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Post by naughtynomad on Nov 13, 2018 12:46:13 GMT
So she's basically Sera, without he ugly haircut and mental disorder?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 14, 2018 2:56:24 GMT
Varric. Charter. Hey, the plot thickens. Yep. It's because of those two as well as the others that Vaea gets involved with the Inquisition. Charter because she blackmails her into doing a job, Varric because he talks with her and helps her get in for the job, Tessa and Marius because they ask her to complete their mission after she completes the job of rescuing them, and Aaron for being her rock (whether she liked it or not at the time. )
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Post by Iddy on Nov 23, 2018 13:41:57 GMT
So she's basically Sera, without he ugly haircut and mental disorder? The only thing they have in common is being elven rogues. Vaea is polite, doesn't love crude humor and isn't a boomerang racist.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 23, 2018 19:46:53 GMT
A sneak peak at a few pages from Issue 3 of Dragon Age: Deception. linkI absolutely love Vaea's reaction to the things set off by the end of Issue 2. Also interesting to see that Aaron is teaching her to fight, so my hope of her being a companion went up a little more.
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 23, 2018 19:59:49 GMT
I absolutely love Vaea's reaction to the things set off by the end of Issue 2. Also interesting to see that Aaron is teaching her to fight, so my hope of her being a companion went up a little more. I must admit that I like what I've seen too. Of all the people that have been introduced in the comics, she is the one that most appeals to me. Vaea is polite, doesn't love crude humor and isn't a boomerang racist Yes, this is what I like about her. Plus the way she helps out the alienage elves wherever she goes just because she can. I loved the way she put Calix in his place and how hard she tries to help Ser Aeron with his drink problem. I dare say we'll have a better idea of where they are taking her character soon.
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Post by Serza on Nov 23, 2018 20:14:20 GMT
These events are becoming far too major for a simple comic.
A simple comic that is not setting anything up, anyway.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 23, 2018 23:30:12 GMT
I absolutely love Vaea's reaction to the things set off by the end of Issue 2. Also interesting to see that Aaron is teaching her to fight, so my hope of her being a companion went up a little more. I must admit that I like what I've seen too. Of all the people that have been introduced in the comics, she is the one that most appeals to me. Vaea is polite, doesn't love crude humor and isn't a boomerang racist Yes, this is what I like about her. Plus the way she helps out the alienage elves wherever she goes just because she can. I loved the way she put Calix in his place and how hard she tries to help Ser Aeron with his drink problem. I dare say we'll have a better idea of where they are taking her character soon. Agreed. If only one character in these recent comics could become a companion, I'd choose Vaea immediately because of how much her character appeals to me. And yeah, I loved the way she put Calix in his place, first by giving him some sass ("Old people, huh? What can you do?" "Well, sleep with them, clearly." had me laughing) and then just straight up shoving him away hard and putting him in his place when he tries to put the moves on her. I can only imagine what she would have said next if Dorian interrupted. As for Aaron, I felt bad for her due to his reaction. Here she is trying to help him like he helped her, and he just goes on and says that "Perhaps you aren't inspiration enough". Considering the inspiration he was to her, that has to hurt. Even more when he tries to not let others down and keep his word, only to do break both of those things with her. I'm curious what this will do to their relationship, like how will they patch things up.
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Post by Walter Black on Nov 24, 2018 15:21:01 GMT
These events are becoming far too major for a simple comic. A simple comic that is not setting anything up, anyway. Not a point in the comics' favor. Say what you about Gaider's series, at least they told an independent tale with a beginning, middle and end. One of my main problems with franchise storytelling these days, as I don't like paying full price for an extended trailer .
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Post by thats1evildude on Nov 25, 2018 3:37:28 GMT
These events are becoming far too major for a simple comic. A simple comic that is not setting anything up, anyway. I don’t really see that. We knew the qunari were attacking Tevinter from the end of Trespasser and nothing has really transpired (yet) that has to be addressed in a game.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 26, 2018 7:06:36 GMT
Cool little note about the design of Vaea: link Neither we nor the artist have sole control. We come up with the characters, and give design notes to the artist. Then Bioware comments on those notes. Then the artist does preliminary designs and we and Bioware give notes on those, and then the artist finalizes the designs. So it’s a collective thing. Vaea being a person of color was Bioware’s suggestion - though we quite liked it. - ND
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 28, 2018 16:26:46 GMT
nunziodefilippis Thanks for agreeing to answer questions about Vaea. To start with a fun one, since she is working with the Inquisition now what would she think and how would she get along with the main cast in Dragon Age: Inquisition if they met?
