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Post by smilesja on Aug 18, 2024 0:00:26 GMT
renni @magesdellamortewhoever hurt her count your days They did warn you that whoever went with Rook would be placed 'into greater danger'. 1. Perhaps an early game reminder of consequences. 2. It's your fault. I know which choice I’m taking! Harding don’t worry! Your beautiful will be unblemished!
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Post by themikefest on Aug 18, 2024 0:04:14 GMT
They did warn you that whoever went with Rook would be placed 'into greater danger'. 1. Perhaps an early game reminder of consequences. 2. It's your fault. I know which choice I’m taking! Harding don’t worry! Your beautiful will be unblemished! Don't worry Harding, your death won't be in vain. You will be remembered in the new empire
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 18, 2024 0:18:08 GMT
It looks like The Art of Dragon Age: The Veilguard (Deluxe Edition) is back up on AmazonI know it's sold out in a lot of places right now.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 18, 2024 0:33:56 GMT
They did warn you that whoever went with Rook would be placed 'into greater danger'. 1. Perhaps an early game reminder of consequences. 2. It's your fault. I know which choice I’m taking! Harding don’t worry! Your beautiful will be unblemished! Fo rm eit'l l likel ychange playthroug hon playthroughdepending on wh oI am seeing a sm yfirs tcharactre is a mag eHarding will be the one that accompanies me. Bu tif I'm a rogu eo rwarrio rI'l llikely take Neve
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 18, 2024 0:54:48 GMT
I know which choice I’m taking! Harding don’t worry! Your beautiful will be unblemished! Don't worry Harding, your death won't be in vain. You will be remembered in the new empire
LMAO !!!
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Post by colfoley on Aug 18, 2024 1:22:45 GMT
Yeah don't think we'll get a character death that early. But I suspect Harding is better able to handle danger than Neve at that point.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Aug 18, 2024 1:40:33 GMT
It looks like The Art of Dragon Age: The Veilguard (Deluxe Edition) is back up on AmazonI know it's sold out in a lot of places right now. Ugh, it's not on the Australian Amazon store, which means that it's $179 AUD. Tha'ts twice as much as the actual game!
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Post by trengilly on Aug 18, 2024 2:53:45 GMT
Its interesting that Claudia Black was contacted to reprise Morrigan so late into the process. That she didn't even think she was going to be in the game.
You would assume that they would want to lock up returning voice actors early in the process.
Was Morrigan a late addition to the story?
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 18, 2024 6:22:20 GMT
Its interesting that Claudia Black was contacted to reprise Morrigan so late into the process. That she didn't even think she was going to be in the game. You would assume that they would want to lock up returning voice actors early in the process. Was Morrigan a late addition to the story? Didn't she say she wasn't contacted by BW in 2022? That's 2 years. And, to my knowledge, VA record their lines late in game development process.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 18, 2024 6:28:17 GMT
Was Morrigan a late addition to the story? Possibly but it is equally possible that she wasn't in it when they were planning on multi-player but once they got the green light to revert to the ORIGINAL single player plot, they brought her back in. So, she wasn't an after thought but they hadn't had her part of the original roster they were recording back in 2020. Something like that anyway. What does it matter? Morrigan is back and that's cause to celebrate!
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 18, 2024 6:34:09 GMT
And, to my knowledge, VA record their lines late in game development process. Some of them were already recording lines in 2020 because Davrin and Bellara were featured in the Behind the Scenes Video. Also Gareth voicing Solas. They also needed the main characters to come in for motion capture so had to start early. As I've highlighted above, Morrigan might have been left out if they had stuck with multi-player but was always there in the script for single player. May be they weren't sure if they would have the time to restore her but then the game was put back another year. Her motion capture could probably have been done by a stand in, so they were able to leave it late on before adding her voice.
