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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Aug 26, 2024 20:08:46 GMT
Naw, I think it's Neve. In that one shot in the Release Trailer when she is in her casual clothes: its subtle if true, but it looks like she has an Adam's apple. That, and her jawline is a bit masculine. Neve has female pronouns, and women also have adam's apples. They're more prominent on some women than others, but that's no more reason to suspect anyone is a man than them being tall etc Yup, I should have phrased that better.
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Post by The Elder King on Aug 26, 2024 20:09:56 GMT
I wonder if this means Taash is closer to what the Qunari race was intended to be, hinted at in previous comics and Cory. Hmm, what did Sandal say? "Everyone will be as they were," when the magic comes back. Perhaps we didn't need the Veil to drop for this to happen, just Solas' ritual to go wrong and the gods to return. May be they are sending out magical vibes and our companions and Rook are the beneficiaries. Or may be it has something to do with Rook's connection to the Fade rubbing off on them? Solas: I expect you have questions. Rook: Yes, why does everyone suddenly have magical abilities? We've a dwarf who can do earth magic, a human rogue with purple wings and a qunari warrior that breathes fire. It's kinda wild out here! Lucanis and Taash's abilities don't seem to be tied to the failed ritual, though. Harding's bio is the only one that mentions her abilities being new.
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Post by Sandetiger on Aug 26, 2024 20:11:39 GMT
Naw, I think it's Neve. In that one shot in the Release Trailer when she is in her casual clothes: its subtle if true, but it looks like she has an Adam's apple. That, and her jawline is a bit masculine. Neve has female pronouns, and women also have adam's apples. They're more prominent on some women than others, but that's no more reason to suspect anyone is a man than them being tall etc but also like. this is such an out of pocket comment to make based on literally nothing oml there's nothing to suggest that Neve is cis or trans or gnc right now dkfhasjghsg They did confirm she/her pronouns for Taash -- but honestly she/they or he/they is still on the table for, like, any of them depending on where they go with the story.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 26, 2024 20:12:05 GMT
and in DAI was the exact opposite, as we got only Barrier and Guard but didn't get any healing spells we had at least two healing spells, Vivienne ultimate and the revival spell in the spirit tree. Both of which pretty lore friendly. Plus a lot of other ways to heal. Also revival was from the spirit school, whilst in DAO and DA2 we had actual Spirit Healers, so it is consistent with the lore that Emmrich can heal since he works with spirits and is a benign necromancer likely to attract the right kind of spirits.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 26, 2024 20:19:58 GMT
we had at least two healing spells, Vivienne ultimate and the revival spell in the spirit tree. Both of which pretty lore friendly. Plus a lot of other ways to heal. Also revival was from the spirit school, whilst in DAO and DA2 we had actual Spirit Healers, so it is consistent with the lore that Emmrich can heal since he works with spirits and is a benign necromancer likely to attract the right kind of spirits. that would've been perfect.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Aug 26, 2024 20:24:11 GMT
Neve has female pronouns, and women also have adam's apples. They're more prominent on some women than others, but that's no more reason to suspect anyone is a man than them being tall etc but also like. this is such an out of pocket comment to make based on literally nothing oml there's nothing to suggest that Neve is cis or trans or gnc right now dkfhasjghsg They did confirm she/her pronouns for Taash -- but honestly she/they or he/they is still on the table for, like, any of them depending on where they go with the story. I was making an observation of Neve purely from an art perspective. If I have offended you or anyone else, I apologize for that.