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Nov 28, 2018 21:03:27 GMT
nunziodefilippis Thanks for agreeing to answer questions about Vaea. To start with a fun one, since she is working with the Inquisition now what would she think and how would she get along with the main cast in Dragon Age: Inquisition if they met? Hmmm.... Varric and Dorian she's actually met, so I'll let their interactions speak for themselves. The rest: IRON BULL - I think she'd like him well enough. She'd likely be wary of the Qun, but would find him a welcome counterpoint and he'd open her eyes a bit. VIVIENNE - Too full of herself, without any real sense of fun. Not Vaea's speed. SERA - I think she'd start by being confused and annoyed by Sera, then start to think "hey maybe I like this person" then ultimately decide that her first impression was correct. COLE - I think she'd also find him confusing at first, but she would become pretty protective of him, whether he needed the protection or not. BLACKWALL - I think they'd get along. He doesn't have the same amount of panache as Ser Aaron, so I think he might come up short for her because of that - like she's always comparing him to Ser Aaron and unconsciously judging him for not telling stories or being as much "fun." Still, she'd like him because he also harbors some pain and tries to bury it in different ways, and I think she'd respond to that. CULLEN - A bit too uptight for her. She'd respect him, but not know how to talk to him. JOSEPHINE - I think she and Josephine would get along exceptionally well. I'd imagine them becoming friends, despite very different backgrounds. LELIANA - She'd admire the hell out of the Nightengale, but maybe be a tiny bit afraid too. CASSANDRA - A bit like her reaction to Cullen, but I suspect she'd warm up more to Cassandra once she discovered Cassandra's softer side - her interest in Varric's books, for example. But these are just off the top of my head, and if Christina and I had to write her interacting with these people, it might end up very different.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 28, 2018 22:36:00 GMT
nunziodefilippis Thanks for agreeing to answer questions about Vaea. To start with a fun one, since she is working with the Inquisition now what would she think and how would she get along with the main cast in Dragon Age: Inquisition if they met? Hmmm.... Varric and Dorian she's actually met, so I'll let their interactions speak for themselves. The rest: IRON BULL - I think she'd like him well enough. She'd likely be wary of the Qun, but would find him a welcome counterpoint and he'd open her eyes a bit. VIVIENNE - Too full of herself, without any real sense of fun. Not Vaea's speed. SERA - I think she'd start by being confused and annoyed by Sera, then start to think "hey maybe I like this person" then ultimately decide that her first impression was correct. COLE - I think she'd also find him confusing at first, but she would become pretty protective of him, whether he needed the protection or not. BLACKWALL - I think they'd get along. He doesn't have the same amount of panache as Ser Aaron, so I think he might come up short for her because of that - like she's always comparing him to Ser Aaron and unconsciously judging him for not telling stories or being as much "fun." Still, she'd like him because he also harbors some pain and tries to bury it in different ways, and I think she'd respond to that. CULLEN - A bit too uptight for her. She'd respect him, but not know how to talk to him. JOSEPHINE - I think she and Josephine would get along exceptionally well. I'd imagine them becoming friends, despite very different backgrounds. LELIANA - She'd admire the hell out of the Nightengale, but maybe be a tiny bit afraid too. CASSANDRA - A bit like her reaction to Cullen, but I suspect she'd warm up more to Cassandra once she discovered Cassandra's softer side - her interest in Varric's books, for example. But these are just off the top of my head, and if Christina and I had to write her interacting with these people, it might end up very different. Thank you for answering that. I'm very tempted to make a Vaea Inquisitor now. You may have already answered this somewhere else, but what was the inspiration you and Christina had when creating the Vaea the way you did? Also if you would describe the character in a few sentences or so, how would you describe her?
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Nov 28, 2018 23:07:06 GMT
nunziodefilippis Thanks for agreeing to answer questions about Vaea. To start with a fun one, since she is working with the Inquisition now what would she think and how would she get along with the main cast in Dragon Age: Inquisition if they met? Hmmm.... Varric and Dorian she's actually met, so I'll let their interactions speak for themselves. The rest: But these are just off the top of my head, and if Christina and I had to write her interacting with these people, it might end up very different. Thanks but you forgot the most important one Solas. Mistake or intention? Also it would be interesting what Vaea thinks of Merrill and Fenris. And just for Fun Isabela and Zevran. Especially Zevran could be juicy.
