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Post by fenris on Oct 12, 2016 21:17:07 GMT
So I'' playing ME1, and Kaiden mentioned that the alliance brout a Turian to help train them in biotics, which made me think - have we seen a biotic Turian in the game? Have we seen any Turian using Biotics?
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Post by themikefest on Oct 12, 2016 21:30:38 GMT
Nyreen was the only turian that used biotics. That was in the Omega dlc.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 22:26:04 GMT
Biotics, heh. I spent most of the game wondering if there are Turian women... codex mentions them though, and so does Garrus.
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Post by crashsuit on Oct 12, 2016 23:19:14 GMT
It's tangential to the campaign, maybe, but over in ME3's multiplayer, two of the six Turian kits have biotic abilities.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 12, 2016 23:52:10 GMT
During the first battle on Virmire (just yesterday), Saren hit me with what I swear was a warp. However, I would tend to agree, in spite of that initial indication by Kaidan, the Turians are largely portrayed as not being biotics. In fact, Nyreen clearly indicates that she was shunned by the Turian military when her biotics talents started to become apparent.
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Post by shechinah on Oct 12, 2016 23:55:49 GMT
Yes, both in single player and multiplayer. As mentioned above, there is Nyreen Kandros from Mass Effect 3's Omega DLC but there is also Saren Arterius from the first Mass Effect. Turian biotics are uncommon, however, which would explain why we've seen so few. They also tend to be distrusted by the general military and are relegated to special units called Cabals, whcih are employed for key missiona.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 13, 2016 0:25:40 GMT
Yes, both in single player and multiplayer. As mentioned above, there is Nyreen Kandros from Mass Effect 3's Omega DLC but there is also Saren Arterius from the first Mass Effect. Turian biotics are uncommon, however, which would explain why we've seen so few. They also tend to be distrusted by the general military and are relegated to special units called Cabals, whcih are employed for key missiona. You stole the words from my mouth  Yep, I got the impression Saren was a Sentinel. I wonder if there are any biotic salarians or quarians (or maybe Ians  )? Mordin was originally going to be a biotic god, so I would think some salarians would have them even if rare. Or, given their love of science/genetic engineering etc. they could be experimenting with making Biotics on purpose? It's hard to say for the quarians given their home/suits. There are batarian and vorcha biotics in MP as well. |
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Post by shechinah on Oct 13, 2016 0:37:29 GMT
Yes, both in single player and multiplayer. As mentioned above, there is Nyreen Kandros from Mass Effect 3's Omega DLC but there is also Saren Arterius from the first Mass Effect. Turian biotics are uncommon, however, which would explain why we've seen so few. They also tend to be distrusted by the general military and are relegated to special units called Cabals, whcih are employed for key missiona. You stole the words from my mouth Yep, I got the impression Saren was a Sentinel. I wonder if there are any biotic salarians or quarians (or maybe Ians )? Mordin was originally going to be a biotic god, so I would think some salarians would have them even if rare. Or, given their love of science/genetic engineering etc. they could be experimenting with making Biotics on purpose? It's hard to say for the quarians given their home/suits. There are batarian and vorcha biotics in MP as well. Quarian biotics are very rare but do exist according to a quote from Tali in the first Mass Effect. I don't have time to find the quote at present time, however, since it would involve shifting through dialogue videos. Their rarity is probably because they wear enviromental suits so it would be difficult especially for pregnant quarians to be exposed to eezo. Eezo exposure in the womb is how non-asari biotics occur. In most cases of eezo exposure, however, the fetuses develop brain tumors or other complications.
Salarian biotics also exist and are considered unusual as well as highly prized. The salarian military does not risk them in the frontline and instead places them in intelligence services.
Note: I think Tali indicate that biotic quarian do exist but it may be that she simply speculates that it is possible for a quarian to manifest biotic talents.
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Post by Gourmetrix on Oct 13, 2016 2:20:16 GMT
Saren casts Throw at Shepard in his first cutscene on Virmire, and I've been hit with his warp too. It's his tech skills that are the most memorable (and infuriating).
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Post by crashsuit on Oct 13, 2016 2:40:38 GMT
Yes, both in single player and multiplayer. As mentioned above, there is Nyreen Kandros from Mass Effect 3's Omega DLC but there is also Saren Arterius from the first Mass Effect. Turian biotics are uncommon, however, which would explain why we've seen so few. They also tend to be distrusted by the general military and are relegated to special units called Cabals, whcih are employed for key missiona. You stole the words from my mouth Yep, I got the impression Saren was a Sentinel. I wonder if there are any biotic salarians or quarians (or maybe Ians )? Mordin was originally going to be a biotic god, so I would think some salarians would have them even if rare. Or, given their love of science/genetic engineering etc. they could be experimenting with making Biotics on purpose? It's hard to say for the quarians given their home/suits. There are batarian and vorcha biotics in MP as well. There's a Vorcha soldier, engineer, and sentinel, but I'm not sure any of them have any biotic abilities. |
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Post by Sah291 on Oct 14, 2016 14:18:18 GMT
It seems like Turian biotics are rare, but the ones they do have are quite powerful. Perhaps a bit like the Qunari attitude about mages in Dragon Age (maybe not as extreme though). They aren't a very biotic trusting culture and they keep the ones they have on a tight leash, but Turian biotics can be pretty powerful.
