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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 8, 2018 18:36:25 GMT
It´s time that Maevaris Tilani gets her own thread. I really would love to see Mae as companion in DA 4.
Also its the perfect opportunity for Bioware. Mae has one big advantage over a new transgender NPC (besides Crem but he could be dead) she is already well-established in the franchise. A new transgender would feel a bit forced but Mae would feel natural. If Bioware have ever considered a transgender companion well it should be Maevaris Tilani.
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 8, 2018 18:46:03 GMT
I don't think a new trans character would feel "forced" at all - no more than the bajillions of cis characters have felt "forced".
But I do really like Mae as a character - and her history with Thorold and Varric and Dorian - and am hoping to get to know her as a companion or at least as a prominent NPC in DA4.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2018 18:56:30 GMT
While I don’t know if she will be a companion or not, I can definitely see her being on the same tier as the advisors in DAI. For example she would help us in political matters like Josephine did.
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Post by smilesja on Dec 8, 2018 18:57:23 GMT
I can already hear the anti social justice brigade screeching. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png)
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Post by cerulione on Dec 8, 2018 18:58:14 GMT
I don't think a new trans character would feel "forced" at all - no more than the bajillions of cis characters have felt "forced". But I do really like Mae as a character - and her history with Thorold and Varric and Dorian - and am hoping to get to know her as a companion or at least as a prominent NPC in DA4. You have a point there, although it can be pretty interesting to see a new trans character that's NOT from Tevinter and Mae. Like, a Qunari trans character (NOT Tal-Vashoth), or Orlesian one. Possibly a closeted one and Mae. Or damn Krem and Mae. It's something I'd love to see in Thedas, how different cultures treat the trans character differently? Bull suggests that in Qunari, being transgender is something pretty acceptable (at least in Theory of the Qun), but I wonder how an Orlesian transgender, a Fereldan transgender etc would be treated.
Anyway for all that is holy, please do not make Mae a Necromancer. I just pretty damn hate that class since Dorian keep ressurecting dead bodies and I have glitches with it often. Anything else but not Necromancer for Dread Wolf's saggy pant's sake.
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Post by lilyenachaos on Dec 8, 2018 19:08:11 GMT
I'd love to see her as an advisor, but I can't see them making her a companion, simply because of her position in Tevinter. She's not gonna start running around in the trenches full time with us.
Then again everyone thinks Dorian will be coming back as an advisor and do we really need 2 advisors coming from the same place/position/background? Who knows what they're planning.
I'm good either way. I really like what we know of her so far.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2018 19:08:25 GMT
We know at least one character from the comics that would get along with Mae, at least from first impressions as the game could change that: Maevaris lives her truth, and Vaea would absolutely admire that about her. I suspect they'd get along well.
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Post by jadedragon on Dec 8, 2018 19:09:01 GMT
I am all for either Mae or Calperina being our companion. I'd be happy with a Alister/Loghain situation with them because I would legit do two plays. Real question is would they be go the extra mile and make her romancable?
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 8, 2018 19:12:01 GMT
I can already hear the anti social justice brigade screeching. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png) And thats the reason to use an already well-established character as the first transgender than creating a new one. I know that a lot of people don´t care and would still hate it but Mae isn´t new. Mae already exist since August 2012 when the first issue of Dragon Age: Those Who Speak was released.
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Post by ellanathehamster on Dec 8, 2018 19:13:52 GMT
I'd love to have Maevaris as companion! I really liked her in comics and DA table mission- and I think she will definitely play a role in DA4, if not as companion, then for sure as major npc. Though i must add- adding someone just to fill "quota" is generally a bad idea and it makes disservice to trans people, as if stating, that how they identifying themselves is the most important thing. I'd rather have character, who has charisma, personality and well written story, who happens to be trans, not the other way around.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 8, 2018 19:17:10 GMT
I'd love to see her as an advisor, but I can't see them making her a companion, simply because of her position in Tevinter. She's not gonna start running around in the trenches full time with us. Then again everyone thinks Dorian will be coming back as an advisor and do we really need 2 advisors coming from the same place/position/background? Who knows what they're planning. I'm good either way. I really like what we know of her so far. And why not have Dorian as advisor and Leader of Lucerni Faction and Mae joins us. It reminds me a lot of Cassandra and Leliana. It would also be better if Cassandra won´t have joined the Inquisitors party as companion but she did regardless.