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Nov 28, 2018 23:25:04 GMT
Thank you for answering that. I'm very tempted to make a Vaea Inquisitor now. You may have already answered this somewhere else, but what was the inspiration you and Christina had when creating the Vaea the way you did? Also if you would describe the character in a few sentences or so, how would you describe her? Vaea came from a campaign Christina and I were part of in a pen and paper RPG. The system was Seventh Sea, and the characters of Aaron and Vaea were bit characters - NPCs that moved through the world and complicated the lives of the PCs. Aaron was a wandering drunk Knight, who seemed incompetent and foolish, showing up in town to tell obviously false tales of his own greatness - a drunken Nathan Fillion from Castle. Those who payed close attention discovered that Vaea was the real brains of the operation. But the truth about them was that even that was a con, and Aaron was faking his stupidity and drunkenness and the duo was working for a higher power and held many of the secrets of the campaign. So when we got the chance to write for Dark Horse and Bioware, we pitched a bunch of ideas. One of them repurposed the duo with Ser Aaron as a real drunk who never got over Ostagar (which aged him up a bit), and Vaea being repurposed to be a city elf and a master thief. The folks at Dark Horse liked the idea of Ser Aaron's drunkenness being a sort of self-medication due to PTSD. The Bioware folks ran with that and made big character suggestions to pull that to the forefront, and we adjusted Vaea's backstory to make them connect to each other more. And thus this version of the duo was born, partially based on our RPG, partially on our own adjustments, and a lot based on feedback from Dark Horse and Bioware. A couple of sentences to describe Vaea...? She's clever, but perhaps not as clever as she thinks she is. She projects a cynical world view due to a truly tragic past, but deep in her core she is a believer in fairness and decency. She has never worked an honest day in her life, but has never worked a dishonorable one. She cares only about what is right, and never about what is required or what is legal. She has lost so much family, that she is both wary of getting too close to people and secretly desperate for it.
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Nov 28, 2018 23:33:34 GMT
Thanks but you forgot the most important one Solas. Mistake or intention? Also it would be interesting what Vaea thinks of Merrill and Fenris. And just for Fun Isabela and Zevran. Especially Zevran could be juicy.
Did I forget Solas...? My bad. One thing her uncle taught her was that people who think they're the one to fix the world can lead to major trouble. I think if she knew the truth about Solas, she'd hate him a lot. But the Solas who was an apostate who talked about spirits? She'd find him odd and a bit smug, but wouldn't hate him. She just wouldn't want to talk to him all that much. ---- Merrill is sweet and naive, and I think Vaea would respond well to that, but wouldn't really know how to truly befriend her as a result. They'd get along well on the surface. Fenris... well, getting Fenris and Vaea to meet is a major aspiration of mine, so I will withhold comment in the hopes of making that aspiration come true. Isabela would be right up Vaea's alley. I think at some point, she'd need to see Isabela's heart peek out from behind all her bluster about freedom from responsibility, or she'd start to be bothered by the notion that Isabela didn't care. But they'd get along well enough that she'd be able to know that Isabela secretly did care. As for Zevran... the way I see it, Zevran would never stop trying to have sex with Vaea. I think to some extent that's true of Zevran with everyone, but I'd write it as particularly extreme with Vaea. And I think that would annoy her. But she'd like him, personally. She'd just wish he'd stop flirting.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 28, 2018 23:43:13 GMT
nunziodefilippis Ah, that's a really interesting genesis of the idea for their characters as well as seeing how it went from that to the culmination of their creation. Thank you for sharing. Also thank you for giving me the brief synopsis of her character. I put it into the original post for the thread. And yay, I'm glad that you think she would get along with Leliana, Merrill, and Josephine. My four favorite Dragon Age characters could all be friends.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Nov 28, 2018 23:46:22 GMT
Thanks but you forgot the most important one Solas. Mistake or intention? Also it would be interesting what Vaea thinks of Merrill and Fenris. And just for Fun Isabela and Zevran. Especially Zevran could be juicy.
