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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 3, 2018 20:13:28 GMT
Ok Sten has his own thread but lets talk about another possible returning character. I´m speaking of course from Shale. Its DA 4 finally the game when we will see her retransformation into a dwarf?
I don´t think the Shale´s DA 4 appearance could be something major like Sten/Arishok but her retransformation would be a cool side quest. And DA 4 needs memorable side quests after DAI. The question is how to do it. Also what about world states where Shale isn´t be recruited or even was killed? Retcon or will this potential side quest have specific conditions?
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Post by gervaise21 on Dec 3, 2018 22:00:35 GMT
The problem about transforming her back into a dwarf is that her original body was destroyed as part of the process to become a golem, so the only way she could be transformed back would be by possessing another dwarf or corpse of a dwarf. I assume this is why Wynne thought she might find the answer in Tevinter as they have more knowledge of these things than in the south.
In the canon world state Shale still exists as she appeared in Asunder and it must be assumed that as she is still accompanying Wynne that they travelled to Tevinter but found that restoration would not be possible. Anyway most conversations with Shale suggest that she quite likes having a golem body instead of a squishy one.
In a World State where she wasn't recruited it would still be possible that the merchant sold the control rod to someone else who went to the village, helped out the people there and was rewarded with the activation word. Then Shale could have eventually crossed paths with Wynne or possibly Leliana that would bring her into events down the line. Even if "killed" by the Warden it is possible she wasn't totally destroyed but simply knocked out and, after she revived, made her way to the surface again.
So theoretically they could bring her back if they really wanted to but would probably only do so if there was a plot reason for it and then more likely as a cameo appearance to give brief assistance to the PC rather than as a full companion again.
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Post by alanc9 on Dec 3, 2018 22:11:30 GMT
Would Shale even want that? She was OK with immortal and nigh-indestructable last time I checked.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 3, 2018 22:48:33 GMT
Would Shale even want that? She was OK with immortal and nigh-indestructable last time I checked. Yes if you had finished her personal quest she and Wynne mentioned this at the end of the game. Starts at 1:33 and Wynne at 8:38
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Dec 4, 2018 3:32:17 GMT
I'd love to see Shale again and perhaps even participate in her change, she was a favourate of mine and it would make an interesting story.
I'm sure the writers can find a way to get her in a dwarf, or just dwarf looking body if they want.
Perhaps the Titans will come into it and provide some way for her to get a new body. Perhaps she'll find an old tevinter body swapping ritual and find a volunteer who thinks being an immortal Rockman would be awesome. Perhaps we'll find an old piece of Ghilan'nain's research that would get her a body but at a terrible cost and help her decide whether or not to take it. Or perhaps you help her find something that turns out to be a fool's errand and she has to accept that she can't change back, which would be a dramatic storyline in of itself.
Most companions i tend to feel coming back is unnecessary, but i feel like Shale has more story to tell.
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Post by Beerfish on Dec 4, 2018 5:29:56 GMT
I would love to see a Shale story arc in the next game. Great character.
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Post by Blaze on Dec 4, 2018 11:50:29 GMT
well the last we saw shale was in asunder and she was still a golem in 9:40 dragon. personally, while i hope she will eventually get what she wanted, as long as she returns, in one way or another, i don't mind if it will be as a golem or as a dwarf.
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Post by LogicGunn on Dec 8, 2018 12:43:31 GMT
Shale for romance option! 😋
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Post by copper on Dec 8, 2018 17:01:36 GMT
I'd very much like to see Shale again. I think she could be like how Dagna makes it on the surface with or without the warden's help. Someone would eventually make it to Shale's village and discover her activation word. And in world states where she's dead, I'd think it's pretty tough to actually kill a golem. It'd be more believable that Shale could return from the dead than Leliana at least.
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Post by jnericsonx on Dec 15, 2018 0:28:50 GMT
I'd love for Iron Bull to meet Shale, just to see his "holy crap" reaction.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 15, 2018 16:51:37 GMT
I'd love for Iron Bull to meet Shale, just to see his "holy crap" reaction. I don´t think that will ever happen. The Iron Bull is in many world states already dead. I doubt that Bioware will use The Iron Bull in future games anything more than a cameo. But regradless i would love to see this.
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Post by jnericsonx on Dec 19, 2018 3:55:55 GMT
That's depressing. FPJ knocked it out the park. When I first saw the Iron Bull BTS trailer, I wasn't buying the voice, etc. Within a couple hours of playing the game once getting Bull, I was HIGHLY impressed. One of my favorite characters in DAI, right up there with Cole and Dorian.
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