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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 16, 2024 18:25:18 GMT
Is there any data out on DAVG's financial performance across platforms? Pre-release: the pre-orders were within EA's expectations. Nothing as of yet, besides Steam data. Yea hwhils tit' sstill gettin gsom ehate in som ecircles EAwe re hasppy with numbers prerelease but we'll have to see I think we will see another ME but it's stil too early to say atm. Even i fBiowar ei sterminated I don't think Veilguard is a bad game t oleave on. I do feel thoug htha tregardless of wha tthe haters think Biowaregave i teverything the yhad wit hVeilguard. I'm not finding too man yfaults if an ywit hit. I'm in no doub thte yknwe tha ttheir very existence was on the line with this game and itit certainl yhelped motivate a good gam ein m books.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Nov 16, 2024 18:48:43 GMT
I'm getting "get out of the Hinterlands" flashbacks with Act One. There's no point in doing this now, but I can't help not exploring.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 16, 2024 23:54:42 GMT
Dragon Age subreddit only has "You know what I also hate about this game" posts and the Veilguard subreddit only has "Forgot the haters I like this game" posts like when will things be normal.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 17, 2024 0:01:16 GMT
Dragon Age subreddit only has "You know what I also hate about this game" posts and the Veilguard subreddit only has "Forgot the haters I like this game" posts like when will things be normal. I mean, how long did it take after Dragon Age 2 came out?
(i.e. my guess is 'when the next DA game comes out' judging by how a lot of the DA2 hate simmered down after Inquisition released.)
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Post by smilesja on Nov 17, 2024 3:02:05 GMT
Dragon Age subreddit only has "You know what I also hate about this game" posts and the Veilguard subreddit only has "Forgot the haters I like this game" posts like when will things be normal. I mean, how long did it take after Dragon Age 2 came out?
(i.e. my guess is 'when the next DA game comes out' judging by how a lot of the DA2 hate simmered down after Inquisition released.)
A long time lol, believe me I've went through the abuse.
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Post by SomberXIII on Nov 17, 2024 3:44:07 GMT
Dragon Age subreddit only has "You know what I also hate about this game" posts and the Veilguard subreddit only has "Forgot the haters I like this game" posts like when will things be normal. Reminds me of TLOU2 situation. The main sub got brigaded hard. If BSN were still here today, it'd be the same there.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 17, 2024 3:46:09 GMT
Dragon Age subreddit only has "You know what I also hate about this game" posts and the Veilguard subreddit only has "Forgot the haters I like this game" posts like when will things be normal. Reminds me of TLOU2 situation. The main sub got brigaded hard. If BSN were still here today, it'd be the same there. It feels on the internet that games now and days have to be flawless or they’re complete trash. Veilguard is considered to be a good game but you wouldn’t know that with people trashing it.
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Post by azarhal on Nov 17, 2024 3:51:27 GMT
I mean, how long did it take after Dragon Age 2 came out?
(i.e. my guess is 'when the next DA game comes out' judging by how a lot of the DA2 hate simmered down after Inquisition released.)
A long time lol, believe me I've went through the abuse. I had to leave a forums where I hanged out a few years ago, because the BioWare hate caused by DA2 release never abated there and just increased with every new BioWar news release. I came here full time instead. DA2 is technically my favorite game of the series, well act 1 and 2, I find the 3rd act boring. Origins aged very badly so it was already at the bottom before Veilguard released. That means Veilguard and DAI are fighting for #2 spot and Veilguard is probably winning that. Althought, both are mix-bags, for different gameplay related reasons and maybe similar ones too (like "it's too big!").