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Post by Gileadan on Aug 18, 2024 7:17:56 GMT
renni @magesdellamortewhoever hurt her count your days They did warn you that whoever went with Rook would be placed 'into greater danger'. 1. Perhaps an early game reminder of consequences. 2. It's your fault. It's still a decision where I can't guess the consequences. Whoever you pick follows into great danger. Follows you. Meaning you're not asking anything of them you're not willing to do yourself. You are the first into the fray, they're behind you. Meanwhile, the other stays behind to fight off some demons on their own. If they were to get into trouble, you wouldn't be there to assist. When you ask Neve or Harding to do something dangerous by your side, are you expressing confidence that they will be doing a good job or that they are expendable? The person you leave with the demons, are you trying to keep them safe or do you think they are less capable/expendable because you leave them behind? I'm honestly a bit baffled but actually I would go with the version that you express confidence in the person you choose to join you. The one that stays behind is a bit like the kid that gets picked last at sports. And still it could be completely the other way around and the one you pick to follow you gets hurt and it's your fault (because they're NPCs and can't refuse or disagree).
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 18, 2024 9:11:06 GMT
Its interesting that Claudia Black was contacted to reprise Morrigan so late into the process. That she didn't even think she was going to be in the game. You would assume that they would want to lock up returning voice actors early in the process. Was Morrigan a late addition to the story? I think so. They change 2020 from live service to single player. VA starts 2019. They said the main story was fixed since 2015 they said. So my guess they said they will get the choices and consequences better with her and the Inquisitor. It would be interessting to know when they ask the VA of the Inquisitor.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 18, 2024 9:12:24 GMT
I'm honestly a bit baffled but actually I would go with the version that you express confidence in the person you choose to join you. The one that stays behind is a bit like the kid that gets picked last at sports. And still it could be completely the other way around and the one you pick to follow you gets hurt and it's your fault (because they're NPCs and can't refuse or disagree). I found the whole thing baffling too. If you choose Harding she "greatly approves", so it sounds as if she wanted to go with you. Similarly I would assume if you pick Neve she also "greatly approves". No indication that the person left behind disapproves, although I must admit I would have thought they were being left to fend for themselves and would be in greater danger as a result, whereas the person you choose at least has someone else watching out for them. Personally, since I am going to play first run as a mage, I would go with Harding to accompany me and leave Neve behind on the basis that she already showed she could protect herself back in Minrathous and probably better than just Harding with her bow, plus I would be providing any magical power needed, so Harding and her ranged skill would complement my own nicely. I am also a little wary now of the flashed up warning about possible consequences of my action when asked to choose between two options, then finding it wasn't nearly as dire as they said. People are assuming Harding gets her injured face in that sequence. May be she doesn't and it relates to something else entirely.
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Post by fairdragon on Aug 18, 2024 9:19:00 GMT
John Epler is Aging Dragons @eplerjc.bsky.socialme going through the skill tree in every one of my DATV playthroughs Snip - High Level Combat next week.
But can we select skills from another branch of the tree as well?
I am not sure what you mean? You can move free around in your tree. I am only not sure when and how we get the specialisation.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 18, 2024 11:22:54 GMT
Yeah don't think we'll get a character death that early. But I suspect Harding is better able to handle danger than Neve at that point.
Perhaps so. However, a scout is no tank. She's pretty useless in serious fighting until she get her magic... even then, that latest scene where she freezes the Hurlocks is a cinematic. Also, it may only work for small fry. To date, her combat contributions (from trailers) is pitiful.
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Post by Felya87 on Aug 18, 2024 11:31:38 GMT
It looks like The Art of Dragon Age: The Veilguard (Deluxe Edition) is back up on AmazonI know it's sold out in a lot of places right now. ... It just appeared (yesterday wasn't there, I looked up) on Amazon. It and is already sold out 🥺 not even the time to see the price
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 18, 2024 11:32:59 GMT
But can we select skills from another branch of the tree as well?
