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Post by quole on Aug 26, 2018 0:18:13 GMT
I don't recall this even being answered in MEA and I have always wanted to know. Now, we all know the the REAL reason we went to Andromeda (because ME3 fucked the franchise) but was there ever a legitimate lore reason? And please don't tell me it was exploration as that would be completely asinine.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 26, 2018 0:27:30 GMT
There were two reasons discussed in the game.
The first one was the public one, which was it was simply people wanting to go explore another galaxy.
The second one was the secret one, which was revealed during the Family Secrets quest, which was the Mysterious Benefactor funding it to get people to Andromeda to avoid something terrible they saw coming, which we know as the Reaper invasion. There is more to the Mysterious Benefactor, but that will be revealed in the megastory that takes place over the games.
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Post by quole on Aug 26, 2018 1:38:21 GMT
There were two reasons discussed in the game. The first one was the public one, which was it was simply people wanting to go explore another galaxy. The second one was the secret one, which was revealed during the Family Secrets quest, which was the Mysterious Benefactor funding it to get people to Andromeda to avoid something terrible they saw coming, which we know as the Reaper invasion. There is more to the Mysterious Benefactor, but that will be revealed in the megastory that takes place over the games. Ah well the reaper invasion makes sense. Exploration on the other hand does not considering most of the Milky Way was still unexplored. And I'm guessing the mysterious benefactor was cerberus because Bioware is creatively bankrupt. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 26, 2018 1:51:08 GMT
There were two reasons discussed in the game. The first one was the public one, which was it was simply people wanting to go explore another galaxy. The second one was the secret one, which was revealed during the Family Secrets quest, which was the Mysterious Benefactor funding it to get people to Andromeda to avoid something terrible they saw coming, which we know as the Reaper invasion. There is more to the Mysterious Benefactor, but that will be revealed in the megastory that takes place over the games. Ah well the reaper invasion makes sense. Exploration on the other hand does not considering most of the Milky Way was still unexplored. And I'm guessing the mysterious benefactor was cerberus because Bioware is creatively bankrupt. We don't know who the Mysterious Benefactor is. They may not even be a single person but a group. I don't think it is Cerberus though since it is implied they came to Andromeda with the Initiative plus they aren't just helping humanity but aliens too. |
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Post by ahglock on Aug 26, 2018 4:52:20 GMT
Before the game, I always assumed the Asari were backing it. 1. There is the somewhat nod in ME3. 2 most of the races/groups of power would not include other races they are just as crappy as cerberus. 3. The Asari would include other races, not out of benevolence but because there reproduction is dependent on it.
After the game maybe, who knows.
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Post by Sanunes on Aug 26, 2018 7:12:51 GMT
There were two reasons discussed in the game. The first one was the public one, which was it was simply people wanting to go explore another galaxy. The second one was the secret one, which was revealed during the Family Secrets quest, which was the Mysterious Benefactor funding it to get people to Andromeda to avoid something terrible they saw coming, which we know as the Reaper invasion. There is more to the Mysterious Benefactor, but that will be revealed in the megastory that takes place over the games. Ah well the reaper invasion makes sense. Exploration on the other hand does not considering most of the Milky Way was still unexplored. And I'm guessing the mysterious benefactor was cerberus because Bioware is creatively bankrupt. Makes just as much sense then as us wanting to explore outer space when the majority of Earth hasn't been explored yet because its covered by water. |
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 26, 2018 9:09:40 GMT
I don't recall this even being answered in MEA and I have always wanted to know. Now, we all know the the REAL reason we went to Andromeda (because ME3 fucked the franchise) but was there ever a legitimate lore reason? And please don't tell me it was exploration as that would be completely asinine. This is a good question actually, because before launch the marketing material wasn't sure about this either and contained contradicting messages. Sometimes it was because Andromeda was so rich in resources, sometimes to find a new home for mankind, sometimes it was exploration, then it was resources again, and so on. It doesn't really matter that much because they all make about the same amount of sense. The one I'm most likely to buy is the preservation of humanity should the reapers really wipe out the Milky Way, but then we start killing each other again as soon as we get there and watch the "20,000 people" counter tick down while we crack questionable one-liners. Just roll with it and shoot wrinkly people in the face! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2018 12:15:32 GMT
In the end, I think the theme was the different people within the Initiative had different reasons (personal ones) for wanting to go. Jien wanted to explore and to personally do something amazing; and, being wealthy, she started the Initiative by simply funding it herself. She ran into financial trouble and took on the Mysterious Benefactor, who was aware of the Reaper threat and also wealthy (or backed by a government or military or criminal group) and funded the Initiative to provide a means of escaping the Reapers for a "select" group of people that may or may not have included himself/herself in the end. The Krogan clans who came along wanted a new start and also were a little different - embracing a different philosophy than the other Clans (keeping in mind this is likely before Wrex came into power or just as Wrex was coming into power). PeeBee came along because, much like Jien, she wanted to break entirely new ground scientifically. Alec Ryder joined to get the money to finish the device he hoped would save his wife and then even took the step of putting her into cryo early and bringing her along under an assumed name. A lot of "raider types" apparently came along because they felt they would be able to operate without worrying about laws. There are a multitude of reasons presented in the lore.