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Post by SomberXIII on Nov 17, 2024 4:02:58 GMT
Reminds me of TLOU2 situation. The main sub got brigaded hard. If BSN were still here today, it'd be the same there. It feels on the internet that games now and days have to be flawless or they’re complete trash. Veilguard is considered to be a good game but you wouldn’t know that with people trashing it. This is my gripe with the whole situation. I have my long list of criticisms with the Veilguard but I'm incredibly frustrated with the bullshitry complaints / veiled schadenfreude that the game is a commercial flop (that would end the series and the company) with baseless assumptions that 1) the game had budget like 250 million dollars, 2) needs to sell at least 5 million units, 3) BioWare and EA are very quiet because the game bombed. All these just make me think less of my dissatisfactions with the game and BioWare in general and can't help but root for them. My favorite reactions from them? "Oh you like this game? Your standards must be low. You must rate it 10/10. We should be allowed to be negative about the game" etc. etc..... I'm just tired.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 17, 2024 4:21:46 GMT
It feels on the internet that games now and days have to be flawless or they’re complete trash. Veilguard is considered to be a good game but you wouldn’t know that with people trashing it. This is my gripe with the whole situation. I have my long list of criticisms with the Veilguard but I'm incredibly frustrated with the bullshitry complaints / veiled schadenfreude that the game is a commercial flop (that would end the series and the company) with baseless assumptions that 1) the game had budget like 250 million dollars, 2) needs to sell at least 5 million units, 3) BioWare and EA are very quiet because the game bombed. All these just make me think less of my dissatisfactions with the game and BioWare in general and can't help but root for them. My favorite reactions from them? "Oh you like this game? Your standards must be low. You must rate it 10/10. We should be allowed to be negative about the game" etc. etc..... I'm just tired. it really is too early to know what it's reception is in the general market place. I've seen a lot of positive and negative criticism, but I’ve only seen those with negative opinions assume their opinion is some standard or point to itself to justify dislike for the game.
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Nov 17, 2024 9:37:35 GMT
I'm getting "get out of the Hinterlands" flashbacks with Act One. There's no point in doing this now, but I can't help not exploring. Me too, though I did get one of both Harding and Bellara quests done, while wandering around the labyrinth of Arlathan forest . Jeez I think I'll do some of the Act 1 main quests today to get forward, as beautiful (and horrific) the forest is
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Nov 17, 2024 9:40:26 GMT
I've seen a lot of positive and negative criticism, but I’ve only seen those with negative opinions assume their opinion is some standard or point to itself to justify dislike for the game. This.
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Post by tmjfin on Nov 17, 2024 11:27:24 GMT
Geoff Keighley asked in Twitter (no, I will never call it with that bs "name"), who you wanna see nominated for goty. Of course I answered The Veilguard and someone answered to that "Troll". People are unbelievable 😂 I blocked that person.
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Post by colfoley on Nov 17, 2024 11:37:12 GMT
Geoff Keighley asked in Twitter (no, I will never call it with that bs "name"), who you wanna see nominated for goty. Of course I answered The Veilguard and someone answered to that "Troll". People are unbelievable 😂 I blocked that person. Just feel like I sometimes vacilate with this game. Like I don't pay much attention to criticism and then I have a rougher night with it where I am not enjoying things as much so its like 'oh god have i underestimated how bad this game actually is, will I eat crow?' but then read through some comments, have debates, and then come back out and have a much better night where stuff that was mentioned is directly contradicted and I enjoy it...which brings up its own worries but as I have said in another comment I am starting to think this game is actually very deep and I will definitley rate it highly. And like its weird think this might have been the only new release I have played this year? But man if it isn't hitting most of the right notes.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2024 13:53:19 GMT
A long time lol, believe me I've went through the abuse. I had to leave a forums where I hanged out a few years ago, because the BioWare hate caused by DA2 release never abated there and just increased with every new BioWar news release. I came here full time instead. DA2 is technically my favorite game of the series, well act 1 and 2, I find the 3rd act boring. Origins aged very badly so it was already at the bottom before Veilguard released. That means Veilguard and DAI are fighting for #2 spot and Veilguard is probably winning that. Althought, both are mix-bags, for different gameplay related reasons and maybe similar ones too (like "it's too big!"). Yeah that's i tfo rm etoo Veilguard and Inquisition ae rdefinitel yboth fighting fo rtop spo tan drigh tnow I'm not suer which I like more as they both prett ymuch fee lnec kand neck. I thin kin terms of stor yand charactres DAI is bette rin terms of graphics and gamepla ythe award goes t oDAV but I don' t feel there is muc hbetween them. I don' tsee Veilguard winning GOTY or anything as It's recieved too much hate but it is mine though.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2024 14:14:02 GMT
I mean, how long did it take after Dragon Age 2 came out?
(i.e. my guess is 'when the next DA game comes out' judging by how a lot of the DA2 hate simmered down after Inquisition released.)