I am not sure what you mean? You can move free around in your tree. I am only not sure when and how we get the specialisation. Yeah thre's likel ya po8in tin the stor ywher specializations unlock like the yd oin DAI whic his on th eway t oSkyhold after gettin gkicked out of Haven by Corypheus when the mini rift ability unlocks bu tyeah you should be able to freel ymov around the tree s olong as you choose an adjoining branch as that's how it looks like it works tbh. Mayb ethey'll explain tha twit hthe high leve lRook. I fwe'er only allowed 1 as i tlooks like then there's lkel ya stor ypoin t where i tunlocks like in DAi I know in Origins an d2 you can pick specializations at level 7 and 14. I haven' tunlocked min eon the warden I'm playin gye tbut I know I' mgoing Spirit Healer and Arcane Warrior on this DAO playthrough. I'm plannin gon goin gArtificer when I eventuall ywork my way around to my Inquisitor on this run.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 18, 2024 11:39:30 GMT
They did warn you that whoever went with Rook would be placed 'into greater danger'. 1. Perhaps an early game reminder of consequences. 2. It's your fault. It's still a decision where I can't guess the consequences. Whoever you pick follows into great danger. Follows you. Meaning you're not asking anything of them you're not willing to do yourself. You are the first into the fray, they're behind you. Meanwhile, the other stays behind to fight off some demons on their own. If they were to get into trouble, you wouldn't be there to assist. When you ask Neve or Harding to do something dangerous by your side, are you expressing confidence that they will be doing a good job or that they are expendable? The person you leave with the demons, are you trying to keep them safe or do you think they are less capable/expendable because you leave them behind? I'm honestly a bit baffled but actually I would go with the version that you express confidence in the person you choose to join you. The one that stays behind is a bit like the kid that gets picked last at sports. And still it could be completely the other way around and the one you pick to follow you gets hurt and it's your fault (because they're NPCs and can't refuse or disagree).
Gameplay footage show companions to be relative ineffective in battle. Their damage numbers is very low but their saving grace is their high ability in gymnastic acrobatics. Also companion usefulness is that Rook can use them for combo attacks... not the other way around.
This may change at "higher" level but I give it a low probability. Bio wants Rook to be the centre piece in combat. Still, I'm curious to see what magic damage both Neve and Lace can do once the game opens up.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 18, 2024 11:42:43 GMT
I'm honestly a bit baffled but actually I would go with the version that you express confidence in the person you choose to join you. The one that stays behind is a bit like the kid that gets picked last at sports. And still it could be completely the other way around and the one you pick to follow you gets hurt and it's your fault (because they're NPCs and can't refuse or disagree). I found the whole thing baffling too. If you choose Harding she "greatly approves", so it sounds as if she wanted to go with you. Similarly I would assume if you pick Neve she also "greatly approves". No indication that the person left behind disapproves, although I must admit I would have thought they were being left to fend for themselves and would be in greater danger as a result, whereas the person you choose at least has someone else watching out for them. Personally, since I am going to play first run as a mage, I would go with Harding to accompany me and leave Neve behind on the basis that she already showed she could protect herself back in Minrathous and probably better than just Harding with her bow, plus I would be providing any magical power needed, so Harding and her ranged skill would complement my own nicely. I am also a little wary now of the flashed up warning about possible consequences of my action when asked to choose between two options, then finding it wasn't nearly as dire as they said. People are assuming Harding gets her injured face in that sequence. May be she doesn't and it relates to something else entirely.
Probably how the Relationship levels increases.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 18, 2024 11:45:24 GMT
Yeah don't think we'll get a character death that early. But I suspect Harding is better able to handle danger than Neve at that point.
Perhaps so. However, a scout is no tank. She's pretty useless in serious fighting until she get her magic... even then, that latest scene where she freezes the Hurlocks is a cinematic. Also, it may only work for small fry. To date, her combat contributions (from trailers) is pitiful.
