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Post by OhDaniGirl on Dec 28, 2018 22:33:50 GMT
I can just imagine how Sera would feel about that. She pretty much hates all things elfy, then she finds out SHE is one of the elfiest elves who ever elved.  |
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Post by davkar on Dec 28, 2018 22:37:19 GMT
Meanwhile I'm still waiting for the cute-elven-waifu-revealed-to-be-Andruil-in-disguise romance. That bish was crazy by default and being locked away for centuries probably didn't help either.  There's always the Sera-is-Andruil theory... Though I'd prefer it not to be true so she can just be herself.  Nah, not buying it. Sera is Sera. I want CEWRTBAID to be DAO Morrigan dialed up to 11. (Alternatively I'd take a magister 'evil queen'.  ) |
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 28, 2018 22:38:39 GMT
There's always the Sera-is-Andruil theory... Though I'd prefer it not to be true so she can just be herself. I feel like I want to support this Sera theory because when you look at it, f/f got shafted in DA:I in terms of lore relevancy and potential characters that'll come back in DA4. Gay men have Dorian, straight men have Cassandra, straight women have Solas, lesbians have nothing. A shame. I dunno, only speaking for myself but I love characters who are just "people", don't need any mega relevance beyond that. She's connected to the Red Jennies (who're connected to everyone) and that's enough for me. (Same reason I like Zevran I guess, he's a smol assassin son-of-a-prostitute who tried to kill the wrong person at the right time.) Though if the next game gives us Calpernia or Maevaris or some dark Magister Eva Green babe I won't complain.  |
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 22:38:45 GMT
There's always the Sera-is-Andruil theory... Though I'd prefer it not to be true so she can just be herself. I feel like I want to support this Sera theory because when you look at it, f/f got shafted in DA:I in terms of lore relevancy and potential characters that'll come back in DA4. Gay men have Dorian, straight men have Cassandra, straight women have Solas, lesbians have nothing. A shame. Helping the average, normal citizen always has lore relevancy! I am kinda annoyed how I was forced to play a character that was too stupid to grasp the idea that Sera is a "FOR THE PEOPLE!" type of person. |
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 28, 2018 22:42:38 GMT
I am kinda annoyed how I was forced to play a character that was too stupid to grasp the idea that Sera is a "FOR THE PEOPLE!" type of person. Me too. I was like..... I AGREE WITH YOU, why are all my options 'oh sera, u so silly'?  |
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 22:43:09 GMT
I feel like I want to support this Sera theory because when you look at it, f/f got shafted in DA:I in terms of lore relevancy and potential characters that'll come back in DA4. Gay men have Dorian, straight men have Cassandra, straight women have Solas, lesbians have nothing. A shame. I dunno, only speaking for myself but I love characters who are just "people", don't need any mega relevance beyond that. She's connected to the Red Jennies (who're connected to everyone) and that's enough for me. (Same reason I like Zevran I guess, he's a smol assassin son-of-a-prostitute who tried to kill the wrong person at the right time.) Though if the next game gives us Calpernia or Maevaris or some dark Magister Eva Green babe I won't complain. Mmm yes, I guess you have a point. But there's a good way of dealing with (romanceable) characters that aren't super duper relevant and a bad way. I'm still shocked over how minimal the Gil and Suvi content in ME:A was. EEP! |
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 28, 2018 22:47:37 GMT
I dunno, only speaking for myself but I love characters who are just "people", don't need any mega relevance beyond that. She's connected to the Red Jennies (who're connected to everyone) and that's enough for me. (Same reason I like Zevran I guess, he's a smol assassin son-of-a-prostitute who tried to kill the wrong person at the right time.) Though if the next game gives us Calpernia or Maevaris or some dark Magister Eva Green babe I won't complain. Mmm yes, I guess you have a point. But there's a good way of dealing with (romanceable) characters that aren't super duper relevant and a bad way. I'm still shocked over how minimal the Gil and Suvi content in ME:A was. EEP! Oh yes! Sera may not have been the most.... I don't even know, she was 100% relevant to my game and the character I was playing.... she might not tie in with a lot of overarching plot threads but I'd argue she has the most actual romance content of any LI. Unlike Blackwall, Josephine, Cassandra..... their actual romance content seems pretty brief. Not to mention Solas (who makes up for it in the fandom by being an ancient elven god). |
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Post by ellanathehamster on Dec 28, 2018 22:48:59 GMT