A long time lol, believe me I've went through the abuse. Yeah some of us hav yea hsom eof us wen tthrough i ttagain wi hAndromeda it's one of the main erasons why I pa ynoattention t oreviews any moe rI mak eup m yown min dbasedon what I see. Fo rme Veilguard is easil ya 8 or 9 out of 10 game tha tI can see myself playin gmultiple times as with all o fBioware's games. Ica ndefinitel ysee myself rackin gup 30 o r40 playthrouhg's of Veilguard ove rth enex tfwe years wit hhow I' menjoyin gi tatm and that's jus tplayin git on the Xbox whic hisn' tfo rm eth ebes twa yt oplay it. If I'm enjoying i tthre jus timagin ehow it'll fee lonce I get started playin gon m yperfered platform. I've played th efirst leve lon PC bu tthat's as far a sI'v ego tthus far but I plan to switch once I complete my Xbox run right now I'm letting m yPC focus on getting som eof m ylibrar yreinstalled. I have managed t oreinstall Mass Effec tand Dragon Age as I reinstalled Mass Efect yesterday. My plan toda yis t oreinstall on eo r2 of m ySteam games. I'm thinkin gMidnigh tSun sand hte Horizon games t ostar twith as I reall ywantt osee what Zero Dawn and Forbidden Wes tlook and pla ylik eon my nwe system.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2024 14:26:25 GMT
This is my gripe with the whole situation. I have my long list of criticisms with the Veilguard but I'm incredibly frustrated with the bullshitry complaints / veiled schadenfreude that the game is a commercial flop (that would end the series and the company) with baseless assumptions that 1) the game had budget like 250 million dollars, 2) needs to sell at least 5 million units, 3) BioWare and EA are very quiet because the game bombed. All these just make me think less of my dissatisfactions with the game and BioWare in general and can't help but root for them. My favorite reactions from them? "Oh you like this game? Your standards must be low. You must rate it 10/10. We should be allowed to be negative about the game" etc. etc..... I'm just tired. it really is too early to know what it's reception is in the general market place. I've seen a lot of positive and negative criticism, but I’ve only seen those with negative opinions assume their opinion is some standard or point to itself to justify dislike for the game. Yeah I think it' ercieved too much hat eeto earn the GOTY tag next month but I still think ther ae rplent yof peopl ewho like it it's jus tI thin kopinoin on this gam ei stoo divided for it to get a strong enoug hfoothold to ge ttha thonour. Veilguard is in the asm epositio nHogwarts found itself in las tyea rgood enough to earn a few fans bu tno tenoug ht owin GOTY .It's tough but I'd like to thin kwhether i twins o rno tit's done well enough t okeep Bioware alive for now. As hopefull yit now gives them a chanc eto repai rwhateve rdqamag ewas done afte rAndromeda whic hwill be quiet a big headache I think.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 17, 2024 14:45:55 GMT
I need at least GOTY nomination, not for BioWare's sake but to piss off the irrational haters.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2024 14:51:25 GMT
I need at least GOTY nomination, not for BioWare's sake but to piss off the irrational haters. I somehow doub twe'll get it though.
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Nov 17, 2024 14:55:24 GMT
Reminds me of TLOU2 situation. The main sub got brigaded hard. If BSN were still here today, it'd be the same there. It feels on the internet that games now and days have to be flawless or they’re complete trash. Veilguard is considered to be a good game but you wouldn’t know that with people trashing it. No game is flawless though. The point is to judge a game by how much "fun" it has. I've been an ardent defender of the game here but I have my issues with the game. I dislike most of the armor set visuals (thankfully Warden heavies look good). I think the loot chests in timed/critical missions are terrible for pacing/immersion. I believe there could have been more local exposition of cultures. I feel the pacing between companion quests could have been done better. Etc. Etc. But I think it has an interesting plot. I thought the settings were the best in the series. I think combat is the best BioWare has ever done. I love how they more or less credibly tied up most plot threads since DAO. That's incredibly hard to do. I love Alex Jordan's VA for male Rook. Best in the series. Davrin is the hottest male LI since Alistair and Kaidan for me. I can continue to praise it or critique it but overall I walked away having had *fun*. That's what matters. It's why I've been saying that people are just being uncharitable about DAVG, even people who may dislike it overall in good faith. Things that didn't matter in other games or were acceptable in others are apparently groundbreaking issues in DAVG. That's what pisses me off. Not that they dislike it. And the worst part is, even those that like it feel like they have to justify why they like it. That's what happens when something is inundated with bad opinions and terrible takes. It's, ironically, like a blight that corrupts everything about a game. I loathe it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2024 16:32:26 GMT