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Post by The Pluto Lounge on Aug 26, 2024 20:26:50 GMT
Speaking of magic, was it ever explained in the lore how Masterworks in DAI could mimic various skills from all classes?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 26, 2024 20:31:00 GMT
Speaking of magic, was it ever explained in the lore how Masterworks in DAI could mimic various skills from all classes? No tthat I've seen
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Post by QuizzyBunny on Aug 26, 2024 21:07:30 GMT
So uhm, I'm putting this under spoiler tags because, well... In the combat showcase it says that Lucanis has a "demonic aura". Guess we know where he got his weird abilities from lol.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Aug 26, 2024 21:09:47 GMT
So uhm, I'm putting this under spoiler tags because, well... In the combat showcase it says that Lucanis has a "demonic aura". Guess we know where he got his weird abilities from lol. I'd think anyone serious about avoiding spoilers would have buried themselves in a deep dark hole by now. Not saying not to use spoiler tags, but...well.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 26, 2024 21:12:46 GMT
Speaking of magic, was it ever explained in the lore how Masterworks in DAI could mimic various skills from all classes? Because Dagna is basically a genius.
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Post by sageoflife on Aug 26, 2024 21:41:31 GMT
Interesting that the two Warrior companions are the only two without any healing abilities at all. It also makes sense considering the reduced party size. The only way for a player to create a party with no healing abilities at all is to make Rook a Warrior and bring both Davrin and Taash with them whenever possible, and that's something the player will have to actively choose to do.
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 26, 2024 22:09:34 GMT
I don't think there's a connection between the party's magical abilities and the prophecy, though. Unless Lucanis' and Taash's abilities came through the ritual, the only one that seemingly gained such power if Harding, which might be related to the Titans. Given the release date trailer I think the discovery and struggle to adapt to the new situation will be something Harding will bear, and not the others. Lucanis' magical abilities seem to be possibly connected to a demon/spirit, Taash through her qunari blood, and Davrin's through the Joining. All of them will have a house in the literal Fade, which is likely not going to be without an effect. Also - it's quite possible that each companion will be selected only *because* there's already something magical to them. Small correction: it was referred to as the Fade by Game Informer, but Catie clarified it's actually a pocket dimension similar to the Crossroads.
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Post by The Elder King on Aug 26, 2024 22:18:18 GMT
I don't think there's a connection between the party's magical abilities and the prophecy, though. Unless Lucanis' and Taash's abilities came through the ritual, the only one that seemingly gained such power if Harding, which might be related to the Titans. Given the release date trailer I think the discovery and struggle to adapt to the new situation will be something Harding will bear, and not the others. Lucanis' magical abilities seem to be possibly connected to a demon/spirit, Taash through her qunari blood, and Davrin's through the Joining. All of them will have a house in the literal Fade, which is likely not going to be without an effect. Also - it's quite possible that each companion will be selected only *because* there's already something magical to them. If the Lighthouse is going to have some magical effect on the party and tie it with the prophecy, it's not something we can say definitely right now, though. In general, it's possible that once the ritual failed we'll see more people gaining magical abilities, but that's not something we have information about at the moment. The sole person who unlocks magical powers so far is Harding, and we don't know if it's a common case or unique to her. Given that it's Neve and not Solas that seems to indicate the profiles of skilled people Rook can recruit to the cause, I don't really see how it connects with the prophecy. To be clear, I'm not saying that the prophecy couldn't have a role in Veilguard, I just don't think the companions having magical abilities is a connection to it for what we know so far.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 26, 2024 22:38:21 GMT
All of them will have a house in the literal Fade, which is likely not going to be without an effect. Also - it's quite possible that each companion will be selected only *because* there's already something magical to them. If the Lighthouse is going to have some magical effect on the party and tie it with the prophecy, it's not something we can say definitely right now, though. In general, it's possible that once the ritual failed we'll see more people gaining magical abilities, but that's not something we have information about at the moment. The sole person who unlocks magical powers so far is Harding, and we don't know if it's a common case or unique to her. Given that it's Neve and not Solas that seems to indicate the profiles of skilled people Rook can recruit to the cause, I don't really see how it connects with the prophecy. To be clear, I'm not saying that the prophecy couldn't have a role in Veilguard, I just don't think the companions having magical abilities is a connection to it for what we know so far. But why would Neve helping to recruit companions be something that goes against the prophecy? Neither Neve nor Solas act consciously in accordance with it*; it's in fact unlikely either knows anything about it. WE, the audience, know about it. And the forces of fate (or, let's face it: the writers ) - if there's anything to them that is conscious - likely work in their own mysterious ways, like they worked when Inquisitor appeared at the right spot at the right time in the Temple Of Sacred Ashes, without anyone (that we know of) ensuring that they're there when they needed to be. Which is why I mentioned that the companions may be selected based on powers that they've already gained, even through circumstances that appear to be unrelated - something unusual happened to them, and because of that, they may already be (consciously or not) driven to converge where Rook can find them. That's usually how fate works in fiction. * The only person (that we know of) that appears to have worked with some sort of future events foretold in prophecy in mind appears to be Flemeth.
