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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 10, 2016 15:03:52 GMT
Is there somewhere some hints on why/how the fuck the governments of all cycles accept the citadel as their political center without asking questions !? That worker quest in ME1 looked a bit dumb and even dumber in the end... That crappy pseudo scientist studying the citadel mystery on its own ...
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Oct 10, 2016 15:08:36 GMT
Not really.
Which is odd because people call that catalyst the biggest plot hole in the story. Which ignores this planet sized one in the first game.
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Post by Lavochkin on Oct 10, 2016 15:16:18 GMT
It's also mentioned how the citadel isn't fully explored IIRC, which is odd given how long it's been occupied by them.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 10, 2016 15:30:08 GMT
Lol Chorban discover mostly everithing about the keepers with those few scans, even the cycle period ! This is the letter he sends to Shep during ME2 : " From: Chorban
I hope this address still works. I promised to send you intel on the keepers if I found anything, and this is important. See, those scans you took? It turns out the keepers are bio-engineered... and based on my comparisons to some of that material from Saren's flagship Sovereign, they were engineered millions of years ago... by the same people who made Sovereign!
You may not understand how important this is, but it suggests that the Citadel wasn't really made by the Protheans! It may have been made by something far older, with the keepers as organic guardians. And what's more, based on my genetic readings, they're supposed to react to... something, some signal or something... about every 50 thousand years. You can measure genetic variances; it's a bit like comparing rings on a tree to see the drought years.
Whoever did this... well, around the last time this signal went off would be around the time the Protheans disappeared. And it's scheduled to go off sometime around now. If any of the old tech still works, they could have some nasty surprises waiting for us.
Just thought you'd want to know. Nobody here on the Citadel will listen to me.
-Chorban "
That looks like the major plot hole in this cycle of reapa destruction imo
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Post by Darth Dennis on Oct 10, 2016 15:31:55 GMT
Because then the game wouldn't work...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 10, 2016 15:51:38 GMT
I usually thought of the whole keeper thing as evidence that, originally, the story, even within ME1, was planned to go in a very different direction than it eventually did. ME1 also makes mention of the Citadel itself actually being an enormous mass relay... and it is never actually shown to be one or used as one. I've always suspected that the bit about the Mass Relay statue being a little one-way relay was added into the story somewhat later in the development cycle after the development team threw out an original, larger idea utilizing the whole Citadel as a mass relay.
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Post by DerekG on Oct 10, 2016 17:44:51 GMT
I suspect the Reapers built the Citadel to have a sort of pacifying affect on people living there, making them less likely to question things like the Keepers, doubt the existence of the Reapers, etc. There's a conversation with Vega in ME3 that seems to hint at something like this.
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 10, 2016 18:21:17 GMT
I was ready to accept the unevitable Because then the game wouldn't work... but I usually thought of the whole keeper thing as evidence that, originally, the story, even within ME1, was planned to go in a very different direction than it eventually did. ME1 also makes mention of the Citadel itself actually being an enormous mass relay... and it is never actually shown to be one or used as one. I've always suspected that the bit about the Mass Relay statue being a little one-way relay was added into the story somewhat later in the development cycle after the development team threw out an original, larger idea utilizing the whole Citadel as a mass relay. yeah, i guess Drew K. might have had something in mind I suspect the Reapers built the Citadel to have a sort of pacifying affect on people living there, making them less likely to question things like the Keepers, doubt the existence of the Reapers, etc. There's a conversation with Vega in ME3 that seems to hint at something like this.la And indoctination must play a role here clearly.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Oct 11, 2016 5:12:03 GMT
Is there somewhere some hints on why/how the fuck the governments of all cycles accept the citadel as their political center without asking questions !? That worker quest in ME1 looked a bit dumb and even dumber in the end... That crappy pseudo scientist studying the citadel mystery on its own ... The most logical reason is because the Citadel is the center of the Mass Relay Array. Since the Reapers make it so we use the Mass Relays, it makes sense that since those are what connect the races that those races see the station that connects the Relays as the perfect place for the center of government.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 11, 2016 6:19:16 GMT
It's also mentioned how the citadel isn't fully explored IIRC, which is odd given how long it's been occupied by them. It's not odd if the Keepers actively deny access to those areas. It wouldn't be very good for business if those pesky organics found the part of the underbelly that the London Conduit leads to; the place where they make new Reapers. I feel like the Keepers denying areas was confirmed at some point, but I don't remember. I suspect the Reapers built the Citadel to have a sort of pacifying affect on people living there, making them less likely to question things like the Keepers, doubt the existence of the Reapers, etc. There's a conversation with Vega in ME3 that seems to hint at something like this. My thoughts exactly, especially after that conversation. The Citadel is a Reaper device, after all, so low-key indoctrination would make sense to keep the galaxy's leadership pacified. It would make the council less stupid, as well, but it doesn't excuse the rest of the galaxy from being so stubborn about not believing Shepard and co. "It's not right. It looks pretty - calm and peaceful - but it's not right... It's all just an illusion." I can't help but think of synthesis when I hear that line. Is there somewhere some hints on why/how the fuck the governments of all cycles accept the citadel as their political center without asking questions !? That worker quest in ME1 looked a bit dumb and even dumber in the end... That crappy pseudo scientist studying the citadel mystery on its own ... The most logical reason is because the Citadel is the center of the Mass Relay Array. Since the Reapers make it so we use the Mass Relays, it makes sense that since those are what connect the races that those races see the station that connects the Relays as the perfect place for the center of government. That's a good point. "You evolve along the paths we desire."
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Post by aoibhealfae on Oct 11, 2016 6:27:29 GMT
government and common sense aren't mutually exclusive
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Post by Alfonsedode on Oct 11, 2016 13:47:33 GMT
I agree it s logical to put the government in the zone, even on the citadel, but not before knowing the place a bit ! Like where is the control center ! (wikia quote : " The location of the Citadel's core and its master control unit, regulating systems such as life support and navigation, remain hidden.") What are those worker dealing with everything ?!? Indoctrination is the most likely response but hell, u could easily have an entire game/book about the discovery of the citadel by the asari. So much to be understood and discovered.
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Oct 11, 2016 14:21:03 GMT
I suspect the Reapers built the Citadel to have a sort of pacifying affect on people living there, making them less likely to question things like the Keepers, doubt the existence of the Reapers, etc. There's a conversation with Vega in ME3 that seems to hint at something like this. Not really just denial over what is happening.
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