It mirrors the multitudes of reasons for the migration to the New World.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2018 15:22:24 GMT
Plan B, in case the Reaper invasion and harvest succeeded. Cemented with the line "we're going to be all that's left of civilization".
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Post by alanc9 on Aug 28, 2018 16:19:45 GMT
In ME2, people wanting to get out from under the Citadel and the Alliance was a thing. It's not hard to put together some thousands of malcontents out of a population of billions.
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Post by cypherj on Aug 28, 2018 21:42:05 GMT
I don't think there was one, at least not initially. I think it was really just for hell of it we're going to travel 600 years to colonize planets in another galaxy.
The benefactor stepping in and saving the project may have been due to the reapers, but based on the timeline of events it's inception wasn't.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Sept 1, 2018 13:05:55 GMT
Reapers. Mam that's hard to spell.
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Post by Serza on Sept 1, 2018 14:52:01 GMT
All things considered, The Illusive Man being the Benefactor is right now probably the only possibility.
Could always claim it was Kahlee Sanders or David Anderson, but even THEY lack something to match the profile. Plus you can bet your arse Saren Arterius was nowhere near the Benefactor.
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Post by traks on Sept 1, 2018 15:58:24 GMT
The illusive man makes no sense, because a man that thinks he can't lose doesn't make backup plans. He would also not back anything where he can't gain any personal advantage. BTW: we know that it is not the Illusive man, because the benefactor is in Andromeda and is female: bsn.boards.net/post/864634/thread |
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Post by cloud9 on Sept 2, 2018 4:58:18 GMT
I don't recall this even being answered in MEA and I have always wanted to know. Now, we all know the the REAL reason we went to Andromeda (because ME3 fucked the franchise) but was there ever a legitimate lore reason? And please don't tell me it was exploration as that would be completely asinine. Yep! They fucked up the ending so they want to create a rehashed story of ME1 on a different galaxy, but ended up even worse than before. BioWare are a bunch of fuck-ups at this point. |
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Post by KaiserShep on Sept 3, 2018 6:48:30 GMT
Ah well the reaper invasion makes sense. Exploration on the other hand does not considering most of the Milky Way was still unexplored. And I'm guessing the mysterious benefactor was cerberus because Bioware is creatively bankrupt. We don't know who the Mysterious Benefactor is. They may not even be a single person but a group. I don't think it is Cerberus though since it is implied they came to Andromeda with the Initiative plus they aren't just helping humanity but aliens too. I wouldn’t even say implied. We get to meet [former?] Cerberus agents that were experimenting on exiles. |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 3, 2018 6:51:07 GMT
We don't know who the Mysterious Benefactor is. They may not even be a single person but a group. I don't think it is Cerberus though since it is implied they came to Andromeda with the Initiative plus they aren't just helping humanity but aliens too. I wouldn’t even say implied. We get to meet [former?] Cerberus agents that were experimenting on exiles. By ‘they’ I was referring to the Mysterious Benefactor. Plus those Cerberus agents weren’t really Cerberus agents since messages on their computer say they were kicked out essentially. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 1:40:34 GMT
The real reason we went to Andromeda was because of artistic integrity...  |
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Post by quole on Sept 5, 2018 23:22:27 GMT
Ah well the reaper invasion makes sense. Exploration on the other hand does not considering most of the Milky Way was still unexplored. And I'm guessing the mysterious benefactor was cerberus because Bioware is creatively bankrupt. Makes just as much sense then as us wanting to explore outer space when the majority of Earth hasn't been explored yet because its covered by water. Uhhh no dude lol. That is a terrible false equivalency and you know it. Almost anything that could be in Andromeda could also be in the Milky Way. We know what's on earth and what it offers, we do not know at all what's in the rest of the galaxy. Also, I don't think you understand just how far of a distance Andromeda is from the Milky Way either. You would need a very good reason for going there. Exploration just does not cut it when that could already be done in our galaxy. There would be no reason to go there for the purpose of exploration when the Milky Way is already mostly unexplored. |
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Post by Sanunes on Sept 6, 2018 0:21:27 GMT
