The Maevaris Tilani Discussion Thread

Wew lad.

I see some people saying the far right would have a issue with this. I agree with that sentiment, but to be fair I can also see some people on the far left causing a shit storm. For example let's say she's a romance option, and some people don't want to romance her because of their own personal preference. I can easily see a Riley Dennis making a video talking about it and making it a bigger deal than it really is.

To be "far", no one on the "far-left" complaining about something in a BioWare game has ever threatened to kill the developers.

Sure. One side wished for more romance options, the other side threatened to rape and kill women who worked on the game because Peebee was "ugly."

Both sides, yanno.

Would love this. She's a great character with a lot of potential, and I think she'd add a lot of interesting dialogue if she were to be a companion.

Her presence may cause a stir and people may be vocal... but in the end, there's no such thing as "forced diversity." You've either taught yourself to be a decent human being with an open mind or you're a fossil who comes up with terms like "forced diversity" to cover your racism, sexism, homophobia and transphobia.

Suppose I see what you mean by a "token character" and no, I wouldn't want Dorian or Maevaris around just because of their sexuality or gender, but that's rarely ever the case and furthermore, I don't think it justifies the abhorrent backlash that games and movies sometimes receive over it. Diversity is a real thing too and people exist the way they are without purposefully inserting themselves in any setting. It just is.

When one really analyzes a character, you'll find that very rarely is a character inserted into any video game or movie solely on the reason for their sexuality, gender or skin color. Sure, the topic may come up in conversation and this is where people lose their minds, but the characters usually ALWAYS have a defining addition like a skill or trait or even a fitting background story that amplifies the setting and story. I think people forget these other credible and defining traits because they so quickly and easily get hung up on that characters sexuality, gender or skin color and can't look past that.

Krem, for example, was trans. People complained "forced diversity." But how different is that in real life? Not very. It is just as likely you'll run into a trans person in a pub in real life as the Inquisitor would in Thedas. Krem was so much more than just being trans, yet I read in YouTube comments that people chose to kill the Bull's Chargers in the Storm Coast purely because of Krem being trans. It's silly that those victimizing themselves over "forced diversity" are the ones who end up pulling off this shallow "forced non-diversity" stunt. 

I don't really understand the '' add diversity because the cast feels too one-sided ''  being a bad thing. What are you afraid of happening, that the diverse characters aren't as well written?
Adding several diverse characters will handled that '' the minority character '' issue though, but nobody ever suggests that adding more than one would kind of erase the issue of being a token.

I wouldn’t justify any of that. I prefer not to speak of generalities though. My experience hasn’t been that there are only two sides to the conversation, or that criticisms of the way diversity is handled is limited only to those motivated by prejudice.

Diversity is real and there’s absolutely nothing wrong with portraying it. Forced diversity isn’t really a diversity problem, it’s a pandering problem. That being said, I’ve become a bit jaded from experience with people who seem to think diversity being good means there should be a mandate on media to be diverse, which I don’t agree with, such as the backlash in some corners trying to tar CDPR as a bunch of racists because The Witcher trilogy cast is entirely white.

The problem lies in the diagnosis that a superficially homogenous cast is inherently a bad thing to be corrected.

That’s not an argument against a superficially diverse cast, but neither is one inherently more interesting or better.

Hmjmmmh I guess that's true. But I definitely think that deciding on wanting to have a homogenous cast in a piece of media which has a setting that has all the possibility to be diverse, does raise my eyebrow. But having entertainment that doesn't aim for diversity at any level despite having a setting that doesn't go against diversity, it wouldn't be such a problem for some would there be more media that did have that diversity. 

But nevertheless, artists have all the right to express themselves and create whatever they please, that should never change, and neither my right to raise my bushy eyebrows. 

But the Witcher thing is just totally stupid, historically accurate pieces of media should remain historically accurate.