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Post by smilesja on Jul 30, 2024 6:09:34 GMT
A month or so ago, someone who’d played the game (can’t for the life of me remember who/where, but either here or BW’s official Discord), said something like “some things are better left for the future”, when asked about Hawke/Stroud or whoever was left in the Fade - and that the Devs are focused on the main game rn. Anyone else thinking, Fade rescue mission DLC, possibly? 🧐 I can't believe that they're going to abandon that plotline, ESPECIALLY when the potential victim is your character. I hope we do find out what happened to Hawke or whoever you left behind in the fade in the future.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 30, 2024 6:15:27 GMT
A month or so ago, someone who’d played the game (can’t for the life of me remember who/where, but either here or BW’s official Discord), said something like “some things are better left for the future”, when asked about Hawke/Stroud or whoever was left in the Fade - and that the Devs are focused on the main game rn. Anyone else thinking, Fade rescue mission DLC, possibly? 🧐 I can't believe that they're going to abandon that plotline, ESPECIALLY when the potential victim is your character. I hope we do find out what happened to Hawke or whoever you left behind in the fade in the future. the plot line has been resolved unless Bioware decides to reopen it. The consequences of the choice were clear.
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Post by saandrig on Jul 30, 2024 6:40:15 GMT
Hawke die?
Have you played the games? Yes? Am I missing something? The worst thing that can possibly happen to Hawke in this scenario, and I do mean the worst thing, is that after a while a Fade rift opens and Hawke drops down from it right into the Arishok's lap
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Post by Liepsnele on Jul 30, 2024 7:01:49 GMT
A month or so ago, someone who’d played the game (can’t for the life of me remember who/where, but either here or BW’s official Discord), said something like “some things are better left for the future”, when asked about Hawke/Stroud or whoever was left in the Fade - and that the Devs are focused on the main game rn. Anyone else thinking, Fade rescue mission DLC, possibly? 🧐 I can't believe that they're going to abandon that plotline, ESPECIALLY when the potential victim is your character. I hope we do find out what happened to Hawke or whoever you left behind in the fade in the future. The plotline is resolve in my eyes. Inquisition needed some difficult choices implemented, and who stayed behind was one (the only?) in the game. The person who stayed behind seems to have died. I don't think every death has to involve a surprise plot where the person in question actually didn't die
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 30, 2024 7:17:05 GMT
Also the fact none of them recognized her at all has me really worried she’s not in the game. I remember John mentioning working hard to get DAI romance cut scenes to work with qunari and dwarves. Of course John remembers Josephine. He also didn’t work on her cutscenes in DAI. That was Richard Boisvert. John worked to make it work for The Iron Bull. I think you may have your answer there Hanako. If Josephine makes a cameo appearance in game then I doubt John worked on that scene. Has he actually played the entire game through from start to finish? If Josephine was to make an appearance it would most likely be in connection with Antiva. However, Josephine does not approve of the Crows and likely wouldn't have any contacts there, so perhaps it is encouraging that John didn't remember Josephine because that means she hasn't been ruined by an unsatisfactory cameo that has her associating with people she would never have gone near in DAI. More likely she will just be mentioned by the Inquisitor if they romanced her.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 30, 2024 7:24:13 GMT
Anyone else thinking, Fade rescue mission DLC, possibly? 🧐 It was more likely saying that if they cover it at all it will be with a confirmation that they are dead and perhaps in the future this will be addressed. I highly doubt there will be a DLC that would involve this plot specifically. I suppose if the game is a really big success they might do a DLC called "Return to the Fade". This would involve the Fade Survivor, Solas, the Inquisitor, Rook, Spirit Cole, Corypheus (looking a bit ropey owing to the hole in his middle) and anyone else with a strong connection to the Fade. They have a big reunion party with all the Old Gods and Evanuris, like the Citadel DLC on steriods. It will be a blast!
