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Post by midnight tea on Oct 26, 2024 16:51:22 GMT
If his infos are right review copies where very limited. So we might not see as many videos as we thought.
Yes, very bad look for Bioware. Wolfheart’s was my favorite review from the preview event, but I guess they only want people who will give glowing reviews no matter what, which doesn’t help me. Since we know for a fact that there were reviewers who were critical and got the code (like Dantics) and that there were reviewers and youtubers who were very positive and didn't get the code, then it's a bad look specifically for people who go around spreading rumors that the reason they didn't get the review code is because there were critical of the game/company. Like I'm sorry, but this is childish.
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Post by OrbitalWings on Oct 26, 2024 16:58:20 GMT
Definitely agree people are trying to find some sort of correlation where there is none.
"BioWare isn't giving codes to people who were critical" is such an easy and believable narrative it's no wonder people are seizing upon it, but as others have already pointed out, plenty of people who were positive didn't get codes, and some who were critical did get codes.
It really does just feel like childish saltiness from those who assumed they'd get one and didn't.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 26, 2024 17:02:15 GMT
With a bit of luck, Shepard will get C-Sec to accept these arrivals...
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Post by Andrew Waples on Oct 26, 2024 17:06:36 GMT
With a bit of luck, Shepard will get C-Sec to accept these arrivals... If Shepard were in the Dragon Age franchise.
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 26, 2024 17:11:27 GMT
If Shepard were in the Dragon Age franchise. Historical artefacts?
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Post by biggydx on Oct 26, 2024 17:18:47 GMT
If his infos are right review copies where very limited. So we might not see as many videos as we thought.
Luke had a very glowing video about them too, as did IAmBrandon and Brandon loved it too, there's seemingly a conspiracy being spread that "only negative videos didn't get a code". What I don't get is that, in a time when a lot of online talk contains complaints about "access journalism," why aren't Review Codes (which is essentially you getting the game for free) not lumped into that same pool? I would think the argument would be that NOT getting a review code, and having to buy the game yourself, makes you more critical of the game because your mindset is subtly tweaked to make sure the game was worth your money. Do we even know if BioWare controls the review codes for their games (serious question)? Since this would technically fall under marketing, it might be that EA is involved.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 26, 2024 17:20:15 GMT
What did the guy say? Four review codes per country? Italy, France, Germany Britain Spain, Japan, China, South Korean, Taiwan + South America to say a few. Each country has their own IGN type game review sites. Given the fact that EA/Bio has done this quite a few times before, chances are good that the two know what their doing.
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 26, 2024 17:23:22 GMT
I succumbed to an impulse and pre-ordered.... Argh !!! What have I done?
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Post by Reznore on Oct 26, 2024 17:26:43 GMT
I succumbed to an impulse and pre-ordered.... Argh !!! What have I done? Yay! Bitch and buy, that's how we do it!
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Post by azarhal on Oct 26, 2024 17:32:36 GMT
Do we even know if BioWare controls the review codes for their games (serious question)? Since this would technically fall under marketing, it might be that EA is involved. It's the publisher who handles the review codes, and people usually have to make a request with verifiable credentials (work for a legit gaming websites or show their influencer's status) to get one. They don't send them randomly. And they might have other criterias (videos not used for other product placement, amount of followers, etc). They also sometimes limit how many they send (priorizing official publications) or don't send them at the same time to reviewers and streamers.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Oct 26, 2024 17:34:46 GMT
I succumbed to an impulse and pre-ordered.... Argh !!! What have I done?
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 26, 2024 17:37:41 GMT
Dragon Age @dragonageExplore the glistening waters of Rivain when #DragonAge: The Veilguard launches in FIVE DAYS! Pre-order here: x.ea.com/datv/pre-order
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Post by The Elder King on Oct 26, 2024 17:40:04 GMT
What did the guy say? Four review codes per country? Italy, France, Germany Britain Spain, Japan, China, South Korean, Taiwan + South America to say a few. Each country has their own IGN type game review sites. Given the fact that EA/Bio has done this quite a few times before, chances are good that the two know what their doing. I don't see how that's possible, considering the multitude of people online that mentioned having the codes. Shibobi also mentioned that there are 'hundreds' of them being sent.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 26, 2024 17:49:22 GMT
With a bit of luck, Shepard will get C-Sec to accept these arrivals... With a bit of luck, those same arrivals will be in line in a few years to play as Shepard in ME4.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Oct 26, 2024 18:01:22 GMT
I succumbed to an impulse and pre-ordered.... Argh !!! What have I done? Yes... yeeessss, come to the dark side...