Holy moly, I hope no devs actually visit this tread- they will see how toxic and whiny their fandom can actually be. I also wish they came up with super hard code, so no fan can crack it and see all the stuff they didn't clean before releasing the game. This discussions about supposedly "cut" romance for either gender is never-ending and always, always so cringy. Someone found few lines in soundfiles and some people still, four years after, complain about something, that was never meant to be. (Disregarding how numerous times actual WRITER of a character confirmed that Solas, for example, was never meant to be bisexual). We have one little teaser and that apparently enough to judge about too much sjw ot lack of it. Give bioware a break, ffs  |
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 23:00:55 GMT
Holy moly, I hope no devs actually visit this tread- they will see how toxic and whiny their fandom can actually be. I also wish they came up with super hard code, so no fan can crack it and see all the stuff they didn't clean before releasing the game. This discussions about supposedly "cut" romance for either gender is never-ending and always, always so cringy. Someone found few lines in soundfiles and some people still, four years after, complain about something, that was never meant to be. (Disregarding how numerous times actual WRITER of a character confirmed that Solas, for example, was never meant to be bisexual). We have one little teaser and that apparently enough to judge about too much sjw ot lack of it. Give bioware a break, ffs I just can't help myself. On one side the whole "DA4 WILL BE SJW PROPAGANDA!" outrage intiially comes after John Epler made some tweets answering a post basically saying "Please.. don't insert your own political opinions into the game." And John Epler went ahead and started describing how games are always political, how it is easier to ignore when you agree with it, and that DA has always been a diversity driven franchise, how at the end we realise all we have is our friends, and friendship is magic and blah blah blah. Basically his answer contained every single word that would trigger the "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd. Poorly through out response, I would say. The "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd does not, in general, say much about the introduction of homosexual characters, bisexual characters etc etc. The bisexual ones at the very least has been with us since the very first game. Most of them are just afraid because of John Eplers answer on twitter. |
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Post by Walter Black on Dec 28, 2018 23:02:18 GMT
I feel like I want to support this Sera theory because when you look at it, f/f got shafted in DA:I in terms of lore relevancy and potential characters that'll come back in DA4. Gay men have Dorian, straight men have Cassandra, straight women have Solas, lesbians have nothing. A shame. I dunno, only speaking for myself but I love characters who are just "people", don't need any mega relevance beyond that. She's connected to the Red Jennies (who're connected to everyone) and that's enough for me. (Same reason I like Zevran I guess, he's a smol assassin son-of-a-prostitute who tried to kill the wrong person at the right time.) Though if the next game gives us Calpernia or Maevaris or some dark Magister Eva Green babe I won't complain. As others have stated, I dislike the "Sera is Andruil" theory for the following:
1. It's thematically redundant to have TWO Ancient Elven gods in our party.
2. "But Sera dosen't KNOW her true identity!" you say? I say not only is amnesia is done to death, it is too big a development to deal with in such offhand fashion. The only way such a tale could be done justice is if Sera was a DA4 Companion, which I DO NOT WANT. Let the girl have her happy endings.
3. The whole thing seems like a concoction of fans of generic High Elves who feel "real" elves must be inherently superior; ageless, naturally wise and beautiful and moral, naturally attuned to magic and nature, better at everything than anyone without having done to anything to earn it. Sound familiar  ?
4. Not just that, but the irony of this theory seems specifically designed to fix, or even punish Sera for not being the right kind of elf.
5. Somewhat related to 3, it seems depressing how many fantasy fans still want to dredge up the Secret Divinity trope; a normal person who earns their place among legends? Bah! We want our heroes to have the right genes and connections, to prove we're better! Heroism is inborn, you either have or you don't, and if you don't no amount of hard work will achieve it! 
6. Along with all this, the Sera=Andruil theory has the Unfortunate Implication of removing Sera as purely lesbian representation. Or did everyone forget those stories where Andruil wanted to rape Fen'Harel  ? |
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Post by witchcocktor on Dec 28, 2018 23:08:14 GMT
The "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd does not, in general, say much about the introduction of homosexual characters, bisexual characters etc etc. My own experience is completely different, and I'd say this is completely false. Well, mostly false. You can't group up everyone together. |
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Post by pessimistpanda on Dec 28, 2018 23:13:47 GMT
I am the Homox, I speak for the straights.
I speak for the straights, when the gays make them glum,
By demanding a fair share of fake romance fun.
