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Post by Andrew Waples on Sept 23, 2024 22:09:52 GMT
YouTube is a toxic dumpster fire now with all hate videos. It's like, a minefield. Prolly means I've watched all the good ones and need to rewatch them. My 'favorite' ones are the ones that bitch about it being "woke," like it's been "woke" since 2009.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 23, 2024 22:26:29 GMT
YouTube is a toxic dumpster fire now with all hate videos. It's like, a minefield. Prolly means I've watched all the good ones and need to rewatch them. My 'favorite' ones are the ones that bitch about it being "woke," like it's been "woke" since 2009. David Gaider called them F***ing Tourists a few days ago, we probably should all do the same.
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 23, 2024 22:32:27 GMT
My 'favorite' ones are the ones that bitch about it being "woke," like it's been "woke" since 2009. David Gaider called them F***ing Tourists a few days ago, we probably should all do the same. It makes me laugh every single time I see it. Imagine crying "wah woke" about a Bioware game? In 2024?
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 23, 2024 22:43:58 GMT
Yeah, they say it like it's a bad thing. And as if something is being taken from them. The outrage! Woke abominations and freaks want to erase me! OMG
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 23, 2024 22:46:28 GMT
On to more positive things: this is one sexy @ss staff, with the golden serpent. Can't get a better shot of it, but def in my top 3 so far.
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Post by Sartoz on Sept 23, 2024 22:49:23 GMT
I'm not surprised if Bio assessed the potential "woke" type reaction before making their "inclusivity" decision. The pronouns is probably the sticky point. Regardless, Bio decided to go ahead estimating the blow back insufficient to harm game sales in a meaningful way.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 23, 2024 23:13:18 GMT
Yeah, they say it like it's a bad thing. And as if something is being taken from them. The outrage! Woke abominations and freaks want to erase me! OMG It's not just that they're complaining at things that were part of DA since DAO, but their incessant, blatant lying as well. Just look what's floating around Twitter. Shows how desperate they are for material to complain about.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Sept 23, 2024 23:14:00 GMT
I'm not surprised if Bio assessed the potential "woke" type reaction before making their "inclusivity" decision. The pronouns is probably the sticky point. Regardless, Bio decided to go ahead estimating the blow back insufficient to harm game sales in a meaningful way.
BG3 had the same options (except for the scars) and nobody gave a damn. There's no reason to believe the few whiny morons on Twitter will make an actual impact in the long term.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 23, 2024 23:18:55 GMT
Yeah, they say it like it's a bad thing. And as if something is being taken from them. The outrage! Woke abominations and freaks want to erase me! OMG It's not just that they're complaining at things that were part of DA since DAO, but their incessant, blatant lying as well. Just look what's floating around Twitter. Shows how desperate they are for material to complain about. True. There's a lot of made up stuff, they're grasping at straws.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 23, 2024 23:24:09 GMT
I'm not surprised if Bio assessed the potential "woke" type reaction before making their "inclusivity" decision. The pronouns is probably the sticky point. Regardless, Bio decided to go ahead estimating the blow back insufficient to harm game sales in a meaningful way.
BG3 had the same options (except for the scars) and nobody gave a damn. There's no reason to believe the few whiny morons on Twitter will make an actual impact in the long term. Oh, they gave a damn - it's just that after BG3 became a roaring success they STFU very quickly. If DAVe is popular enough, they'll likely shut up as well, although I suspect they'll make a lot more attempts before they let it go.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 23, 2024 23:27:58 GMT
You're talking about marketing versus shareholder disclosures. They are not the same. People can go to jail for lying in these disclosures. No matter what you, or anyone else might think about DAVe, Bioware or EA generally - this information is true. No-one is going to risk spending time in prison to make DAVe sound like it is selling better than it is. But what is "strong" demand? What are their expectations? Does it really matter at this point? Like really matter. Because we can't really know what those expectations are but I think its safe to say that we can make two logical conclusions from them. 1. Either their expectations, given everything that has happened the last ten years and given that apparently EA never really has believed in DA greatly, are low/ reasonable. Thus them meeting expectations for those low sales expectations is pretty good. 2. The game, given that it has been in production for awhile and thus has high costs, would have high expectations. And BioWare is meeting them anyway. The important thing is BioWare is meeting them.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 23, 2024 23:32:10 GMT
True. There's a lot of made up stuff, they're grasping at straws. They are trying to create some "drama" to tank the game reception. I don't think people should even bother giving them views.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 23, 2024 23:36:45 GMT
True. There's a lot of made up stuff, they're grasping at straws. They are trying to create some "drama" to tank the game reception. I don't think people should even bother giving them views. I personally don’t. I refuse to give crap like that a single view.
