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Post by wickedcool on Nov 23, 2024 16:29:31 GMT
At this point we need to hear from BioWare execs. Come out and say we are happy with the success. At this point we hear from larian people etc. I’d like planned roundtables from the cast. We got some of this in dai with the iron bull actor etc. BioWare really needs to setup the after game stuff
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Post by fairdragon on Nov 23, 2024 16:33:16 GMT
"Sure, I *can* write him... but comedy isn't science. I need to find him funny. If I write him, the only comedy I'll mine is where he makes fun of himself." James took that on board and then passed the character onto someone else. The result? Oghren. I laughed so hard. Thank you Gaider for saying no. Some people shouldn't be creative director.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 23, 2024 16:50:30 GMT
There's SteamDB activity on the next #Veilguard update. Maybe Thursday again next week? 🤔  |
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Post by alanc9 on Nov 23, 2024 19:13:35 GMT
Got a game update... at least that's what the EA App said... took a while to download. Having said that, I'm actively engaged in a side-quest to clear the Crossroads from corruption. Super annoying... It's a 3d chess game-like.... running back-&-forth... very tiresome.
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Post by biggydx on Nov 23, 2024 19:42:52 GMT
There's SteamDB activity on the next #Veilguard update. Maybe Thursday again next week? 🤔 They're iterating pretty quickly.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 23, 2024 19:47:24 GMT
There's SteamDB activity on the next #Veilguard update. Maybe Thursday again next week? 🤔 They're iterating pretty quickly. I think we've been seeing one update a week so far. 
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Post by Dirk on Nov 23, 2024 20:14:53 GMT
There is a survey on Dragon Age Subreddit about Veilguard. There are around 1,800 responses so far. It contains spoilers btw. The results have lots of detail, but I've summarized some: - Demographics: 53% women, 41% men, 6% non-binary
- 51% play as elves. Women and non-binary people prefer playing as elves, while men prefer humans.
- All genders prefer playing as a mage. But the preference is weaker in men.
- Men prefer choosing Grey Warden as faction background, while women and non-binary people prefer Shadow Dragon.
- Emmrich is the most popular and highest rated companion, while Taash is rated lowest. This is true in all three demographics.
- The companion that is considered "Biggest disappointment" is Lucanis. This is true in all three demographics.
- Non-binary people rate the game highest, while men rate the game lowest. The average score is 3.4 out of 5.
- Combats and environments are highly rated, while writing and music have the lowest scores.
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 20:42:13 GMT
There is a survey on Dragon Age Subreddit about Veilguard. There are around 1,800 responses so far. It contains spoilers btw. The results have lots of detail, but I've summarized some: - Demographics: 53% women, 41% men, 6% non-binary
- 51% play as elves. Women and non-binary people prefer playing as elves, while men prefer humans.
- All genders prefer playing as a mage. But the preference is weaker in men.
- Men prefer choosing Grey Warden as faction background, while women and non-binary people prefer Shadow Dragon.
- Emmrich is the most popular and highest rated companion, while Taash is rated lowest. This is true in all three demographics.
- The companion that is considered "Biggest disappointment" is Lucanis. This is true in all three demographics.
- Non-binary people rate the game highest, while men rate the game lowest. The average score is 3.4 out of 5.
- Combats and environments are highly rated, while writing and music have the lowest scores.
3.4 out of 5 is practically the same as BSN's score btw. So all the people here who say "oh BSN is so negative, I'm going to the reddit now because it's so much more positive" ... wooow lies! People across the board are rating it around 66-68% and I fully expect Steam to settle here also 
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 23, 2024 20:52:46 GMT
There is a survey on Dragon Age Subreddit about Veilguard. There are around 1,800 responses so far. It contains spoilers btw. The results have lots of detail, but I've summarized some: - Demographics: 53% women, 41% men, 6% non-binary
- 51% play as elves. Women and non-binary people prefer playing as elves, while men prefer humans.
- All genders prefer playing as a mage. But the preference is weaker in men.
- Men prefer choosing Grey Warden as faction background, while women and non-binary people prefer Shadow Dragon.
- Emmrich is the most popular and highest rated companion, while Taash is rated lowest. This is true in all three demographics.
- The companion that is considered "Biggest disappointment" is Lucanis. This is true in all three demographics.
- Non-binary people rate the game highest, while men rate the game lowest. The average score is 3.4 out of 5.
- Combats and environments are highly rated, while writing and music have the lowest scores.
3.4 out of 5 is practically the same as BSN's score btw. So all the people here who say "oh BSN is so negative, I'm going to the reddit now because it's so much more positive" ... wooow lies! People across the board are rating it around 66-68% and I fully expect Steam to settle here also What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"?
