DA 4 Romances! New info for real this time!!! Zom-bangin'?

I am angry? Nah man, I didn't buy MEA, I returned DAI, I probably won't buy DA4. I lose nothing by discussing it, I have no personal stake, I have no bias. This level of indifference does however come with a mild bit of amusement, directly namely at folks such as you given your assumption of "anger". So, I will ask you this and let this be the end of it: Do you have anything within you to defend it, or are you just misdirection, and reeing nonsense? 

Plenty of that here on BSN, but I do occasionally hope for the exception to the rule to appear, few and far between though homie, let me tell ya. I swear, its a joke and a half this forum, plenty of folks to cry about representation, and how their politics need to be included into a game, but outside of a handful of tumblr talking points...few of them have anything within them beyond just stereotypes and personal fetishism. So I look for something more, and while this little diversion was amusing enough what with pointing out how MEA was a tire fire again, I do wonder.

Do you actually have a legitimate point of debate of anything I raised or again, is it just reeing nonsense and misdirection with you?

That would be very cool! Sadly I don't think there is going to be m/m native LI in that game. 

Now I am looking forward to the second prize: give me a gay sailor, Spiders! 

I mean since they aren't going all BI-I really hope we get a gay exclusive male. I'm pretty tired of sexualities making sense TM is used exclusively to exclude us from content.   Though I half expect straight women and gay men to only have one option they share with less content than the female options that are going to be 1 straight lady and one bi lady. 

I know, I'm just being facetious. And hopefully supportive.

On that note, I think unconventional "beings" for love interests would be interesting. Imagine if they brought back golems! Or let us romance a spirit. It's really unlikely, but it's fun to speculate.

I don’t have much hope that Greedfall will have a romance that represents me, so all my hope is instead going to there being as many same sex options as heterosexual options.

Edit:Oh, and no forced options like Ubisoft did.

Oh thank god I'm so glad someone else feels the same way as me

How do you expect them to represent you btw? Asexuality when translated into game mechanics is basically maximum friendship with x character. Throughout the 3 games most companions (obviously not Izi or Bull) had this ~option already. Hawke-Varric and Sera-mInqi are probably the closest you can get to an ~ace relationship ingame.

I mean no offense, just curious.

Also not to speak for Hanako, but my view on it is that "sex" and "romance" could be on two different scales.  Like you can be super romantic and also sexual.  Or you can be really not romantic and also sexual.  So, similarly, there could be a romance that is romantic, but not sexual.  The "max friendship" story arcs are both not romantic AND not sexual.  So it's missing the "romantic" part of the romance.

First of all, really? They seem to literally ignore every romance except Solas these days. Not that I'm bitter or anything...

Anyway, yes, so much ignorance regarding asexuality, which isn't surprising since many ace people don't even realize their sexuality is a thing... we'll get there. In addition to Josephine, Solas' romance can also be interpreted as asexual, especially if you chose the green/diplomatic/nice dialogues. There is never any mention at all of sex. 

Now, keep in mind an ace person can still have sex. Of course some would absolutely refuse, so they would need a partner who is also ace or just willing to get their sexual urges out elsewhere. In any case, writing an asexual romance would be really easy, and as we've seen, BioWare have already unintentionally done it twice. It just involves the usual things a romance involves... lots of kissing, hugging, profession of feelings, etc. just no sex. 

As for ME ... I believe you can also turn down sex with Jaal? I'm not sure. There's no sex in the Reyes romance, but that's chiefly because it feels like the romance is just getting started. I feel like with Jaal they actually gave you that option... hmm.

IMO an ace relationship shouldn't be the only option to take with a character... and I'm an ace person. Characters should be like Josephine, Solas, and possibly Jaal, wherein you can have an asexual yet very romantic relationshp with the character IF YOU CHOOSE, but if a player chooses, they can also have a sexual relationship.

Asexuality is something people are still understanding, and I"m sure it's particularly confusing and weird to non-asexual people. To me it's not about representation, but about offering every reasonable option to the player. That's why I'm in favor of making all romances bisexual (gay and straight characters can exist elsewhere within the narrative for representation's sake). I freely support and encourage giving the player the ability to declare their sexuality, too. I don't think we have yet had an option to say we only prefer men or women, and we certainly haven't had the chance to say we prefer not to have sex. It's a tricky business, because I'd hate to pick the latter option and have the character understandably turn me down. But then I'm also someone who very happily plays quite sexual characters, got no problem doing that.

Oh yes, I never imagined it any other way! It was a really beautiful experience for me (too bad I had to use a mod), but is probably also part of the reason why the romance is so special to me... it actually booted my creativity in the ass and got me writing again xD I wrote my first ace character and wrote it about that romance; it was a really good feeling... 

Hmm, having played through the romance several times... and not always choosing to play as ace... I don't ever pick up that Solas is insincere in his feelings. He loves you quite deeply. He fumbles to try and explain why he cares for you so much, for you ARE only a silly mortal Dalish elf after all. He wouldn't struggle so much if he didn't really care. 

Unless you are suggesting that he felt becoming physically intimate would be going TOO FAR and leading on this person he cares extremely deeply for. THAT'S an interesting interpretation, and of course one I never would have considered haha xD 

Anyway, sex or not, I appreciate how much the romance focused on, well, ROMANCE. On your feelings for each other... I think BioWare could really do more of that. Too often they think romance is about bumping and grinding, or about tawdry humor, or just as a vehicle to make the character shine. But writing romance means you actually have to write, you know, ROMANCE. Blushing, fumbling, laughing, staring when you think they're not looking, casually asking others about them, giving them awkward gifts, flirting but trying not to flirt, then flirting more when they seem to like it... it ain't hard, man! But ah well, I happen to love writing romance... can't plot for shit though xD

Me, too. I'm, ah, quite the big fan.   I love complex, morally gray characters AND I love characters with, as you call it, a strong moral compass. He's a twofer!