in the series, but, yes my preference is to continue with the Inquisitor. However, I do not think it happens. Mainly I do not see them doubling up on voice actors again for the game. My guess is (maybe) a cameo with us mainly working through intermediaries...perhaps even a companion such as Harding or Charter. Regardless I will play.
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Post by Tittus on Jul 27, 2018 11:44:06 GMT
Maybe thinking of an ME2 situation? Many Inquisitors would come in with extant LIs.
Given the likelihood of using the keep again for imports, I don't see the issue. Import your romance or don't. Try it both ways or neither. Use the default state or a random one and see what happens. It's a lot easier/faster to set up the keep than to replay all 3 games again. I just wish they'd add more world state slots - I have too many already!
This is good for replayability, but I like having a canon world state and the thought that I'm continuing that journey I started in DAO. I myself played those options that are in the keep and imported for each new game(well, there's a little cheat in DAI, since there's a impossible outcome)
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Post by warden on Jul 27, 2018 11:46:06 GMT
If the Inquisitor returns, i'll join the burn BioWare train.
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Post by fchopin on Jul 27, 2018 12:22:00 GMT
No.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Jul 27, 2018 12:52:48 GMT
No. Too much unnecessary Extra Work for Bioware. Its not impossible that the Inquisitor could return as protagnist but he/she has a lot of baggage that Bioware have to consider. Also i didn´t like Hawke in DAI (Hawke was a lot easier to bring back) therefore i would prefer if Inquisitor won´t appear at all.
Two Questions: I honestly believe that Dorian has a lot more Screentime in DA 4 than Solas. So whats the point of this magic crystal if they meet either way? And Corypheus Argument. I see Corypheus more as a Hawke Villian than for the Inquisitor. But at the End the Inquisitor stop him. So why shouldn´t a new Hero do the same in DA 4 against Solas if he is the Major Villian in this Game?
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jul 27, 2018 13:20:49 GMT
I don't really understand the whole 'inquisitor finished Hawke's villian' argument. Hawke did stop Corypheus. He was dead. The Hawke/Corypheus story was over. By the time Hawke found out he was back, he had apparently moved on and someone else was handling it.
Whereas Solas is still very much alive. No one has moved on from anything. Quite the opposite. The Inky/Solas story is far from finished.
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Post by isaidlunch on Jul 27, 2018 13:38:59 GMT
I don't mind as long as the Inquisitor plays a major role and appears when it's time to deal with Solas. I think it's much better this way - we get a new PC that actually comes from Tevinter (probably), a new set of companions, and we get the interesting possibilities that come with having two different PCs. The Tevinter PC and Solas siding together against the Inquisitor would be like a dream come true for me.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jul 27, 2018 13:50:10 GMT
No, mostly because I love all of my characters regardless of who they are would I have liked for Hawke to have had the possibility of being different races then just human? Yes...but that doesn't make me like Hawke any less I think it'll be interesting to see who our next protagonist will be, where they come from, what their abilities are etc. seeing as our protagonists are following a trend of coming from the previous country where the last game took place (Quizzy is from the Free Marches, Hawke was from Ferelden etc.) it might be that they are from Orlais...though I hope not, I want my character to be a Magister but I wouldn't mind for the Inquisitor to make an appearance in one way or another though my Quizzy is going to be happily married in Ferelden somewhere ...that is if the game acknowledges that part, I sure hope they do
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Post by alanc9 on Jul 27, 2018 16:22:50 GMT
Maybe thinking of an ME2 situation? Many Inquisitors would come in with extant LIs.
Given the likelihood of using the keep again for imports, I don't see the issue. Import your romance or don't. Try it both ways or neither. Use the default state or a random one and see what happens. It's a lot easier/faster to set up the keep than to replay all 3 games again. I just wish they'd add more world state slots - I have too many already!