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Post by smilesja on Dec 8, 2018 19:24:52 GMT
I can already hear the anti social justice brigade screeching. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/RebJidSPcxyF0U0Rr0uW.png) And thats the reason to use an already well-established character as the first transgender than creating a new one. I know that a lot of people don´t care and would still hate it but Mae isn´t new. Mae already exist since August 2012 when the first issue of Dragon Age: Those Who Speak was released.
Trust me, the simple fact that Mae is trans is all that’s needed to spark outrage regardless of the fact she’s an old character.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 8, 2018 19:29:13 GMT
I am all for either Mae or Calperina being our companion. I'd be happy with a Alister/Loghain situation with them because I would legit do two plays. Why not both? ![;)](http://storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uYQYVMAupPAfTXFFwWlB.png) Morrigan and Wynne was also possible in DAO.
I don´t think so but thats ok. Maybe she is the new Aveline in this regard.
A companion who we have to pair with someone. Maybe a new dwarven lover? But i would be cool if she would be a male dwarf only romance but that´s almost impossible.
Trust me, the simple fact that Mae is trans is all that’s needed to spark outrage regardless of the fact she’s an old character. I know. ![:why:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/MVXW0DmcTsJZlBSSOwAc.png) Some players (but not the majority) would hate Mae just for existing. But who cares? Dorian was great and so was Juhani. Crem was an good improvement over Serendipity but he was a bit boring in personality for my taste.
Sorry Crem Fans.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Dec 8, 2018 19:38:17 GMT
I am all for either Mae or Calperina being our companion. I'd be happy with a Alister/Loghain situation with them because I would legit do two plays. Real question is would they be go the extra mile and make her romancable? If they did, I imagine that she would be among the extra options. By extra options I mean if there are 8 LIs again I imagine they'll do a 2/2/2 split so that everyone has options, and then a couple more. So perhaps a trans romance with Mae and then an Ace romance with another character or something like that.
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Post by natetrace on Dec 8, 2018 19:57:38 GMT
You want this!? Think of the YouTube videos! Have mercy on us! All the money the right wing YouTube channels will make off of this decision. I mean, they say they hate it but they do make money off their followers and views for this sort of thing. I think they secretly love it...
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Post by boxofscreaming on Dec 8, 2018 19:59:09 GMT
I'm all for transgender companions if they can come up with a good one, but I'd prefer not to have companions who originate in tie-in literature - it annoyed me with Cole since it felt like I was missing half the story with him.
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Post by Mresa on Dec 8, 2018 20:04:34 GMT
I'd definitely want to see her in major role, whether it's a companion or advisor. I feel like she would fit a role of an advisor better, she has the connections and while being an advisor she would still mingle around all those contacts instead of running around as a companion. And as a romance, mmmmmm I don't know. That would really depend has she gotten over Thorold in a way that she can move forward with deeper romantic feelings. Hard to say since there's not a lot description of her on a personal level.
Really looking forward to seeing her in game. Considering how good anthem looks, how the people look in it. DA4 might look pretty spectacular.
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Post by gangrelbeckett on Dec 8, 2018 20:12:35 GMT
I'm all for transgender companions if they can come up with a good one, but I'd prefer not to have companions who originate in tie-in literature - it annoyed me with Cole since it felt like I was missing half the story with him. Maes Comic Story is finished. The only important thing from the Comic is that Mae is the widow of Varric cousin Thorold Tethras and that must be all. Also if you miss something you always have the option to read her Wiki article.