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Post by Reznore on Jul 30, 2024 7:31:28 GMT
Sooo...can somebody explain to me what the devs are doing? I watched the video for Romance, Banish, Befriend and it was mostly about old DA characters?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 30, 2024 7:47:03 GMT
Also the fact none of them recognized her at all has me really worried she’s not in the game. I remember John mentioning working hard to get DAI romance cut scenes to work with qunari and dwarves. Of course John remembers Josephine. He also didn’t work on her cutscenes in DAI. That was Richard Boisvert. John worked to make it work for The Iron Bull. I think you may have your answer there Hanako. If Josephine makes a cameo appearance in game then I doubt John worked on that scene. Has he actually played the entire game through from start to finish? If Josephine was to make an appearance it would most likely be in connection with Antiva. However, Josephine does not approve of the Crows and likely wouldn't have any contacts there, so perhaps it is encouraging that John didn't remember Josephine because that means she hasn't been ruined by an unsatisfactory cameo that has her associating with people she would never have gone near in DAI. More likely she will just be mentioned by the Inquisitor if they romanced her. The Creative Director, Game Director, and Creative Performance Director were there, so I’d assume one of them would recognize the name if she’s in the game. That is true I suppose. It does bode well for her not suddenly being allied with the Crows or something against her character. Though that also probably means our only real point of contact with Antiva is the Crows and their associates rather than having access to others there who wouldn't, which means we probably are forced to work with and support them instead of having options.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 30, 2024 8:15:37 GMT
Though that also probably means our only real point of contact with Antiva is the Crows and their associates rather than having access to others there who wouldn't, which means we probably are forced to work with and support them instead of having options. This is true but it wouldn't be the first time a Bioware game has required us to choose the lesser of two evils, in this case working with the Crows to protect Antiva or see it fall. That may be a general theme of the game even though the reason they gave for ruling our blood magic for our PC or their team and restricting it to just the bad guys, hopefully means they won't require us to do anything that totally offends our moral sensibilities. Further examples of morally ambiguous choices: Accepting Solas' advice and working with him in order to defeat the Evanuris. Working with the Shadow Dragons to defeat the Venatori even though we discover their leader, the Viper, is not a morally upright individual. Working with one faction of the Necromancers of the Grand Necropolis (Mourn Watch) against the elite (Mortalitassi) who are collaborating with the Venatori - hopefully Emmrich can make this seem less distasteful but my general attitude to their activities is that it is creepy.
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Post by Reznore on Jul 30, 2024 8:25:47 GMT
Probably no Josephine/Zevran. Or if they are here, in a very minor role. I understand Inigo Montoya has a whole family of Crows from cousin to grandma we'll probably have to deal with. Also if memory serves Zevran was not on good terms with the Crows?
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jul 30, 2024 8:43:30 GMT
Who Would You Romance? Dragon Age: The VeilguardLucy and Tam are joined by Bioware developers and voice actors Ali Hillis, Ashley Barlow, John Epler, and Corinne Busche to decide on whether to befriend, romance, or banish the Dragon Age cast. Hate how they used a modded image of Josephine. Also the fact none of them recognized her at all has me really worried she’s not in the game. You mean relieved right? xD Like, I'm scared they put Fenris in the game, as that could result in him dying or saying that he left my Hawke. So if he doesn't show up I'm good lol.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 30, 2024 10:00:22 GMT
Who Would You Romance? Dragon Age: The VeilguardLucy and Tam are joined by Bioware developers and voice actors Ali Hillis, Ashley Barlow, John Epler, and Corinne Busche to decide on whether to befriend, romance, or banish the Dragon Age cast. Hate how they used a modded image of Josephine. Also the fact none of them recognized her at all has me really worried she’s not in the game. I think you should watch it again. Epler and Corrin remember her. Epler want to say something, but they explain her before he have a chance.
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Post by fairdragon on Jul 30, 2024 10:16:42 GMT
Creative Performance Director She would be the one working with the voice actors. Probably no Josephine/Zevran. I agree. Because the Creative Performance Director don't know them.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 30, 2024 11:27:15 GMT
Also if memory serves Zevran was not on good terms with the Crows? I think we are extremely unlikely to see Zevran. Not only can he be dead in some world states or off in the West with the Hero of Ferelden but, as you say, he is not on good terms with the Crows. If Caterina is as ruthless as they suggest, I think likely she would have sent Lucanis after him long before now. Probably the reason Zevran headed west or in some other way conveniently disappeared. I really don't want to see him. He is happily off chasing a cure with my Warden and I had enough of them splitting them up in the past. Now they are reunited, they should keep it that way.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 30, 2024 11:32:07 GMT
I understand Inigo Montoya has a whole family of Crows from cousin to grandma we'll probably have to deal with. Yes, plenty of those pesky Crows. They've never faired well with my heroes in the past. My first Rook is based off one of my own characters from my fan fiction and he has had a previous run in with Crows that didn't end well for them. I'm really hoping there is going to be an option in dialogue for Lucanis to ask if they have had any encounters with Crows in the past and to reply "Yes", after which you just leave it hanging in the air the fact that you are still alive so......