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 26, 2024 18:03:49 GMT
Do we even know if BioWare controls the review codes for their games (serious question)? Since this would technically fall under marketing, it might be that EA is involved. I'm pretty sure BioWare, as a division of EA, does not have its own marketing team. The separation between EA and BioWare is often over-stated. It's all EA. It's one company that has a 'BioWare development team'. We know 'hundreds' of review codes have gone out [Shinobi] but the game is being sold internationally. There are hundreds of international media outlets that review games and they will be the priority. Members of the 'council' who helped BioWare are getting courtesy copies too (Eddie, Caitie, etc) Beyond that, marketing are throwing some codes to large YouTubers. It's a choice not an obligation. I've seen codes go to YT's with 80,000 subs to 250,000 subs and larger. I saw one grumbling that has 6k, that's a 'no' buddy... I can also see EA marketing skipping outliers. If a reviewer has already grumbled about aspects of the game that EA might consider unfair, or has given a reasonable preview but has separately given EA a right kicking, or even has disregarded NDA rules (which some did) then EA might simply de-risk by skipping a code. Skipping codes carries it's own risk, (grumbles on social media), but perhaps they prefer that to the risk of outliers giving a trash score that can mathematically dent a good score? They are clearly feeling confident; They want to bring it home.
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 26, 2024 18:08:14 GMT
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Post by fistoffiori on Oct 26, 2024 18:13:49 GMT
Yes, very bad look for Bioware. Wolfheart’s was my favorite review from the preview event, but I guess they only want people who will give glowing reviews no matter what, which doesn’t help me. Since we know for a fact that there were reviewers who were critical and got the code (like Dantics) and that there were reviewers and youtubers who were very positive and didn't get the code, then it's a bad look specifically for people who go around spreading rumors that the reason they didn't get the review code is because there were critical of the game/company. Like I'm sorry, but this is childish. I actually have a Youtube membership (low tier) on his channel as I liked it and his BG3 coverage, if he doubles down and carries on with this claim I'll stop being a member!
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 26, 2024 18:17:42 GMT
I succumbed to an impulse and pre-ordered.... Argh !!! What have I done? I don't believe you hacker! Who has taken Sartoz hostage? He's BSN family and we want him back!
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Post by themikefest on Oct 26, 2024 18:21:03 GMT
I succumbed to an impulse and pre-ordered.... Argh !!! What have I done? What you have done is given a reason for posters to give you a like. I already preordered the game. I got the standard edition because it isn't worth $20 to get the added bonuses. I might have if they were $10
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Post by azarhal on Oct 26, 2024 18:27:28 GMT
I succumbed to an impulse and pre-ordered.... Argh !!! What have I done? What you have done is given a reason for posters to give you a like. I already preordered the game. I got the standard edition because it isn't worth $20 to get the added bonuses. I might have if they were $10 I got the standard too, the cosmetics in the deluxe just aren't to my liking.
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Post by fistoffiori on Oct 26, 2024 18:43:13 GMT
What you have done is given a reason for posters to give you a like. I already preordered the game. I got the standard edition because it isn't worth $20 to get the added bonuses. I might have if they were $10 I got the standard too, the cosmetics in the deluxe just aren't to my liking. Same, I pre-ordered today as I got paid yesterday. The stuff in the deluxe edition does look fairly nice but not 'spend another £20 for cosmetics' nice. I do get the Blood Dragon armour though (as does every pre-order) and even though I don't love it, it feels right that we have Blood Dragon again. The best version of it for me isn't even in a Dragon Age game, but in Mass Effect haha.
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Post by jennica on Oct 26, 2024 18:48:17 GMT
yeah, the Deluxe Edition is surprisingly underwhelming. But I rarely buy non-standart editions simply because of cosmetics anyway, they need to be really great for me to do it.
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Post by colfoley on Oct 26, 2024 18:54:51 GMT
Definitely agree people are trying to find some sort of correlation where there is none. "BioWare isn't giving codes to people who were critical" is such an easy and believable narrative it's no wonder people are seizing upon it, but as others have already pointed out, plenty of people who were positive didn't get codes, and some where were critical did get codes. It really does just feel like childish saltiness from those who assumed they'd get one and didn't. I mean somehow the arguments against this game just keep getting worse and more base.
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