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 21:02:49 GMT
3.4 out of 5 is practically the same as BSN's score btw. So all the people here who say "oh BSN is so negative, I'm going to the reddit now because it's so much more positive" ... wooow lies! People across the board are rating it around 66-68% and I fully expect Steam to settle here also What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"? You can keep arguing that the scores aren't comprehensive all you want, and all day long. But Reddit scores the game at 68%, BSN scores it about the same, and Steam's about to dip out of Mostly Positive and into mixed. Almost every metric on consumer sentiment say the same thing. When the game first released it was "79% positive on Steam, watch it increase as people finish the game". When BSN's poll first came out it was "watch it increase as people finish the game". And they haven't increased. If anything scores have stayed the same and on Steam have steadily crept down. It doesn't take much to notice trends
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Post by githcheater on Nov 23, 2024 21:10:45 GMT
3.4 out of 5 is practically the same as BSN's score btw. So all the people here who say "oh BSN is so negative, I'm going to the reddit now because it's so much more positive" ... wooow lies! People across the board are rating it around 66-68% and I fully expect Steam to settle here also What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"? Apples and oranges ... sales success is not equal to game quality. VG could not even get nominated for RPG of the year.
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Post by githcheater on Nov 23, 2024 21:12:52 GMT
What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"? When the game first released it was "79% positive on Steam, watch it increase as people finish the game". When BSN's poll first came out it was "watch it increase as people finish the game". And they haven't increased. If anything scores have stayed the same and on Steam have steadily crept down. It doesn't take much to notice trends Steam has been hovering around 71% positive for several days now (perhaps 1 week?).
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 21:15:54 GMT
When the game first released it was "79% positive on Steam, watch it increase as people finish the game". When BSN's poll first came out it was "watch it increase as people finish the game". And they haven't increased. If anything scores have stayed the same and on Steam have steadily crept down. It doesn't take much to notice trends Steam has been hovering around 71% positive for several days now (perhaps 1 week?). If you go to Steamdb you'll see it's 70.75%. Steamdb is usually about a day before Steam updates it, it seems to update more regularly. About 4 or 5 days ago it was 71.3% ish. So it'll likely hit 70% (once it dips below 70.5) in a few days and then 1 more percentage point and it goes yellow. Yeah. It's teetering. The thing is it;s been steadily down, it hasn't gone up at all.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 23, 2024 21:16:33 GMT
What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"? You can keep arguing that the scores aren't comprehensive all you want, and all day long. But Reddit scores the game at 68%, BSN scores it about the same, and Steam's about to dip out of Mostly Positive and into mixed. Almost every metric on consumer sentiment say the same thing. When the game first released it was "79% positive on Steam, watch it increase as people finish the game". When BSN's poll first came out it was "watch it increase as people finish the game". And they haven't increased. If anything scores have stayed the same and on Steam have steadily crept down. It doesn't take much to notice trends I'm not really arguing anything, I'm asking some very basic questions - where do you get a "BSN score" from (if there was any survey, I - for example - didn't take part in it)???? Like, the whole thing is so preposterous I'm not going to argue anything, because there's no point.
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 21:18:39 GMT
You can keep arguing that the scores aren't comprehensive all you want, and all day long. But Reddit scores the game at 68%, BSN scores it about the same, and Steam's about to dip out of Mostly Positive and into mixed. Almost every metric on consumer sentiment say the same thing. When the game first released it was "79% positive on Steam, watch it increase as people finish the game". When BSN's poll first came out it was "watch it increase as people finish the game". And they haven't increased. If anything scores have stayed the same and on Steam have steadily crept down. It doesn't take much to notice trends I'm not really arguing anything, I'm asking some very basic questions - where do you get a "BSN score" from (if there was any survey, I - for example - didn't take part in it)???? Like, the whole thing is so preposterous I'm not going to argue anything, because there's no point. Oh you haven't voted? Go and vote! xD The poll's in the "what do people think of Dragon Age" thread. I've been calculating the percentages, it started off around 68% after 40 votes. And people were saying "don't worry it will go up" so I've been providing steady updates. Every time I have BSN's vote is consistently between 66 and 68% which is hilarious to me, that it keeps so steady. 180 votes now. Go add to it  EDIT: It's the DA fans, what do you think so far of the game? thread
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Post by smilesja on Nov 23, 2024 21:22:08 GMT
3.4 out of 5 is practically the same as BSN's score btw. So all the people here who say "oh BSN is so negative, I'm going to the reddit now because it's so much more positive" ... wooow lies! People across the board are rating it around 66-68% and I fully expect Steam to settle here also What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"? I mean the same people here are constantly downplaying Veilguard being a top ten seller on October is somehow a bad thing. It’s really baffling to me.
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Post by midnight tea on Nov 23, 2024 21:25:00 GMT
I'm not really arguing anything, I'm asking some very basic questions - where do you get a "BSN score" from (if there was any survey, I - for example - didn't take part in it)???? Like, the whole thing is so preposterous I'm not going to argue anything, because there's no point. Oh you haven't voted? Go and vote! xD The poll's in the "what do people think of Dragon Age" thread. I've been calculating the percentages, it started off around 68% after 40 votes. And people were saying "don't worry it will go up" so I've been providing steady updates. Every time I have BSN's vote is consistently between 66 and 68% which is hilarious to me, that it keeps so steady. 180 votes now. Go add to it  Lol, see, I didn't even know there's a survey and only 180 people voted. That is tiny, never mind unverifiable. You won't be getting any concrete conclusions from there.