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Post by The Elder King on Aug 26, 2024 22:44:07 GMT
If the Lighthouse is going to have some magical effect on the party and tie it with the prophecy, it's not something we can say definitely right now, though. In general, it's possible that once the ritual failed we'll see more people gaining magical abilities, but that's not something we have information about at the moment. The sole person who unlocks magical powers so far is Harding, and we don't know if it's a common case or unique to her. Given that it's Neve and not Solas that seems to indicate the profiles of skilled people Rook can recruit to the cause, I don't really see how it connects with the prophecy. To be clear, I'm not saying that the prophecy couldn't have a role in Veilguard, I just don't think the companions having magical abilities is a connection to it for what we know so far. But why would Neve helping to recruit companions be something that goes against the prophecy? Neither Neve nor Solas act consciously in accordance with it*; it's in fact unlikely either knows anything about it. WE, the audience, know about it. And the forces of fate (or, let's face it: the writers ) - if there's anything to them that is conscious - likely work in their own mysterious ways, like they worked when Inquisitor appeared at the right spot at the right time in the Temple Of Sacred Ashes, without anyone (that we know of) ensuring that they're there when they needed to be. Which is why I mentioned that the companions may be selected based on powers that they've already gained, even through circumstances that appear to be unrelated - something unusual happened to them, and because of that, they may already be (consciously or not) driven to converge where Rook can find them. That's usually how fate works in fiction. * The only person (that we know of) that appears to have worked with some sort of future events foretold in prophecy appears to be Flemeth. I understand what you mean, and I can see why fate could bring together people that for different reasons all had magical abilities. I just don't see how the party being composed by people with magical powers is a necessary step for the prophecy to be fulfilled. But I guess it's a metter of subjectivity.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Aug 26, 2024 22:46:19 GMT
Man, these next two months are gonna feel longer than the last 10 years combined.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Aug 26, 2024 22:55:29 GMT
"Everyone's got magical abilities" - not sure I love that. I like a mix of people and the premise of ordinary folks doing extraordinary things. If everyone's a mage, therefore magic is ordinary... 🤔 Or is it?
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Post by The Elder King on Aug 26, 2024 22:58:54 GMT
"Everyone's got magical abilities" - not sure I love that. I like a mix of people and the premise of ordinary folks doing extraordinary things. If everyone's a mage, therefore magic is ordinary... 🤔 Or is it? Davrin and Taash are still not mages, though. What Taash can do is not really comparable to what mages can do. Lucanis and Harding are different situations, but also unique circumstances that we need to know more of.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 26, 2024 23:02:16 GMT
But why would Neve helping to recruit companions be something that goes against the prophecy? Neither Neve nor Solas act consciously in accordance with it*; it's in fact unlikely either knows anything about it. WE, the audience, know about it. And the forces of fate (or, let's face it: the writers ) - if there's anything to them that is conscious - likely work in their own mysterious ways, like they worked when Inquisitor appeared at the right spot at the right time in the Temple Of Sacred Ashes, without anyone (that we know of) ensuring that they're there when they needed to be. Which is why I mentioned that the companions may be selected based on powers that they've already gained, even through circumstances that appear to be unrelated - something unusual happened to them, and because of that, they may already be (consciously or not) driven to converge where Rook can find them. That's usually how fate works in fiction. * The only person (that we know of) that appears to have worked with some sort of future events foretold in prophecy appears to be Flemeth.I understand what you mean, and I can see why fate could bring together people that for different reasons all had magical abilities. I just don't see how the party being composed by people with magical powers is a necessary step for the prophecy to be fulfilled. But I guess it's a metter of subjectivity. I think the reason for it may be wholly pragmatic from in-universe perspective - to deal with a deeply magical crisis, one ultimately might have to have some familiarity with it, even if only to survive. Like... we already know we'll be ears-deep in magic: travelling via Fade, via magical pocket dimensions, dealing with spirits and demons, and remains of the civilization that existed back in time when magic was as present in the world as air - including its god-kings, apparently largely responsible for its demise. And in DA it's established that mastery over magic is like a muscle: it atrophies without use (literally what Solas said in Inquisition + Morrigan mentioned in The Last Court). People with little to no control over their magical gifts oftentimes are a danger to themselves and others. This is also the reason why removing the Veil is potentially so contentious: what happens if magic returns to people, when most people are unfamiliar with how it is to have magic (and in case of the South: where people are often deeply afraid of it)???