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 14, 2016 19:33:32 GMT
You stole the words from my mouth Yep, I got the impression Saren was a Sentinel. I wonder if there are any biotic salarians or quarians (or maybe Ians )? Mordin was originally going to be a biotic god, so I would think some salarians would have them even if rare. Or, given their love of science/genetic engineering etc. they could be experimenting with making Biotics on purpose? It's hard to say for the quarians given their home/suits. There are batarian and vorcha biotics in MP as well. Quarian biotics are very rare but do exist according to a quote from Tali in the first Mass Effect. I don't have time to find the quote at present time, however, since it would involve shifting through dialogue videos. Their rarity is probably because they wear enviromental suits so it would be difficult especially for pregnant quarians to be exposed to eezo. Eezo exposure in the womb is how non-asari biotics occur. In most cases of eezo exposure, however, the fetuses develop brain tumors or other complications.
Salarian biotics also exist and are considered unusual as well as highly prized. The salarian military does not risk them in the frontline and instead places them in intelligence services.
Note: I think Tali indicate that biotic quarian do exist but it may be that she simply speculates that it is possible for a quarian to manifest biotic talents.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing about the suits making it difficult. I had forgotten about any info from Tali about them or about salarians because I haven't played in years (wow), so thanks! Saren casts Throw at Shepard in his first cutscene on Virmire, and I've been hit with his warp too. It's his tech skills that are the most memorable (and infuriating). Aha, I guess I remembered right that he was a Sentinel  I roleplay all of my MP characters, and my Turian Sentinel is Saren You stole the words from my mouth Yep, I got the impression Saren was a Sentinel. I wonder if there are any biotic salarians or quarians (or maybe Ians )? Mordin was originally going to be a biotic god, so I would think some salarians would have them even if rare. Or, given their love of science/genetic engineering etc. they could be experimenting with making Biotics on purpose? It's hard to say for the quarians given their home/suits. There are batarian and vorcha biotics in MP as well. There's a Vorcha soldier, engineer, and sentinel, but I'm not sure any of them have any biotic abilities. The Sentinel has Cluster Grenades, which are multiple Lift Grenades. Lift Grenades only make sense if they are biotically charged by their thrower, so... |
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Post by crashsuit on Oct 14, 2016 21:30:58 GMT
The Sentinel has Cluster Grenades, which are multiple Lift Grenades. Lift Grenades only make sense if they are biotically charged by their thrower, so... Good point. I did some digging into the lore, and while I had trouble finding any official info about lift grenades, it seems that as far as people can tell, they contain a bit of eezo that's biotically charged by the user, so I guess that does make the Vorcha Sentinel a biotic. I ran the numbers on all the MP races, and here are the ratios of biotics to total numbers: Human - 9 of 21 Asari - 5 of 5 Turian - 2 of 6 Salarian - 0 of 2 Drell - 2 of 3 Quarian - 0 of 5 Krogan - 4 of 5 Batarian - 3 of 4 Vorcha - 1 of 3 Volus - 2 of 4 Synthetics - 0 of 5 Collector - 1 of 1 I'm not sure how representative these are of the general populaces though. I'm guessing we'd see a greater concentration of biotic individuals in the fighting forces than among the civilians. |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 16, 2016 21:19:36 GMT
The Sentinel has Cluster Grenades, which are multiple Lift Grenades. Lift Grenades only make sense if they are biotically charged by their thrower, so... Good point. I did some digging into the lore, and while I had trouble finding any official info about lift grenades, it seems that as far as people can tell, they contain a bit of eezo that's biotically charged by the user, so I guess that does make the Vorcha Sentinel a biotic. I ran the numbers on all the MP races, and here are the ratios of biotics to total numbers: Human - 9 of 21 Asari - 5 of 5 Turian - 2 of 6 Salarian - 0 of 2 Drell - 2 of 3 Quarian - 0 of 5 Krogan - 4 of 5 Batarian - 3 of 4 Vorcha - 1 of 3 Volus - 2 of 4 Synthetics - 0 of 5 Collector - 1 of 1 I'm not sure how representative these are of the general populaces though. I'm guessing we'd see a greater concentration of biotic individuals in the fighting forces than among the civilians. Thanks. Yeah, the lore doesn't say much about them, but I don't think it would make much sense if they didn't need a biotic user, because then there would be no reason why non-biotic classes couldn't use them, and more importantly for the lore, it would basically mean you can seal biotics in a can for later use  Huh, didn't realize the humans were that even. If the Paladin