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Post by midnight tea on Sept 23, 2024 23:38:38 GMT
True. There's a lot of made up stuff, they're grasping at straws. They are trying to create some "drama" to tank the game reception. I don't think people should even bother giving them views. Yea, it's called "poisoning the well". I've seen preparations for it before the companion trailer dropped, with the usual suspects being like "uh oh, I hope Bioware won't ruin DA!" or "I really, REALLY hope that DA won't be full of THAT crap"...
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 23, 2024 23:39:06 GMT
It all comes down to a dirty game of engagement. Many don’t play DA or care at all. If Veilguard is successful, they’ll shamelessly change their tune, or just drop it and move on to the next thing.
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Post by smilesja on Sept 23, 2024 23:42:28 GMT
BG3 had the same options (except for the scars) and nobody gave a damn. There's no reason to believe the few whiny morons on Twitter will make an actual impact in the long term. Oh, they gave a damn - it's just that after BG3 became a roaring success they STFU very quickly. If DAVe is popular enough, they'll likely shut up as well, although I suspect they'll make a lot more attempts before they let it go. One of them did try to make a mod erasing all the “woke” stuff lol.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Sept 23, 2024 23:52:08 GMT
Here's an example of the kind of culture war outrage slop YT will throw your way just because you've been watching normal DA-related videos: I believe the text says "8 different styles of glitter". I'm already buying it, no need to oversell it! YouTube is a toxic dumpster fire now with all hate videos. It's like, a minefield. Prolly means I've watched all the good ones and need to rewatch them. This place isn't much better. It's nowhere near that bad here, though a part of me doesn't want to believe that a grown adult would write the sentence "I am disappointed by the lack of feminine curves in the CC" non-ironically.
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 24, 2024 0:47:15 GMT
I believe the text says "8 different styles of glitter".
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 24, 2024 0:51:59 GMT
Yeah, they say it like it's a bad thing. Yeah, oh no, you mean they are FOR things like awareness and knowledge? Sort of like how it was somehow supposed to be bad to be pro-social justice? Impossible to take such clownage seriously.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 24, 2024 0:53:21 GMT
Instead of wearing grease paint over his eyes Oliver is going to wear glitter paint.
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Post by q5tyhj on Sept 24, 2024 0:53:27 GMT
Yeah, they say it like it's a bad thing. And as if something is being taken from them. The outrage! Woke abominations and freaks want to erase me! OMG It's not just that they're complaining at things that were part of DA since DAO, but their incessant, blatant lying as well. Just look what's floating around Twitter. Shows how desperate they are for material to complain about. this is so sad lol... like, why?
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Post by smilesja on Sept 24, 2024 0:54:44 GMT
It's not just that they're complaining at things that were part of DA since DAO, but their incessant, blatant lying as well. Just look what's floating around Twitter. Shows how desperate they are for material to complain about. this is so sad lol... like, why? Because the outrage machine needs controversy to stay relevant. If you can’t find any controversy, make some up!
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Post by azarhal on Sept 24, 2024 0:55:11 GMT
Instead of wearing grease paint over his eyes Oliver is going to wear glitter paint. "All that glitter is gold", might be a sign to swap to LoF faction.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 24, 2024 0:58:16 GMT
Very quick dove tail on my previous post now that we have gotten body sliders in the CC I kind of wish that more games would do more situational CC options. Like with makeup and tatoos and what not. Like with the above it would be nice to actually do the whole greese point thing, I have seen character creators and what not do it, but then it would apply all the time. So it would be nice to see like wearing makeup around the Lighthouse but not in the field, or the face paint out in the field but not in the lighthouse. Because identity concealment would be important for Oliver in the early game but he wouldn't just wear it while in the Lighthouse.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Sept 24, 2024 1:07:34 GMT
A public demo of the character creator would go a long way in putting all this nonsense to rest.
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