Cole works for me. I read the Asunder novel after playing DAI but didn´t miss much. Bioware repeats alot of stuff about Asunder in DAI. But The Masked Empire characters weren´t this good.
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Post by jadedragon on Dec 8, 2018 20:25:32 GMT
I am all for either Mae or Calperina being our companion. I'd be happy with a Alister/Loghain situation with them because I would legit do two plays. Real question is would they be go the extra mile and make her romancable? If they did, I imagine that she would be among the extra options. By extra options I mean if there are 8 LIs again I imagine they'll do a 2/2/2 split so that everyone has options, and then a couple more. So perhaps a trans romance with Mae and then an Ace romance with another character or something like that. That would best option in my opinion. I wouldn't include her romance in the original count just more like a extra romance like how Solas became a extra romance. I don't see Bioware adding a trans companion often outside of Maevaris due to it making sense to the plot and not a random add on. So why not get the most out of it now
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Post by Nightscrawl on Dec 8, 2018 20:33:47 GMT
A companion who we have to pair with someone. I prefer that our PC not play matchmaker...
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Post by ellehaym on Dec 8, 2018 21:05:46 GMT
I think it was a wasted opportunity that Mae wasn't mentioned between Dorian and Varric's banters since both know her
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Post by 10k on Dec 8, 2018 21:09:28 GMT
Well as being part of the "Anti-SJW brigade" I would hope that the character has more personality than just being trans. That was the issue with Krem and any other trans BW characters BW has done. Why can't the person just be a person, who cares if they're trans or not. Putting too much emphasis on a character's identity or sexuality is just uninteresting; and that goes for any character. Sure have this character, but I don't want an entire lecture about how they are trans. If the topic comes up, let it come up naturally. For example; If the player tries to romance that character. Otherwise there is no reason for the character to say "oh by the way, I'm trans." At that point it causes me to roll my eyes, and it does feel "forced" or as if BW is checking off boxes. Anyway that's just my 2 cents.
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Post by NotN7 on Dec 8, 2018 21:31:33 GMT
Well as being part of the "Anti-SJW brigade" I would hope that the character has more personality than just being trans. That was the issue with Krem and any other trans BW characters BW has done. Why can't the person just be a person, who cares if they're trans or not. Putting too much emphasis on a character's identity or sexuality is just uninteresting; and that goes for any character. Sure have this character, but I don't want an entire lecture about how they are trans. If the topic comes up, let it come up naturally. For example; If the player tries to romance that character. Otherwise there is no reason for the character to say "oh by the way, I'm trans." At that point it causes me to roll my eyes, and it does feel "forced" or as if BW is checking off boxes. Anyway that's just my 2 cents. I agree so what a companion is trans, gay, or other in real life to me you are a person you are no different than me in the respect that I try to engage a lady but get shot down same goes for the ladies if I don't connect with you yes you'll get shot down if your a guy trying to hit on me guess what its sorry but I like women , simply put I don't care who you sleep with enjoying being with or if your genes are all screwed up and you identifies as a different sex, you are who you are that cannot change and I'm not going to try and change you. to hell with society and their screwed views, live your life just pls don't try to force it on me. and i'll be one of your biggest frends .
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Post by vertigomez on Dec 8, 2018 21:36:06 GMT
Patrick Weekes already made it clear that if he was to write a romance with a trans character, it would be more than "the trans romance" - there would be as much love and thought put into it as any other.
From an interview with BioFan:
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Post by arcanistranger on Dec 8, 2018 21:39:31 GMT
Not going to happen. BioWare's last game got slandered just because a bunch of raging neo-Nazi troglodytes shit their pants about the game, then gaming journalists saw that horde of psychotic losers and decided they wanted rabid assholes like that to be their audience.
If Maevaris was included, gaming journalists would once again gladly invent bullshit to attack the game with, just to get clicks from human garbage.
Such a shame, really.
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