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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Dec 25, 2018 0:01:42 GMT
After the new rules on politics were implemented Wait, what? When did this happen? Why isn't shit like this blasted as a notification across the globe? It was added to both the news section and the ticker tape at the top of the page.
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Post by melbella on Dec 25, 2018 0:43:59 GMT
It was added to both the news section and the ticker tape at the top of the page. Epic fail then, for me at least. I don't read the news section unless I know there is something new to read, and after 5 days I didn't notice it in the ticker (it's gone now since this change is apparently "old" news).
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Post by cribbian on Dec 28, 2018 14:35:11 GMT
Vaea's cute nose and little ponytail, like if you agree! Extra points for the non-creepy eyes
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Post by taarsidathanhalsaam on Dec 28, 2018 15:19:24 GMT
Vaea's cute nose and little ponytail, like if you agree! Extra points for the non-creepy eyes I doubt she will have them when she shows up in DA4, so I'm getting in ahead of the game! (Literally! )
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Dec 28, 2018 22:09:33 GMT
Vaea's cute nose and little ponytail, like if you agree! I really LOVE this. Wow!
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Dec 29, 2018 0:34:13 GMT
I’m curious what voices Christina and Nunzio have in mind for Ser Aaron and the various characters in Deception now. Ser Aaron's prototype in our gaming campaign was much younger and visualized as Nathan Fillion. So now, I picture Fillion doing a British accent and sounding a bit older and worn for wear. But Christina hears the voice of Colm Wilkinson (the original Valjean from the musical version of Les Miserables), and that works very well for me too. Olivia's voice is Diane Lane, as she was our inspiration for her. Sean Teale was who we suggested as a model for Calix, so I hear his voice when we write Calix' lines, even though Calix is a bit goofier than Marcos in the Gifted. Francesca we don't have a specific voice actor in mind for. Anyone want to suggest any options?
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Post by yogsothoth on Dec 29, 2018 0:45:58 GMT
Francesca we don't have a specific voice actor in mind for. Anyone want to suggest any options? Nicole Fantl (Fran from Final Fantasy XII)
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 29, 2018 0:53:06 GMT
I’m curious what voices Christina and Nunzio have in mind for Ser Aaron and the various characters in Deception now. Ser Aaron's prototype in our gaming campaign was much younger and visualized as Nathan Fillion. So now, I picture Fillion doing a British accent and sounding a bit older and worn for wear. But Christina hears the voice of Colm Wilkinson (the original Valjean from the musical version of Les Miserables), and that works very well for me too. Olivia's voice is Diane Lane, as she was our inspiration for her. Sean Teale was who we suggested as a model for Calix, so I hear his voice when we write Calix' lines, even though Calix is a bit goofier than Marcos in the Gifted. Francesca we don't have a specific voice actor in mind for. Anyone want to suggest any options? Thanks. I can definitely see those voices for those characters. As for suggestions, I have a couple but none of them are British so wouldn’t have the right accent.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 2:55:27 GMT
Sean Teale was who we suggested as a model for Calix, so I hear his voice when we write Calix' lines, even though Calix is a bit goofier than Marcos in the Gifted. nunziodefilippis Is that what the artist went with in the final version? So Calix is not meant to be South Asian? Or non-white at all?
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Dec 29, 2018 5:13:36 GMT
Sean Teale was who we suggested as a model for Calix, so I hear his voice when we write Calix' lines, even though Calix is a bit goofier than Marcos in the Gifted. nunziodefilippis Is that what the artist went with in the final version? So Calix is not meant to be South Asian? Or non-white at all? Sean Teale is of Venezuelan and Spanish descent (with some Welsh thrown in as well), so he's definitely not white. The artist's final version of Calix is his own creation, but I see traces of Sean Teale's features in there, so I think our suggestion influenced the design, but isn't at the heart of it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2018 6:05:05 GMT
nunziodefilippis Is that what the artist went with in the final version? So Calix is not meant to be South Asian? Or non-white at all? Sean Teale is of Venezuelan and Spanish descent (with some Welsh thrown in as well), so he's definitely not white. The artist's final version of Calix is his own creation, but I see traces of Sean Teale's features in there, so I think our suggestion influenced the design, but isn't at the heart of it. Ah, I remember reading somewhere that he was Spanish, no mention of anything else which is why I went to white.
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Jan 31, 2019 0:05:10 GMT
I happen to notice that Vaea, an elf in a world where being an elf has definitely mattered, is only helping other elves with her robin hooding. and I see HER as specifically more racially motivated to help the poor elves as compared to Sera's sort-of robin hooding. I also see her hurting the very people who gave her "honest work" because they were more well off than her. I see her as possibly hurting Ser Aaron and by association, Fereldan, as she gleefully robs High Nobles like Empress Celene. And I find that selfish, regardless of her race. Because she could start a war or an upset that could lead to many people being injured and killed if she had been caught. But "the prize" the burning desire of hers to "win" against those with more (who are everyone, not just nobles, because she robbed a fruit stand merchant too) to make "them" pay-- because her alienage was cleansed with swords and fire... And all of the "them"s we see are human... leads me to my conclusion about her character. But I think her relationship with Ser Aaron, her growth, has maybe lead to her letting go some of that "them" hatred. And her skills are being focused on better tasks through manipulations of the inquisition and Ser Aaron's belief in her that she can be a bigger better person. I think I missed some of this way back when it was posted because it got rerouted into a discussion of the rules of the forum. But I do want to speak to it now, if that isn't too much of reviving a dead thread. Vaea absolutely began her "heroics" helping only elves. It's a response to her backstory. But the Inquisition doesn't focus on one race over another, and working to help them is building off what she was already developing by traveling with Ser Aaron, which is broadening her sense of heroism. Her arc is not complete yet, but that's her trajectory. We never thought of her as "selfish" per se. But it was a shortcoming on her part. In Knight Errant, my one regret about our writing is that we didn't do enough to set up why she says "after this job we go our separate ways." That was a response to seeing how her thefts had caused problems for Ser Aaron. Even if she thought him an arrogant drunk, deep down she knew he was a good man. And once it became clear that he knew, it meant she'd be asking him to compromise his morality or even lie (or assault people like Granger) to cover for her. And she realized that she wasn't comfortable with that. Then when he was willing to take the punishment for her crimes, it all fell into place for her in terms of how inadvertently selfish her actions had been. So what you were picking up on was designed as a flaw in the character that she grows out of. Not sure we anticipated it being seen as making her unlikeable, per se. Just in need of growth, if that distinction makes sense.