That would work for us, but a lot of people won't replay as often as we do, if they replay at all
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Post by Reznore on Jul 27, 2018 16:55:54 GMT
I don't really understand the whole 'inquisitor finished Hawke's villian' argument. Hawke did stop Corypheus. He was dead. The Hawke/Corypheus story was over. By the time Hawke found out he was back, he had apparently moved on and someone else was handling it. Whereas Solas is still very much alive. No one has moved on from anything. Quite the opposite. The Inky/Solas story is far from finished. Because storywise, Cory wasn't dead. He tricked Hawke and co into thinking he was. Hawke didn't move on from the story ,he was hiding from the Chantry, who wanted him at the conclave to appease mage and templar. Conclave that ends up blown up by Cory. I think Hawke is busy looking after red lyrium with the wardens, meanwhile via Bianca, Cory found red lyrium and bathed in it. The moment, the Inquisition finds out about Cory being Cory, Hawke is found in Skyhold because he may have some information to help with the whole Cory thing. So Hawke, ex hero, has been doing thing in parallel to Cory for months. Luckyly for Hawke they kept on missing each others...and Hawke story ends with him walking to the Anderfels.
It's not a super satisfying arc, and one of the weak point of multi protag and ongoing story cliffangers and overlaps.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Jul 27, 2018 17:40:09 GMT
I don't really understand the whole 'inquisitor finished Hawke's villian' argument. Hawke did stop Corypheus. He was dead. The Hawke/Corypheus story was over. By the time Hawke found out he was back, he had apparently moved on and someone else was handling it. Whereas Solas is still very much alive. No one has moved on from anything. Quite the opposite. The Inky/Solas story is far from finished. Because storywise, Cory wasn't dead. He tricked Hawke and co into thinking he was. Hawke didn't move on from the story ,he was hiding from the Chantry, who wanted him at the conclave to appease mage and templar. Conclave that ends up blown up by Cory. I think Hawke is busy looking after red lyrium with the wardens, meanwhile via Bianca, Cory found red lyrium and bathed in it. The moment, the Inquisition finds out about Cory being Cory, Hawke is found in Skyhold because he may have some information to help with the whole Cory thing. So Hawke, ex hero, has been doing thing in parallel to Cory for months. Luckyly for Hawke they kept on missing each others...and Hawke story ends with him walking to the Anderfels.
It's not a super satisfying arc, and one of the weak point of multi protag and ongoing story cliffangers and overlaps.
I guess I'm just looking at it differently. As far as Hawke knew, Cory was dead. Done. No further involvement from Hawke was necessary. Now, if Hawke had seen Cory be resurrected, and then had personally vowed to finish the job again (as the Inky has vowed to be responsible for Solas) , then we could say that Inky 'finished Hawke's villian'. But as it stands, by the time Inquisition comes around, Cory is no longer 'Hawke's villian'. Hawke made no further commitment to Cory after killing him the first time. The fact that Hawke helped the Inky with the Nighmare demon was nice, but Hawke was under no obligation to do so. But this is getting off topic, so if you want to continue this discussion, feel free to make a new thread.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Jul 27, 2018 19:02:52 GMT
Hawke made no further commitment to Cory after killing him the first time. The fact that Hawke helped the Inky with the Nighmare demon was nice, but Hawke was under no obligation to do so. Well Hawke seems to see it different. Hawke: "A Warden must Help Them rebuild! That´s Your Job!" "Corypheus is Mine." And when Hawke went to Anderfels.
Back to Solas. I find it more than obvious that last Lines of the Trespasser DLC means that Someone else can also do the Job (with a little Help of the Inquisition like Charter and Harding) Leliana: "Solas knows everything about us. Who we are, how we work, our Strenghts and Weaknesses..." The Inquisitor: "Then we find People he doesn´t know" "We will save our friend from himself... If we Can." or "We will stop Solas by any means necessary" Stabs a Knife in the map of Tevinter.
I always had the impression that the meaning of the Scene was that Harding (Or whats the point of having her in the last Scene?)
will recruit the new Hero and represent the Inquisition/Inquisitor in the DA 4 Party. And Charter will support Harding as the new Inquisition Spymaster.
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Post by simit on Jul 27, 2018 20:48:28 GMT
Just a thought, dual pc which included the inquisitor would mean 3 VA per gender
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 27, 2018 20:59:34 GMT
Just a thought, dual pc which included the inquisitor would mean 3 VA per gender However it would be broken up to where each would be speaking in only half the game or however it is broken up. So really looking at all the costs and lines it would be either the same or even cheaper if the new PC only had one voice per sex then having the same character with two VAs speaking throughout.
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