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Post by leviathan on Oct 14, 2018 10:04:31 GMT
I’m making this thread because I haven’t seen any videos or other threads about it. It’s about the AI that you encounter on Vield. You have three options.m: kill it, give it to the Angarans, or give it to SAM as a weird romance friendship. In my first play through I killed it. You know... morals. In my second one, I give it to SAM to see what would happen. A node gets placed next to SAM and you learn that it has emotions. But let’s dig into this a bit.
My biggest question is where did she come from!?
1. The Angarans
The AI kills the Angara and screams “They are not my creator!” She adds that she predates the Angara. One interpretation could be that an ancient generation created her and she means that the current Angara did not literally create her. However, the Angara are an extremely young race compared to any of them in the Milky Way. No where do we see them with the capability to create an AI that complex. She is superior to even SAM as he says that she is dangerous and he can not decipher her encryptions. Her physical size is massive. It’s a cave about as large as a soccer field that goes deep into the ice farther than the eye can see. (About 20 feet into the ice) another reason I don’t think she is Angaran is because they value their history and even those weird cult Angarans who’s sole purpose is to record history, never mention her.
2. The Jaardan/Remnant
She resembles nothing of Remnant technology. Not one similarity. However, it is possible that the Jaardan created her before the Remnant. The Jaardan lived in the Heleous cluster in previous ages. Now they are advanced and trancendent. Maybe the AI is a relic of the Jaardans past before they left the cluster.
3. A different species all together.
This is unlikely, there’s no evidence of it, but I suppose it’s possible.
What do you guys think?!
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Oct 14, 2018 10:47:37 GMT
I was thinking about that AI the other day and was disappointed it ended up being an office decoration. I expected a big story, so many cool things could have come from that.
No idea where it came from but I'm interested in people's opinions.
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Post by leviathan on Oct 14, 2018 13:07:17 GMT
I was thinking about that AI the other day and was disappointed it ended up being an office decoration. I expected a big story, so many cool things could have come from that. No idea where it came from but I'm interested in people's opinions. So I just visited the node after crash landing on Meridian, and it’s gone. I’m sure it’s just a bug that they overlooked. Ive revisited the cave and there was nothing there. I doubt there will be anything different post Meridian |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 14, 2018 17:07:08 GMT
I was thinking about that AI the other day and was disappointed it ended up being an office decoration. I expected a big story, so many cool things could have come from that. No idea where it came from but I'm interested in people's opinions. If I recall correctly, BioWare in a Q&A said that there is more planned for the AI we find on Voeld. |
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Post by leviathan on Oct 14, 2018 22:58:33 GMT
I was thinking about that AI the other day and was disappointed it ended up being an office decoration. I expected a big story, so many cool things could have come from that. No idea where it came from but I'm interested in people's opinions. If I recall correctly, BioWare in a Q&A said that there is more planned for the AI we find on Voeld. Makes sense. I just hope they actually do something! I think it’s fair to say that if they were going to do a dlc, it would be done by now. I know everyone said they weren’t making any, but I still had hope. |
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 15, 2018 10:56:11 GMT
They're done with MEA. There won't be any more content.
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Post by alanc9 on Oct 15, 2018 16:34:21 GMT
I was thinking about that AI the other day and was disappointed it ended up being an office decoration. I expected a big story, so many cool things could have come from that. No idea where it came from but I'm interested in people's opinions. One of the hazards of OW games is that nothing that isn't on the critical path ever means anything. |
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Post by Quickpaw on Oct 16, 2018 0:08:20 GMT
I'm confused why she was willing to literally kill and die to prevent us from taking her out of that chamber. Like... she realizes if we leave her alone the Kett will come for her, right? We don't have the Angarapower to hold that location, and I fail to see what's so special about it that she would rather die than leave. I mean... we could just move her to the resistance base and leave her be, if that's what she wants. Maybe her solitude made her unstable, I don't know. She's not reacting rationally.
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Post by cypherj on Oct 16, 2018 12:25:27 GMT
Well, the Angarans nor the Jardaan are indigenous to Helius, so unless the Jardaan created the cluster from scratch there could have been an indigenous race there prior to the Angarans. Maybe that AI knows the history, or where they went. Were they wiped out to make room for the Angarans?
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Post by Atemporal Vanguardian-Debugger on Oct 18, 2018 18:12:32 GMT
I still feel a more compounding theory is that your 1-3 thoughts are all correct... and the same.
Except the part where the Angara and the Jardaan are seperate species...
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Post by link2twenty on Oct 22, 2018 8:49:00 GMT
I was thinking about that AI the other day and was disappointed it ended up being an office decoration. I expected a big story, so many cool things could have come from that. No idea where it came from but I'm interested in people's opinions. If I recall correctly, BioWare in a Q&A said that there is more planned for the AI we find on Voeld. I didn't do the AI mission until I had already done Meridian, it played out as normal apart from the AI wasn't on the Hyperion. |
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Post by Basquemercat117 on Oct 22, 2018 21:25:20 GMT
i would say more than likely its either really ancient angara or an unknown species that was there long before the remnant showed up
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Post by cypherj on Oct 22, 2018 22:16:43 GMT
i would say more than likely its either really ancient angara or an unknown species that was there long before the remnant showed upHow ancient How ancient could an Angaran be? Have they been around long enough to even have an ancient period? |
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 22, 2018 22:20:41 GMT
i would say more than likely its either really ancient angara or an unknown species that was there long before the remnant showed upHow ancient How ancient could an Angaran be? Have they been around long enough to even have an ancient period? According to Avela after we bring her all the artifacts and we find out about the Jardaan, she determines that Angara have been around less than a millennium. |
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Post by Basquemercat117 on Oct 22, 2018 23:01:40 GMT
How ancient could an Angaran be? Have they been around long enough to even have an ancient period? According to Avela after we bring her all the artifacts and we find out about the Jardaan, she determines that Angara have been around less than a millennium. i guess it would be ancient for the the time scale for the angara so its more of a retaliative term. |
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Post by SwobyJ on Oct 25, 2018 3:32:03 GMT
Yes 'ancient' post-Remnant Angaran are centuries old, with 'natural' disasters leading to the civilization that is decades old, and the Kett leading to the rebellious society that is years old.
There's a lot of texture there, I just wish it was depicted more compellingly.
But yeah the Angara are less than a millenium, they're very young, an orphan species really, but they also appear like they have a great destiny.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 31, 2018 2:40:51 GMT
i would say more than likely its either really ancient angara or an unknown species that was there long before the remnant showed up Yeah I think it could be an ancient Angarran AI because Jaal did say that even before the Scourge his people did have spaceflight that's why you find that crashed ship on Havarl as the Scourge disrupted everything and they kind of had to start again. Not to mention SAM was able to detect that she was lying as he told you/Ryder as such. I only really remember this as I did this very mission earlier today on my current playthrough. Avela even asid a lot of their history was lost because of the Scourge hey recovered only to now be blasted at by Kett |
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