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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 15, 2018 16:53:40 GMT
Yeah a Thread about Awakening. Bioware may have forgotten that Awakening exist but i don´t.  Simple question is our first female dwarven Companion Sigrun already dead ( presumed that Sigrun had survived Awakening) when DAI or even DA 4 start or is there a slim hope that she still lives?
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 15, 2018 17:03:13 GMT
Can’t say definitively, but probably not.
According to the epilogue screens for Awakening, Sigrun dies if she’s left to defend Vigil’s Keep and you save Amaranthine. She can also be killed if you side with the Architect.
Even if she lives, she also abandons the Wardens and goes into the Deep Roads if you don’t complete her companion quest.
Of course, the canonicity of the epilogue screens is a bit dubious. But the fact that her build (a heavy-armoured tank rogue) clashes with the desired direction for rogues in DA, she’s probably not coming back.
Sigrun does pen an essay about herself in World of Thedas Vol. 2, incidentally. She tries writing with darkspawn blood and discovers that it makes for lousy ink as it tries to crawl off the page. (No, really.)
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Post by simit on Oct 15, 2018 17:14:31 GMT
Ofc there's hope she's alive, if i remember correctly all that was said was she was never heard from again though tbh it does imply she went the way she wanted to from the moment you met her an that was chopping up darkspawn in the deep roads
I thought she was a great character for how little time we spend with her, easily beating out Varric for me, an is one alongside Shaper Valta i wouldn't say no to coming back in as full time comps in the main game.
Tbh im actually surprised at how much i prefer most DLC comps to there fully fledged main game counterparts, so if a female dwarf comp was incomming for DA4 i wouldn't say no to a return for either Sigrun, Valta or Harding with Valta possibly being the more interesting
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Post by Lazarillo on Oct 15, 2018 17:23:35 GMT
Technically, Sigrun was dead before we ever met her. Funeral and everything.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 15, 2018 17:29:54 GMT
Technically, Sigrun was dead before we ever met her. Funeral and everything. You beat me to it.  |
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 15, 2018 17:31:08 GMT
Can’t say definitively, but probably not. According to the epilogue screens for Awakening, Sigrun dies if she’s left to defend Vigil’s Keep and you save Amaranthine. She can also be killed if you side with the Architect. Even if she lives, she also abandons the Wardens and goes into the Deep Roads if you don’t complete her companion quest. Being DA, they could always find some way to bring her back if they wanted. But I recall them saying they don't want to overplay that card going forward (like they did with Leliana). But the fact that her build (a heavy-armoured tank rogue) clashes with the desired direction for rogues in DA, she’s probably not coming back. There's no reason Tanky-Rogues can't make a reappearance in DA4. Technically, they were even in DA:I, though just in MP (Silent Sister). Considering it was one of the more popular DAMP classes, I wouldn't be surprised to see something like that in the future. |
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 15, 2018 18:25:56 GMT
Being DA, they could always find some way to bring her back if they wanted. But I recall them saying they don't want to overplay that card going forward (like they did with Leliana). I think that Bioware will be considering this more in the Future. Calpernia will likely return in DA 4 even if we had fight her.
Also Leliana is in my opionion a bad example for Retcons. Bioware clearly underestimated Lelianas popularity after finishing DAO. But i like their solution for the few Players who had killed her in DAO.
Anders and especially Justice were a lot worse than Leliana.
Speaking of Leliana. Did she kill Marjolaine after DAO regardless if the player had romanced Leliana or not? I mean DAI Leliana doesn´t seem like the person who would tolerate this potential risk from her Past.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 15, 2018 19:00:01 GMT
In The Masked Empire, Celene mentions in passing that she heard Marjolaine perished in Ferelden during the Fifth Blight.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 15, 2018 19:27:24 GMT
In The Masked Empire, Celene mentions in passing that she heard Marjolaine perished in Ferelden during the Fifth Blight. The Novels have their own Canon. So we don´t know exactly if this is true for all of the World States.
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 15, 2018 19:59:21 GMT
In The Masked Empire, Celene mentions in passing that she heard Marjolaine perished in Ferelden during the Fifth Blight. The Novels have their own Canon. So we don´t know exactly if this is true for all of the World States.
Yeah, I don't know if we have a definitive answer on this. I was curious myself, so I fired off a tweet... |
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 15, 2018 20:10:09 GMT
Yeah, I don't know if we have a definitive answer on this. I was curious myself, so I fired off a tweet... Thanks Hrungry (...for blood) 
There are too many characters with unclear fates. I wish that someone of the Bioware Authors tell us which one is dead or not. Another Example i find its very strange that we know all the fates from the book characters expect Adrian.
Did she get killed at the Conclave?
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 15, 2018 20:22:52 GMT
Yeah, I don't know if we have a definitive answer on this. I was curious myself, so I fired off a tweet... Thanks Hrungry (...for blood) 
There are too many characters with unclear fates. I wish that someone of the Bioware Authors tell us which one is dead or not. Another Example i find its very strange that we know all the fates from the book characters expect Adrian.
Did she get killed at the Conclave?
As far as Marjolaine goes, Patrick was kind enough to answer... 
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
I don’t think we conclusively said, but my assumption that Leliana has at least continued to not kill her. She may have met her death some other way by now, however.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 15, 2018 20:42:42 GMT
As far as Marjolaine goes, Patrick was kind enough to answer...
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes
I don’t think we conclusively said, but my assumption that Leliana has at least continued to not kill her. She may have met her death some other way by now, however.
Great but i would have prefered clear answer. Maybe Lelianas Author Sheryl Chee have one.
But thanks again Hrungry.
Its a bit Off-Topic and a strange Question but i wonder quite some time who is or was Meghan Vael. Could Meghan even be Sebastians Mother? In DA 2 we only find this Amulet from a dead Flint Company Merc and thats all.
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Post by thats1evildude on Oct 15, 2018 21:45:11 GMT
Questions, questions. One would think a Grey Warden would be more interested in action. (sigh)
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Post by gervaise21 on Oct 16, 2018 18:57:48 GMT
Its a bit Off-Topic and a strange Question but i wonder quite some time who is or was Meghan Vael. Could Meghan even be Sebastians Mother? I thought she was his sister but I don't know where I got that from. His mother would make sense. It was odd we never got to give it to him and find out. |
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 16, 2018 19:56:32 GMT
Its a bit Off-Topic and a strange Question but i wonder quite some time who is or was Meghan Vael. Could Meghan even be Sebastians Mother? I thought she was his sister but I don't know where I got that from. His mother would make sense. It was odd we never got to give it to him and find out. I think Seb just had 2 brothers and his parents. So probably his mother or maybe other relative. |
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Oct 16, 2018 19:59:57 GMT
I thought she was his sister but I don't know where I got that from. Maybe but we really have no Clue who Meghan Vael is/was. It could be everything.
I think Seb just had 2 brothers and his parents. So probably his mother or maybe other relative. Maybe. Or an Ancestor like Lady Seeker Alandra Vael and Amadis Vael. We don´t know.
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Post by vertigomez on Oct 25, 2018 0:23:41 GMT
Realistically she's probably dead.
But tiny goth bae lives on in my heart.
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