It feels on the internet that games now and days have to be flawless or they’re complete trash. Veilguard is considered to be a good game but you wouldn’t know that with people trashing it. No game is flawless though. The point is to judge a game by how much "fun" it has. I've been an ardent defender of the game here but I have my issues with the game. I dislike most of the armor set visuals (thankfully Warden heavies look good). I think the loot chests in timed/critical missions are terrible for pacing/immersion. I believe there could have been more local exposition of cultures. I feel the pacing between companion quests could have been done better. Etc. Etc. But I think it has an interesting plot. I thought the settings were the best in the series. I think combat is the best BioWare has ever done. I love how they more or less credibly tied up most plot threads since DAO. That's incredibly hard to do. I love Alex Jordan's VA for male Rook. Best in the series. Davrin is the hottest male LI since Alistair and Kaidan for me. I can continue to praise it or critique it but overall I walked away having had *fun*. That's what matters. It's why I've been saying that people are just being uncharitable about DAVG, even people who may dislike it overall in good faith. Things that didn't matter in other games or were acceptable in others are apparently groundbreaking issues in DAVG. That's what pisses me off. Not that they dislike it. And the worst part is, even those that like it feel like they have to justify why they like it. That's what happens when something is inundated with bad opinions and terrible takes. It's, ironically, like a blight that corrupts everything about a game. I loathe it. Agreed I've had times like tha twher I feel like I'v eha dt ojustif ymysel ffo rliking a game too. It happened plent yof times wit hAndromeda I haven' tfelt the need t odo it smuch with Veilguard bu tit' sstill early days given th egame has onl ybeen out a couple of weks at his point. But I'm enjoyin gi tenough to th poin tI can se eit jioning the othe rDA games a sa comfort game that I end up playin gergularly regardless of wha tothers might think.
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Game crashed once more attempting to switch to another scene after a quest finished. F**K
Combat has the F*****G camera constantly zooming in-out (small increments) during combat or when I'm turning around.... get a freaking headache. Also have a "biotic eye" after my cataract surgery a week ago. Doesn't help my brain in the visual department with one "good" and one "bad" eye. ... I'll live.
Can't help but explore new areas to find loot. No Elf Root found so far.
So, I'm at lvl 13 now with Devrin recruited. Next on the list, apparently, is to find a Dragon Hunter to kill dragons. I can reasonably guess who that is.
One thing I like is that I can name my file saves.... thank you Bio.
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Yep, they are independent. Harding, however, is anything but smart. With her bow she bravely dashes forward to shoot her arrows toe-to-toe with the enemy. Then, smartly comes back to me revealing my position to the Big Bad. "Great tactical move" by the dwarf, btw. Next thing I know, the Big Bad activates its rocket booster and I'm nose-to-nose with the big fella. There goes my "keep at range" mantra. I'm horrible at frantic close discourse, which is why I die sometimes..... I blame it on Harding and or the other guy/gal/it.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2024 18:43:38 GMT
So far, I do not get the impression that DAtV should not be nominated for GOTY, but that it should be nominated for RPG of the year (but not win). Yeah hat's why i said Veilguard is kind o fin the same boat Hogwarts found itself in las tyear .Good enoug ht ogarne rbut no tquite enough t owin an end of yea rawards. Personall yI'd love Verilguard t owin as I thin kgiven wha tBiowae rhave been throug hrecently the ydeserv i tas it feels a prett ysolid game to me but I don't think i twill
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Mass Effect Andromeda, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition, Dragon Age The Veilguard
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2024 18:48:48 GMT
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Game crashed once more attempting to switch to another scene after a quest finished. F**K
Combat has the F*****G camera constantly zooming in-out (small increments) during combat or when I'm turning around.... get a freaking headache. Also have a "biotic eye" after my cataract surgery a week ago. Doesn't help my brain in the visual department with one "good" and one "bad" eye. ... I'll live.
Can't help but explore new areas to find loot. No Elf Root found so far.
So, I'm at lvl 13 now with Devrin recruited. Next on the list, apparently, is to find a Dragon Hunter to kill dragons. I can reasonably guess who that is.
One thing I like is that I can name my file saves.... thank you Bio.
Companions
Yep, they are independent. Harding, however, is anything but smart. With her bow she bravely dashes forward to shoot her arrows toe-to-toe with the enemy. Then, smartly comes back to me revealing my position to the Big Bad. "Great tactical move" by the dwarf, btw. Next thing I know, the Big Bad activates its rocket booster and I'm nose-to-nose with the big fella. There goes my "keep at range" mantra. I'm horrible at frantic close discourse, which is why I die sometimes..... I blame it on Harding and or the other guy/gal/it.
I'v often used the power wheel as a means t opaus eand look a twha tI wantt oaim a tI find tha thelps
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