Makes just as much sense then as us wanting to explore outer space when the majority of Earth hasn't been explored yet because its covered by water. Uhhh no dude lol. That is a terrible false equivalency and you know it. Almost anything that could be in Andromeda could also be in the Milky Way. We know what's on earth and what it offers, we do not know at all what's in the rest of the galaxy. Also, I don't think you understand just how far of a distance Andromeda is from the Milky Way either. You would need a very good reason for going there. Exploration just does not cut it when that could already be done in our galaxy. There would be no reason to go there for the purpose of exploration when the Milky Way is already mostly unexplored. People want to take a one-way trip to Mars now for you had all those people sign up to be part of Mars One, so I think there would be plenty of people that would want to take the risk and go to Andromeda. We do not know everything that is one Earth there are plenty of species that could be in areas that we have no explored that could defy what we expect. |
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Post by quole on Sept 6, 2018 2:04:06 GMT
Uhhh no dude lol. That is a terrible false equivalency and you know it. Almost anything that could be in Andromeda could also be in the Milky Way. We know what's on earth and what it offers, we do not know at all what's in the rest of the galaxy. Also, I don't think you understand just how far of a distance Andromeda is from the Milky Way either. You would need a very good reason for going there. Exploration just does not cut it when that could already be done in our galaxy. There would be no reason to go there for the purpose of exploration when the Milky Way is already mostly unexplored. People want to take a one-way trip to Mars now for you had all those people sign up to be part of Mars One, so I think there would be plenty of people that would want to take the risk and go to Andromeda. We do not know everything that is one Earth there are plenty of species that could be in areas that we have no explored that could defy what we expect. Again, false equivalency. We know enough of what is on earth. A species here and there is nothing compared to what you could find on another planet. What about resources that are not abundant on earth? That's what another planet is for. And again anything you could find on a planet in Andromeda you could find on a planet in the Milky Way. There is literally no reason to go 'exploring' in another galaxy. You are literally traveling for 600 hundred years to do something you could do in this galaxy. Seriously, want to find a new planet to colonize? Want to look for resources? Meet new species of intelligent people? All of this could be done int he Milky Way and wouldnt have to travel for 600 years and waste however much money was spent to get to Andromeda. |
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Post by Vortex13 on Sept 6, 2018 14:23:13 GMT
Yeah outside of the Reapers there was really no reason to go to Andromeda. The idea of exploration being a major factor is laughable considering that >1% of the Milky Way galaxy has been explored or charted.
The helius cluster could have easily fit within the confines of our own galaxy and we still would have literal millions of stars left to see.
I don't really get the idea behind the argument that "the Milky Way is boring" in that regard. We've barley scratched a nanometer into surface of what's possible in our home galaxy.
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Post by alanc9 on Sept 6, 2018 16:15:20 GMT
Seriously, want to find a new planet to colonize? Want to look for resources? Meet new species of intelligent people? All of this could be done int he Milky Way and wouldnt have to travel for 600 years and waste however much money was spent to get to Andromeda. What you can't do in the MW is get out from under the Citadel regime. Even if they don't officially control your system, they can move in any time they wish. Note that the 600 years aren't a cost if you don't care what happens in the MW. |
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Post by melbella on Sept 7, 2018 1:55:13 GMT
anything you could find on a planet in Andromeda you could find on a planet in the Milky Way.
Are there angara in the Milky Way? What about remnant? Jardaan? Kett? No? But, you said we could find them there.... 
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Sept 7, 2018 2:59:53 GMT
There is one thing that going to Andromeda offers that staying in the Milky Way doesn't: story opportunities. There are opportunities with alien races that isn't possible in the Milky Way, for example the Jardaan plot since a race that advanced wouldn't have existed in the Milky Way due to the Reapers harvesting the galaxy every 50,000 years when civilization reaches a certain point. There are also character story possibilities with Andromeda that isn't an option in the Milky Way. A small example is part of Suvi's character where part of her regrets leaving since her entire family is dead now and she'll never see them again. She knew that, yet chose to sacrifice that for her love of pursuing science. If we stayed in the Milky Way, that part of her wouldn't exist.
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