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Post by gervaise21 on Jul 30, 2024 11:35:30 GMT
Like, I'm scared they put Fenris in the game, as that could result in him dying or saying that he left my Hawke. So if he doesn't show up I'm good lol. I really don't want to see Fenris in the game because that means they are going with the version of him in the comic series, which I would rather ignore. I've already accommodated their stupid "sent him away for his own safety" in DAI and had them reunite when Hawke returned to Kirkwall, where I assume Hawke is now working their backside off to cover for the absence Viscount Varric. Fenris is supporting her, so leave him be.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 30, 2024 11:38:37 GMT
Creative Performance Director She would be the one working with the voice actors. Probably no Josephine/Zevran. I agree. Because the Creative Performance Director don't know them. DAVe have ~700 voiced characters, the game is guaranteed to have assistant performance directors to split the work. She didn't deal with all the characters herself. On an amusing notes, Ashley Barlow first credit at BioWare are "additional voices" in DA Awakening. But haven't worked on a BioWare game as a dev until Anthem.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 30, 2024 11:58:48 GMT
A month or so ago, someone who’d played the game (can’t for the life of me remember who/where, but either here or BW’s official Discord), said something like “some things are better left for the future”, when asked about Hawke/Stroud or whoever was left in the Fade - and that the Devs are focused on the main game rn. Anyone else thinking, Fade rescue mission DLC, possibly? 🧐 I suspect that they won't be doing DLCs for this game, but I hope I'm wrongI'm also hoping that we get something about the "who was left in the Fade" deal in a future game or whatever... even though I always leave Stroud, for those that left Hawke it would be even more important. I like that we get a different protagonist in each game, but I'm really not a fan of this idea of allowing to create a character that becomes a legend/strongest person in Thedas in a game, to simply make (offscreen) this protagonist not important anymore in the next games. that said, it would be really weird if we don't get any content about the character that left the Fade and went to Weisshaupt, since we're going there. I'm guessing this character is getting the "sent a letter" treatment Yeah I don' tthink we'll getan yDLC's this time either. I thin kthe gam ewould have to really sell well for them to consider it and wi hthe VA strike on three's no telling how long we'd have to wait for it if the ychos et odo it. So I don' tthink w eshould be gettin gour hopes up for that Don' tforge tthat Biowaer ha dth eprefect chanceto do an interesting DLC fo rAndromeda with th eQuarian Ark ye tchos et od oa book instead so just because we could ge tone doesn' t necessarily mea nwe will. I suspect what we see at launch with Veilguard is likely all we'll get. They'll have a team ready t ohelp fix bugs and monitor th esituation but that's about it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 30, 2024 12:03:43 GMT
I can't believe that they're going to abandon that plotline, ESPECIALLY when the potential victim is your character. I hope we do find out what happened to Hawke or whoever you left behind in the fade in the future. the plot line has been resolved unless Bioware decides to reopen it. The consequences of the choice were clear. Agreed I think it's safe to assume whoevre stayed behind dies in the end. Imea neven th eInquisito rsasumes tha ta ttheend of that quest that they're goin gt odie
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Jul 30, 2024 12:07:11 GMT
Like, I'm scared they put Fenris in the game, as that could result in him dying or saying that he left my Hawke. So if he doesn't show up I'm good lol. I really don't want to see Fenris in the game because that means they are going with the version of him in the comic series, which I would rather ignore. I've already accommodated their stupid "sent him away for his own safety" in DAI and had them reunite when Hawke returned to Kirkwall, where I assume Hawke is now working their backside off to cover for the absence Viscount Varric. Fenris is supporting her, so leave him be. I'm still pretending the comics are an alternate universe where Fenris never romanced Hawke, or even had a particularly good relationship with them, and you can't convince me otherwise.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 30, 2024 12:11:09 GMT
I don't know it is canon that the group splits up, I can see Fenris being a bit bitter.
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Post by ClarkKent on Jul 30, 2024 13:51:12 GMT
Sooo...can somebody explain to me what the devs are doing? I watched the video for Romance, Banish, Befriend and it was mostly about old DA characters? It's somewhat bizarre. I wasn't expecting that one bit of gameplay, and the trailer, to be our lot for so long. By comparison, we've seen lots of Ass Creed.
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Post by sloth on Jul 30, 2024 14:03:30 GMT
Probably no Josephine/Zevran. Or if they are here, in a very minor role. I understand Inigo Montoya has a whole family of Crows from cousin to grandma we'll probably have to deal with. Also if memory serves Zevran was not on good terms with the Crows? I think that Zevran not being on good terms with the Crows would make his appearance even more interesting but yeah, don't think that's happening too..
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 30, 2024 14:06:55 GMT
Sooo...can somebody explain to me what the devs are doing? I watched the video for Romance, Banish, Befriend and it was mostly about old DA characters? It's somewhat bizarre. I wasn't expecting that one bit of gameplay, and the trailer, to be our lot for so long. By comparison, we've seen lots of Ass Creed. I suspec tew'll ge tanother traile rin anoth recoupl eo fweeks o rso s the ystil l need t ogiv eus a release date. Also they'll likel ywantt oshow off othe relements of the game too such as how mage and warrior gameplay work and give us a look a tthe CC as well.
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