You see, straights need more content,
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 23:16:15 GMT
The "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd does not, in general, say much about the introduction of homosexual characters, bisexual characters etc etc. My own experience is completely different, and I'd say this is completely false. Well, mostly false. You can't group up everyone together. Well, complaining about the introduction of bisexual character in the Dragon Age franchise at the very least is just stupid overall. So I assume it is only truly a minority who actually complain. Regardless, the point stands. A game developer should not start spitting their political beliefs out like a gatling gun on steroids, it won't do them any good. |
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Post by Kymira on Dec 28, 2018 23:25:01 GMT
Though if the next game gives us Calpernia or Maevaris or some dark Magister Eva Green babe I won't complain. IM HERE FOR THIS POST.  Do it Bioware. |
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Dec 28, 2018 23:28:55 GMT
Holy moly, I hope no devs actually visit this tread- they will see how toxic and whiny their fandom can actually be. I also wish they came up with super hard code, so no fan can crack it and see all the stuff they didn't clean before releasing the game. This discussions about supposedly "cut" romance for either gender is never-ending and always, always so cringy. Someone found few lines in soundfiles and some people still, four years after, complain about something, that was never meant to be. (Disregarding how numerous times actual WRITER of a character confirmed that Solas, for example, was never meant to be bisexual). We have one little teaser and that apparently enough to judge about too much sjw ot lack of it. Give bioware a break, ffs I just can't help myself. On one side the whole "DA4 WILL BE SJW PROPAGANDA!" outrage intiially comes after John Epler made some tweets answering a post basically saying "Please.. don't insert your own political opinions into the game." And John Epler went ahead and started describing how games are always political, how it is easier to ignore when you agree with it, and that DA has always been a diversity driven franchise, how at the end we realise all we have is our friends, and friendship is magic and blah blah blah. Basically his answer contained every single word that would trigger the "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd. Poorly through out response, I would say. The "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd does not, in general, say much about the introduction of homosexual characters, bisexual characters etc etc. The bisexual ones at the very least has been with us since the very first game. Most of them are just afraid because of John Eplers answer on twitter. He already clarified there isn't going to be any modern day politics involved in the game. Anyone still screaming DA4 will be SJW propaganda is greatly misinformed. |
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Post by ellanathehamster on Dec 28, 2018 23:31:38 GMT
Holy moly, I hope no devs actually visit this tread- they will see how toxic and whiny their fandom can actually be. I also wish they came up with super hard code, so no fan can crack it and see all the stuff they didn't clean before releasing the game. This discussions about supposedly "cut" romance for either gender is never-ending and always, always so cringy. Someone found few lines in soundfiles and some people still, four years after, complain about something, that was never meant to be. (Disregarding how numerous times actual WRITER of a character confirmed that Solas, for example, was never meant to be bisexual). We have one little teaser and that apparently enough to judge about too much sjw ot lack of it. Give bioware a break, ffs I just can't help myself. On one side the whole "DA4 WILL BE SJW PROPAGANDA!" outrage intiially comes after John Epler made some tweets answering a post basically saying "Please.. don't insert your own political opinions into the game." And John Epler went ahead and started describing how games are always political, how it is easier to ignore when you agree with it, and that DA has always been a diversity driven franchise, how at the end we realise all we have is our friends, and friendship is magic and blah blah blah. Basically his answer contained every single word that would trigger the "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd. Poorly through out response, I would say. The "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd does not, in general, say much about the introduction of homosexual characters, bisexual characters etc etc. The bisexual ones at the very least has been with us since the very first game. Most of them are just afraid because of John Eplers answer on twitter. Those who complained about Epler tweet are no better that those, who complain about not making Fenris black enough or not getting to romance some companion/nps. I always hate those kind of discussions because it can never remain civil- always ends up in loads of insults and sometimes threats. I am personally average gamer- I am interested in game in the first place. "SJW propaganda" (let's call it that) doesn't bother me if it is done right. (bad example of it can be MEA, where writing was really poor). So I kinda get where those crowd concerns are coming from, even though it was so much overhyped with only single innocent tweet. What bugs me the most how mad people get about sexuality of a character. Which really comes down to selfish desire to romance someone, who looks attractive to them. It is rare about actual representation. I'd say let developers create freely. And then we can form opinion about their end product. The less fanbase influence writing the better actual characters and plot are. |
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 23:32:15 GMT