Did I forget Solas...? My bad. One thing her uncle taught her was that people who think they're the one to fix the world can lead to major trouble. I think if she knew the truth about Solas, she'd hate him a lot. But the Solas who was an apostate who talked about spirits? She'd find him odd and a bit smug, but wouldn't hate him. She just wouldn't want to talk to him all that much. ---- Merrill is sweet and naive, and I think Vaea would respond well to that, but wouldn't really know how to truly befriend her as a result. They'd get along well on the surface. Fenris... well, getting Fenris and Vaea to meet is a major aspiration of mine, so I will withhold comment in the hopes of making that aspiration come true. Isabela would be right up Vaea's alley. I think at some point, she'd need to see Isabela's heart peek out from behind all her bluster about freedom from responsibility, or she'd start to be bothered by the notion that Isabela didn't care. But they'd get along well enough that she'd be able to know that Isabela secretly did care. As for Zevran... the way I see it, Zevran would never stop trying to have sex with Vaea. I think to some extent that's true of Zevran with everyone, but I'd write it as particularly extreme with Vaea. And I think that would annoy her. But she'd like him, personally. She'd just wish he'd stop flirting. Thanks again. I know that Vaea would hate Solas but do you see even a small possibility that Solas can convince her to join him? I also hope that Fenris and Vaea will meet sometime.
Tallis would also be interessing. And if you don´t mind what would Vaea think about Tallis. I mean they both quite similar.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 28, 2018 23:47:37 GMT
Did I forget Solas...? My bad. One thing her uncle taught her was that people who think they're the one to fix the world can lead to major trouble. I think if she knew the truth about Solas, she'd hate him a lot. But the Solas who was an apostate who talked about spirits? She'd find him odd and a bit smug, but wouldn't hate him. She just wouldn't want to talk to him all that much. ---- Merrill is sweet and naive, and I think Vaea would respond well to that, but wouldn't really know how to truly befriend her as a result. They'd get along well on the surface. Fenris... well, getting Fenris and Vaea to meet is a major aspiration of mine, so I will withhold comment in the hopes of making that aspiration come true. Isabela would be right up Vaea's alley. I think at some point, she'd need to see Isabela's heart peek out from behind all her bluster about freedom from responsibility, or she'd start to be bothered by the notion that Isabela didn't care. But they'd get along well enough that she'd be able to know that Isabela secretly did care. As for Zevran... the way I see it, Zevran would never stop trying to have sex with Vaea. I think to some extent that's true of Zevran with everyone, but I'd write it as particularly extreme with Vaea. And I think that would annoy her. But she'd like him, personally. She'd just wish he'd stop flirting. Thanks again. I know that Vaea would hate Solas but do you see even a small possibility that Solas can convince her to join him? Also hope that Fenris and Vaea will meet sometime.
Tallis would also be interessing. And if you don´t mind what would Vaea think about Tallis. I mean they both quite similar. We must know how she feels about all the companions!
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Nov 28, 2018 23:55:44 GMT
We must know how she feels about all the companions! Don´t be greedy. But Vaeas opionion on Tallis, Maevaris Tilani, Scout Lace Harding and of course Calpernia would be interessing. And thats more than enough.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 28, 2018 23:59:40 GMT
We must know how she feels about all the companions! Don´t be greedy. But Vaeas opionion on Tallis, Maevaris Tilani, Scout Lace Harding and of course Calpernia would be interessing. And thats more than enough.
I’m not. I already got the answers for the ones I was most curious about. Hmm, I wonder why you’re asking about those.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Nov 29, 2018 0:08:00 GMT
Hmm, I wonder why you’re asking about those. Just for fun of course. Or should i had asked what Vaea thinks about Jerrik and Brogan Dace?
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Nov 29, 2018 6:26:25 GMT
Thanks again. I know that Vaea would hate Solas but do you see even a small possibility that Solas can convince her to join him? I also hope that Fenris and Vaea will meet sometime.
Tallis would also be interessing. And if you don´t mind what would Vaea think about Tallis. I mean they both quite similar.
If Vaea had any inkling of the price Solas' plan would incur, she wouldn't entertain it for a second. While she's training with Ser Aaron, she started from a moral place where any killing was wrong, and probably will never stray too far from that. I think any plan that causes so much death would be inherently unacceptable to her. Tallis would be interesting to Vaea. She'd see certain common skills and would admire her. But as she came to know Tallis, she'd probably be a little unsure how to understand her. I think the Qun is anathema to someone like Vaea. She is a big proponent of personal choice, and being who you want to be. She'd see someone submitting to the Qun as someone stepping away from their own autonomy, and I don't think that would ever make sense to her.
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