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Post by Heimdall on Nov 26, 2018 10:02:16 GMT
I threw together a little family tree for this:
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Post by gervaise21 on Nov 26, 2018 14:35:28 GMT
Another great video. I really love the way you bring all the history together. I take your point about the timeline as well but then the writers have sometimes proven to be a bit unreliable when it comes to dates, even about more recent history let alone the Ancient period. They usually seem to explain these discrepancies by attributing them to the differing recollections of events and no actual dates were given for the birth of any of the children, so it is possible that Vivial was that young when she ran off with Regulan.
A lot depends on what age Andraste was when her step-sister was killed. World of Thedas 2 says that she did not recover the strength to have children until 10 years after the event. She married Maferath at 16 but that was a political union and he took a concubine specifically because Andraste was incapable of childbearing at that time. However, she died only 17 years later, so there really was only a small window for her daughters to be born if they were old enough to take consorts before Andraste died. It is also possible that Vivial and Regulan only got together after her mother's death, which in a way might have shocked people even more bearing in mind where he came from, which is why she made sure to cover their tracks so effectively. Then later historians assumed that they fled before it occurred.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 26, 2018 14:55:14 GMT
Another great video. I really love the way you bring all the history together. I take your point about the timeline as well but then the writers have sometimes proven to be a bit unreliable when it comes to dates, even about more recent history let alone the Ancient period. They usually seem to explain these discrepancies by attributing them to the differing recollections of events and no actual dates were given for the birth of any of the children, so it is possible that Vivial was that young when she ran off with Regulan. A lot depends on what age Andraste was when her step-sister was killed. World of Thedas 2 says that she did not recover the strength to have children until 10 years after the event. She married Maferath at 16 but that was a political union and he took a concubine specifically because Andraste was incapable of childbearing at that time. However, she died only 17 years later, so there really was only a small window for her daughters to be born if they were old enough to take consorts before Andraste died. It is also possible that Vivial and Regulan only got together after her mother's death, which in a way might have shocked people even more bearing in mind where he came from, which is why she made sure to cover their tracks so effectively. Then later historians assumed that they fled before it occurred. It occurred to me later that “marched on Tevinter” in the in universe source for Vivial might mean when Andraste marched on the Tevinter heartland just before her death rather than the start of her march. I can see Vivial and Regulan being the case of a young teenage romance in that case. Still, the timeline is very tight for Andraste to be thought too fragile so Maferath turned to Gilivhan then found to be strong enough after all to have two daughters. Something I also forgot to bring up: The WoT v2 specifically says that Ebris died in her late twenties and her daughter, who was old enough to be married herself evidently, died a month later. So apparently Alamarri women of this time are finding consorts and having children in their early teens for that timeline to work, unless Alli Vemar was more of a childhood betrothal political marriage sort of thing.
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Post by biggydx on Nov 26, 2018 23:23:06 GMT
Andraste's dimpled ass-cheeks, that was good.
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