had biotics, that would make it as close to half as you can get, which makes sense considering half of the classes have biotics (and half also have tech and combat powers). And I never really realized that 4/5 krogan have biotics  But yeah, it's probably not a great indicator for population %s both because of what you said and because of out-of-universe reasons to make the classes balanced (29/64 have biotics). Not exactly on-topic, but I wonder if it's possible for synthetics to have biotics. Obviously they wouldn't acquire them in-utero or anything like that, but theoretically, they could control the necessary impulses to the eezo nodules in their bodies (placed there on purpose) much more precisely than any organic. A synthetic Biotic would be scary  |
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Post by crashsuit on Oct 16, 2016 23:17:02 GMT
I wonder if it's possible for synthetics to have biotics. With enough space magic, anything is possible! |
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Post by dmc1001 on Oct 16, 2016 23:27:58 GMT
Biotics, heh. I spent most of the game wondering if there are Turian women... codex mentions them though, and so does Garrus. In Citadel DLC, Shepard and Garrus (non-romanced) meet at the bar in the Silver Coast Casino. Shepard tries to set Garrus up with a turian female who was checking Garrus out. Also, Nyreen Kantros mentioned from the Omega DLC is both biotic and female. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2016 1:17:37 GMT
Biotics, heh. I spent most of the game wondering if there are Turian women... codex mentions them though, and so does Garrus. In Citadel DLC, Shepard and Garrus (non-romanced) meet at the bar in the Silver Coast Casino. Shepard tries to set Garrus up with a turian female who was checking Garrus out. Also, Nyreen Kantros mentioned from the Omega DLC is both biotic and female. In vanilla game, Garrus tells the female PC a story about his old girlfriend, but in the game itself, I have not seen any Turians with breasts. |
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Post by BansheeOwnage on Oct 19, 2016 21:16:46 GMT
I wonder if it's possible for synthetics to have biotics. With enough space magic, anything is possible  Holy crap, Juggernaut with Biotic Charge would be so useful!  Biotics, heh. I spent most of the game wondering if there are Turian women... codex mentions them though, and so does Garrus. In Citadel DLC, Shepard and Garrus (non-romanced) meet at the bar in the Silver Coast Casino. Shepard tries to set Garrus up with a turian female who was checking Garrus out. Also, Nyreen Kantros mentioned from the Omega DLC is both biotic and female. I think they were making fun of the fact that it took until DLC of the 3rd game to show any female turians (other species' track records are just as bad). In Citadel DLC, Shepard and Garrus (non-romanced) meet at the bar in the Silver Coast Casino. Shepard tries to set Garrus up with a turian female who was checking Garrus out. Also, Nyreen Kantros mentioned from the Omega DLC is both biotic and female. In vanilla game, Garrus tells the female PC a story about his old girlfriend, but in the game itself, I have not seen any Turians with breasts. And a non-human female needs breasts because...? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2016 21:47:04 GMT
In vanilla game, Garrus tells the female PC a story about his old girlfriend, but in the game itself, I have not seen any Turians with breasts. And a non-human female needs breasts because...? Not sure, but it seems that they all do, as means of easy visual ID. Boobs aside, none of the Turians started a dialogue with me with: "Between us, girls..." or "By the way, Shepard, I am a girl..." I do find the thought that Garrus might be a female intriguing and novel. Until that chat with Garrus, I thought maybe Turians are a counterpoint to the asari. |
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Post by gothpunkboy89 on Oct 20, 2016 1:17:40 GMT
I wonder if it's possible for synthetics to have biotics. With enough space magic, anything is possible! I want that now |
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Post by Sentinel2010 on Oct 20, 2016 5:24:07 GMT
I remember the Salarian Engineer in the Citadel's game center said something about "Cabal" with that Tsen.
Does that mean a Turian Sentinel is supposed to be a Cabal member? He is a biotic indeed.
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)? Mordin was originally going to be a biotic god, so I would think some salarians would have them even if rare. Or, given their love of science/genetic engineering etc. they could be experimenting with making Biotics on purpose? It's hard to say for the quarians given their home/suits. There are batarian and vorcha biotics in MP as well.
I roleplay all of my MP characters, and my Turian Sentinel is Saren 
But yeah, it's probably not a great indicator for population %s both because of what you said and because of out-of-universe reasons to make the classes balanced (29/64 have biotics).