I just can't help myself. On one side the whole "DA4 WILL BE SJW PROPAGANDA!" outrage intiially comes after John Epler made some tweets answering a post basically saying "Please.. don't insert your own political opinions into the game." And John Epler went ahead and started describing how games are always political, how it is easier to ignore when you agree with it, and that DA has always been a diversity driven franchise, how at the end we realise all we have is our friends, and friendship is magic and blah blah blah. Basically his answer contained every single word that would trigger the "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd. Poorly through out response, I would say. The "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd does not, in general, say much about the introduction of homosexual characters, bisexual characters etc etc. The bisexual ones at the very least has been with us since the very first game. Most of them are just afraid because of John Eplers answer on twitter. He already clarified there isn't going to be any modern day politics involved in the game. Anyone still screaming DA4 will be SJW propaganda is greatly misinformed. I have not followed the issue soon after that, tbh, because I think it was overall stupid. It is the same people who probably complained about DA:I which I personally consider a rather great game and with a great cast of characters. Although I do like myself a "sexy bitch" still, but I am not going to die from not being able to give my straight male character a total, hammering beaty to stand by his side. What I truly live for in terms of companions is the party banter. |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Dec 28, 2018 23:34:50 GMT
So who want a scaled one romance? We know nothing about them but I hope they are not all savages and all the info we got is dwarf propaganda |
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 23:38:07 GMT
I just can't help myself. On one side the whole "DA4 WILL BE SJW PROPAGANDA!" outrage intiially comes after John Epler made some tweets answering a post basically saying "Please.. don't insert your own political opinions into the game." And John Epler went ahead and started describing how games are always political, how it is easier to ignore when you agree with it, and that DA has always been a diversity driven franchise, how at the end we realise all we have is our friends, and friendship is magic and blah blah blah. Basically his answer contained every single word that would trigger the "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd. Poorly through out response, I would say. The "SJW PROPAGANDA!!!" crowd does not, in general, say much about the introduction of homosexual characters, bisexual characters etc etc. The bisexual ones at the very least has been with us since the very first game. Most of them are just afraid because of John Eplers answer on twitter. Those who complained about Epler tweet are no better that those, who complain about not making Fenris black enough or not getting to romance some companion/nps. I always hate those kind of discussions because it can never remain civil- always ends up in loads of insults and sometimes threats. I am personally average gamer- I am interested in game in the first place. "SJW propaganda" (let's call it that) doesn't bother me if it is done right. (bad example of it can be MEA, where writing was really poor). So I kinda get where those crowd concerns are coming from, even though it was so much overhyped with only single innocent tweet. What bugs me the most how mad people get about sexuality of a character. Which really comes down to selfish desire to romance someone, who looks attractive to them. It is rare about actual representation. I'd say let developers create freely. And then we can form opinion about their end product. The less fanbase influence writing the better actual characters and plot are. I mostly agree yes, creators should be allowed to write and create stories freely as they see fit. I just like to point out that if they are in a position to influence a story, then they should avoid to opnely speak about political believes because it political. A better initial answer from John Epler would have been a simple: "No worries." But that of course does not go for only game developers, it is kinda a thing in all businesses, if you stay clear of announcing your political, religious and whatever beliefs, then you have a greater chance of selling your product. ... it is just business 101. |
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 28, 2018 23:41:48 GMT
So who want a scaled one romance? We know nothing about them but I hope they are not all savages and all the info we got is dwarf propaganda  I wifed an Argonian in Skyrim, surely I am prepared for a Scaled One. |
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Post by cankiie on Dec 28, 2018 23:44:21 GMT
So who want a scaled one romance? We know nothing about them but I hope they are not all savages and all the info we got is dwarf propaganda I wifed an Argonian in Skyrim, surely I am prepared for a Scaled One. Wait, we can get argonians as wives/husbands in Skyrim? |
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Post by Dirk on Dec 28, 2018 23:44:40 GMT
So who want a scaled one romance? We know nothing about them but I hope they are not all savages and all the info we got is dwarf propaganda Yes, yes, yes! hmm an example  |
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Post by Davrin's boobs on Dec 28, 2018 23:45:24 GMT
So who want a scaled one romance? We know nothing about them but I hope they are not all savages and all the info we got is dwarf propaganda I wifed an Argonian in Skyrim, surely I am prepared for a Scaled One. YAS sis if something DOS2 and Skyrim have show us is that people are really scaly  also I'm a sucker for a beauty and the beast romance, so if we dont get a woofie a giant lizard will do  a tsundere scaled one that find out other races are not that bad? DAMN I CRI |
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Post by KingDarious BBB on Dec 28, 2018 23:48:19 GMT
As of right now I really want Vaea to be the main straight male romance option.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 28, 2018 23:49:32 GMT
As of right now I really want Vaea to be the main straight male Ace romance option. FTFY |
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