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Post by Iddy on Feb 19, 2019 14:49:51 GMT
While Vaea certainly isn't a pacifist since she will resort to violence if she needs to, she definitely prefers stealth and opposes killing. I don't think that being a pacifist means allowing yourself to be killed.
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Post by phoray on Feb 19, 2019 15:12:34 GMT
While Vaea certainly isn't a pacifist since she will resort to violence if she needs to, she definitely prefers stealth and opposes killing. I don't think that being a pacifist means allowing yourself to be killed. it CAN mean that. The Daughters of Song
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 19, 2019 16:20:11 GMT
While Vaea certainly isn't a pacifist since she will resort to violence if she needs to, she definitely prefers stealth and opposes killing. I don't think that being a pacifist means allowing yourself to be killed. Um...okay. Where did I say otherwise?
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Post by Iddy on Feb 19, 2019 16:21:50 GMT
I don't think that being a pacifist means allowing yourself to be killed. Um...okay. Where did I say otherwise? You said she isn't a pacificist because she kills when she needs to. And you do need to kill when someone is trying to kill you.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 19, 2019 16:26:50 GMT
Um...okay. Where did I say otherwise? You said she isn't a pacificist because she kills when she needs to. And you do need to kill when someone is trying to kill you. No, I said she isn't a pacifist since she doesn't mind using violence when needed. She's even learning how to fight more in Deception. Compare that to say Josephine who accidentally killed someone while defending herself via shoving him away and how that moment still haunts her. None of that goes against your comment of it not meaning "allowing yourself to be killed".
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Post by Iddy on Feb 19, 2019 16:51:19 GMT
You said she isn't a pacificist because she kills when she needs to. And you do need to kill when someone is trying to kill you. No, I said she isn't a pacifist since she doesn't mind using violence when needed. She's even learning how to fight more in Deception. Compare that to say Josephine who accidentally killed someone while defending herself via shoving him away and how that moment still haunts her. None of that goes against your comment of it not meaning "allowing yourself to be killed". If you don't use violence when being attacked (aka when needed), you're allowing yourself to be killed. It's not that hard to grasp.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Feb 19, 2019 16:56:58 GMT
No, I said she isn't a pacifist since she doesn't mind using violence when needed. She's even learning how to fight more in Deception. Compare that to say Josephine who accidentally killed someone while defending herself via shoving him away and how that moment still haunts her. None of that goes against your comment of it not meaning "allowing yourself to be killed". If you don't use violence when being attacked (aka when needed), you're allowing yourself to be killed. It's not that hard to grasp. Okay? However just to end this, I will point out that Vaea has used violence even when not being attacked, for example knocking out the corrupt Templar in Kirkwall. Again, she is close to being a pacifist but there is too much against her to say she is one like Josephine.
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Post by Sifr on Feb 20, 2019 8:26:17 GMT
You said she isn't a pacificist because she kills when she needs to. And you do need to kill when someone is trying to kill you. Not necessarily. One could try to incapacitate/disable enemies, neutralising them as a threat without having to resort to killing them. Even if you had to use some degree of violence to achieve that outcome, it would still be considered a generally "non-violent" approach.
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Post by nunziodefilippis on Mar 9, 2019 8:05:12 GMT
Vaea isn’t a pacifist. She can and will take viiolent action. It’s not her preferred tactic, but she’ll do it. What she’s opposed to is killing.
She is training with Ser Aaron and working with the Inquisition, so she’s learning how to fight and may end up having to killl soon enough...
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 9, 2019 8:31:01 GMT
Vaea isn’t a pacifist. She can and will take viiolent action. It’s not her preferred tactic, but she’ll do it. What she’s opposed to is killing. She is training with Ser Aaron and working with the Inquisition, so she’s learning how to fight and may end up having to killl soon enough...Oh no. Though I guess on the plus side that would remove that issue that could stand in the way of being a companion.
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Post by gervaise21 on Mar 9, 2019 8:45:51 GMT
Oh no. Sometimes you end up killing someone without intending to in self defence. In fact it is more than likely if you are fighting for your life. So it wouldn't change her general outlook that she will avoid killing if she can. To be honest that is how I try and play my PCs. I end up killing people and animals because they will insist on attacking me and I don't want to die but I don't go out of my way trying to find things to kill. When I was in the Storm Coast I kept trying to avoid the bears rather than kill them but inevitably one would find a way of sneaking up on me. If Vaea did become a companion what I would want to see is that if your PC seems to have a blood-lust, then that would be the reason she would choose to leave your party. Obviously that could not be based off generally encounters but linked to certain plot elements where the PC had the option of sparing someone or simply killing them when there was no justification really for doing the latter.
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