Maybe but I doubt the Inquisition would let herleqad their scou ttroops in DAI if the yfelt she was incompetent. Harding knwe the risks she was taking and was prepared t oface any consequences. Granted sh wa slikel yscared when sh epetrified the darkspawn but I thin kmos tpeopl ewoul db eafter discovering al of a sudden they had magical abilities.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 18, 2024 11:50:49 GMT
It's still a decision where I can't guess the consequences. Whoever you pick follows into great danger. Follows you. Meaning you're not asking anything of them you're not willing to do yourself. You are the first into the fray, they're behind you. Meanwhile, the other stays behind to fight off some demons on their own. If they were to get into trouble, you wouldn't be there to assist. When you ask Neve or Harding to do something dangerous by your side, are you expressing confidence that they will be doing a good job or that they are expendable? The person you leave with the demons, are you trying to keep them safe or do you think they are less capable/expendable because you leave them behind? I'm honestly a bit baffled but actually I would go with the version that you express confidence in the person you choose to join you. The one that stays behind is a bit like the kid that gets picked last at sports. And still it could be completely the other way around and the one you pick to follow you gets hurt and it's your fault (because they're NPCs and can't refuse or disagree).
Gameplay footage show companions to be relative ineffective in battle. Their damage numbers is very low but their saving grace is their high ability in gymnastic acrobatics. Also companion usefulness is that Rook can use them for combo attacks... not the other way around.
This may change at "higher" level but I give it a low probability. Bio wants Rook to be the centre piece in combat. Still, I'm curious to see what magic damage both Neve and Lace can do once the game opens up.
The gamepla yw esaw was from th efirs thou rof th egam eno one is particularl ypowerful then even Rook As yo uupgrade and ge tbette rgea rboth fo ryoursel fan dth ecompanions they likely become more effective.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 18, 2024 12:45:52 GMT
Probably how the Relationship levels increases. Yes and that is what worries me. When it comes to who goes with me, I don't automatically base it on who I like best/want to impress but role playing the logical choice. Now it is likely going to be the case that it doesn't matter who we choose, apart from raising their approval level so, as I've found previously in their games, trying to role play usually ends up backfiring on me. That's why I enjoyed ME2 because I was able to role play my Shepard so they weren't just making decisions on the basis of their loins. It was actually why I held off romancing anyone fully (slept with them) until we completed the mission because my guy was still feeling guilty over saving Ashley over Kaidan purely because she was his girlfriend, so he wanted to be able to make the right tactical choices when it mattered. As a result, I chose whoever I thought was best for the task, including who should accompany me, regardless of my personal feelings and it worked out great. I'm hoping that they are going for something similar, at least later on in the game, and that is what they meant about using everyone rather than sticking to favourites, not simply that they want to ensure all their precious characters get enough exposure. So, I assume they will require Emmrich to be one of your companions in the Grand Necropolis but that makes sense because he knows the place and how it works. If later on we are given a quest at another location where it is reported they have an undead problem, I would probably use him there too, even if they don't make me. It would be satisfying, though, if the quest is easier or works out better in some way for having him along.
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https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.hVm-5wNStlyTEXjhwDoa_wHaEK%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=8f745a5f30b08f8231ddb64664df7375d23cc10878aa50d66fec54e9d570c7e2&ipo=images
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 18, 2024 12:56:11 GMT
Found this website explaining skill trees, builds and combat analysis.
Seems overly complex. For example: Rogue’s combat involves landing multiple light or heavy attacks to fill their momentum meter and unloading a powerful attack. My take is that we need to pay attention to the HUD. It's Real-Time Action combat folks and timing is important. Combat timing is crap, as I'm very poor at this sort of thing.
From the description about combat ".... players must constantly enter Tactical Mode during new enemy encounters or challenging fights to discover tips for destroying enemies.....". You know, I find BG3's combat much simpler, yet satisfying.
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