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 26, 2024 23:05:37 GMT
I wonder if this means Taash is closer to what the Qunari race was intended to be, hinted at in previous comics and Cory. Also, this confirms that all of our companions have magical abilities. Hmm... Back home now and I was able to find one of the references I was thinking of. "Dragonfire. It might have been their birthright."
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 26, 2024 23:06:57 GMT
"Everyone's got magical abilities" - not sure I love that. I like a mix of people and the premise of ordinary folks doing extraordinary things. If everyone's a mage, therefore magic is ordinary... 🤔 Or is it? But that's how things were in times of Evanuris. Magic was as natural to people as breathing. Yet, there were still people back then who were more extraordinary than others (like Evanuris, who ruled over others apparently because of the powers they possessed). Also - I really do like the premise of magic returning to the world that's not prepared for it, and where magic was always something unusual (and either a blessing or a curse). Which is why I actually hope we're heading there, in one way or another.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Aug 26, 2024 23:20:04 GMT
"Everyone's got magical abilities" - not sure I love that. I like a mix of people and the premise of ordinary folks doing extraordinary things. If everyone's a mage, therefore magic is ordinary... 🤔 Or is it? But that's how things were in times of Evanuris. Magic was as natural to people as breathing. Yet, there were still people back then who were more extraordinary than others (like Evanuris, who ruled over others apparently because of the powers they possessed). Also - I really do like the premise of magic returning to the world that's not prepared to it, and where magic was always something unusual (and either a blessing or a curse). Which is why I actually hope we're heading there, in one way or another. Absolutely, it could be very interesting from a story perspective. I'm just... I guess being a bit of a purist and not (yet) sure I'd love it. It's a little like ME's green ending: if everyone's made to be half-machine, biotic... then what's the point of a diverse party, what's the point of recruiting an expert engineer like Tali or a Geth, a biotic powerhouse like Jack or Samara, if everyone's the same? This changes everything.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 26, 2024 23:27:17 GMT
But that's how things were in times of Evanuris. Magic was as natural to people as breathing. Yet, there were still people back then who were more extraordinary than others (like Evanuris, who ruled over others apparently because of the powers they possessed). Also - I really do like the premise of magic returning to the world that's not prepared to it, and where magic was always something unusual (and either a blessing or a curse). Which is why I actually hope we're heading there, in one way or another. Absolutely, it could be very interesting from a story perspective. I'm just... I guess being a bit of a purist and not (yet) sure I'd love it. It's a little like ME's green ending: if everyone's made to be half-machine, biotic... then what's the point of a diverse party, what's the point of recruiting an expert engineer like Tali or a Geth, a biotic powerhouse like Jack or Samara, if everyone's the same? This changes everything. But why assume everyone's going to be the same? Having magic doesn't means suddenly everyone has access to same skillsets or the same understanding of magic - after all, we've had more than one magic-wielder in our party in every DA: were they all the same? Were all mage specializations the same? The diversity isn't dependent on magic being everywhere, but on magic system woven into the world. And we've already established that people definitely weren't the same during the times of Arlathan, when everyone had magic.
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