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Me, too evidently

To better answer Nick's question, I'm trying to think of non-Bioware characters I'd build Thedosian characters out of.

Safiya from NWN2: MotB - which was technically Obsidian not Bioware sooo) - she was a beautiful Red Wizard of Thay (basically Tevinter, "slavers, demonologists, and magical experimenters"). Unlike her countrymen she was Neutral rather than Evil-aligned, she wasn't actively malicious but also thought nothing of keeping souls in jars because Red Wizards gonna Red Wizard. She was a teacher at the Circle Academy of Shapers and Binders, she was practical and studious but a bit reticent and so cripplingly lonely she made some ugly-cute homunculi to keep her company. I LOVE HER SO MUCH. She reminds me a little of Calpernia or Cassandra but without the Big Goals (and uh, no qualms about shady magic, so maybe less Cassandra ).

I'm sure most straight dudes wanting a Bethany who isn't related to them just want to fuck her, but for the rest of us...

I like Bethany more than Carver. I thought Bethany was very sweet, and it was interesting how she wasn't THAT reluctant to go to the Circle. She seemed to fear her own magic. She also deeply resented becoming a Warden, which always pains me a bit because that's what I did to her in my canon. I really should fix that in the Keep.

I really see no reason why mage Hawke makes more narrative sense, none at all. Magic and the Circle and templars are always part of the DA narrative, and I actually have no canon mages and feel very connected to each story. 

Carver's such an asshole, but I won't deny that he does bring a lot to the story. I just can't stand him! I'm glad we have the option to have a loving relationship with our sibling because that is something I personally can relate to. I can't relate to having a sibling who would literally do what Carver did (join the templars when I'm a mage). What a piece of shit.

For starters, she can be your motivation for all of Act 1, whereas Carver whines when he has no personal stakes in the matter. Then in Act 3 her being in the Circle can be a driving force in Hawke wanting to deescalate the situation, where Carver as a Templar isn't in as much danger since he can just leave. 

Both, as interesting (no quotes ) as a character only available in act 1 can be. It’s not an objective thing. To me, Carver is not interesting AND I don’t like him.

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Definitely don't want to derail this thread, so maybe we can move this to the DA2 subforum.  I've yet to see why Bethany is interesting though.  Like I get it, you don't like Carver.  But that doesn't make Bethany an interesting character.  It makes her your preferred choice over him.  But it doesn't make her interesting.  I'm not trying to sealion here.  I am truly baffled on what people like about her.  The Pro-Circle and Anti-Grey Warden things are interesting enough, especially the latter.  But that all happens after she's gone from the party.  Maybe I'm overthinking it.  LOL. 

I like them both, but I do prefer Carver. Not because he's a stronger character, but because apparently I love cantankerous woobies written by Luke Kristjanson. I find him incredibly likeable and always make him a Warden so lil bro's happy and feels good about himself. 👍

I think he's definitely a stronger character, and I always make him a templar for the sake of the drama.

Also, given the opportunity in another game, I'd be down to clown with Carver.

Well as a player I'm not super bothered, although I hate Templars and I think it's transparently obvious that Carver makes that choice purely to hurt his family.

But as a semi-director of the story, I make the choices that I think would create the most interesting narrative, and Templar Carver and Mage Hawke's relationship triumphing over adversity is waaaaaaay more interesting than either warden sibling's "just happened to be in town" or Circle Bethany's "stand there and be killed if Hawke tells me to" scenarios.

Well, it is either a Lyrium addiction or the Blight slowly consuming him, so...

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