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 21:25:55 GMT
What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"? I mean the same people here are constantly downplaying Veilguard being a top ten seller on October is somehow a bad thing. It’s really baffling to me. Hogwarts Legacy, a game that's been out for close to 2 years now? Was 13th on that chart If it had come even close to that it would have been bad.
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Post by Heimdall on Nov 23, 2024 21:27:54 GMT
I mean the same people here are constantly downplaying Veilguard being a top ten seller on October is somehow a bad thing. It’s really baffling to me. Hogwarts Legacy, a game that's been out for close to 2 years now? Was 13th on that chart If it had come even close to that it would have been bad. Hogwarts Legacy was also announced to have sold 30 million copies as of last month, so its more than a little bit of an outlier. (Though I more or less agree with your point). It’s probably selling way better than a two year old game with minimal updates should under normal circumstances. |
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Post by smilesja on Nov 23, 2024 21:29:33 GMT
Oh you haven't voted? Go and vote! xD The poll's in the "what do people think of Dragon Age" thread. I've been calculating the percentages, it started off around 68% after 40 votes. And people were saying "don't worry it will go up" so I've been providing steady updates. Every time I have BSN's vote is consistently between 66 and 68% which is hilarious to me, that it keeps so steady. 180 votes now. Go add to it Lol, see, I didn't even know there's a survey and only 180 people voted. That is tiny, never mind unverifiable. You won't be getting any concrete conclusions from there. Yeah, it’s hard to take it seriously lol.
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 21:31:08 GMT
Oh you haven't voted? Go and vote! xD The poll's in the "what do people think of Dragon Age" thread. I've been calculating the percentages, it started off around 68% after 40 votes. And people were saying "don't worry it will go up" so I've been providing steady updates. Every time I have BSN's vote is consistently between 66 and 68% which is hilarious to me, that it keeps so steady. 180 votes now. Go add to it Lol, see, I didn't even know there's a survey and only 180 people voted. That is tiny, never mind unverifiable. You won't be getting any concrete conclusions from there. I track it because it's fun. I find it hilarious that now 3 different voting systems are returning results so similar to one another. So Steam is positive and negative only, BSN is a straight poll and Reddit is an average over many different categories. And BSN is 67%, Reddit was between 67 and 68%, and Steam is 70.75%. That too me is hilariously intriguing. So I keep track of it because it makes me laugh, though it might bore other people. That being said Veilguard needs to keep out of the yellow ratings. It's a psychological barrier for people and it's been marching steadily towards it since release.
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 21:33:39 GMT
Hogwarts Legacy, a game that's been out for close to 2 years now? Was 13th on that chart If it had come even close to that it would have been bad. Hogwarts Legacy was also announced to have sold 30 million copies as of last month, so its more than a little bit of an outlier. (Though I more or less agree with your point). It’s probably selling way better than a two year old game with minimal updates should under normal circumstances. Quietly as well. Like no fanfare either. I wonder what it said on steamcharts ... Wooooow 17k people daily concurrent still. Add in consoles and you're looking at hundreds of thousands of people still playing daily O.O
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Post by githcheater on Nov 23, 2024 21:35:03 GMT
Steam has been hovering around 71% positive for several days now (perhaps 1 week?). If you go to Steamdb you'll see it's 70.75%. Steamdb is usually about a day before Steam updates it, it seems to update more regularly. About 4 or 5 days ago it was 71.3% ish. So it'll likely hit 70% (once it dips below 70.5) in a few days and then 1 more percentage point and it goes yellow. Yeah. It's teetering. The thing is it;s been steadily down, it hasn't gone up at all. If you go to Steamdb and sign in, you can see that VG is steady at 71.8% positive votes and has not moved in four days.
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Post by smilesja on Nov 23, 2024 21:35:48 GMT
What "BSN score"? Who did any sort of half-legit survey here? And in comparison to the amateur Internet survey based on 1,800 self-reported DA players? Like... how is it that more concrete metrics - like sales charts - are overly-analyzed to try and get a realistic picture of DAVe's success, but one small survey on Reddit is apparently the true and indisputable sentiment of "people across the board"? Apples and oranges ... sales success is not equal to game quality. VG could not even get nominated for RPG of the year. Quality is subjective lol. |
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Post by river82 on Nov 23, 2024 21:41:04 GMT
If you go to Steamdb you'll see it's 70.75%. Steamdb is usually about a day before Steam updates it, it seems to update more regularly. About 4 or 5 days ago it was 71.3% ish. So it'll likely hit 70% (once it dips below 70.5) in a few days and then 1 more percentage point and it goes yellow. Yeah. It's teetering. The thing is it;s been steadily down, it hasn't gone up at all. If you go to Steamdb and sign in, you can see that VG is steady at 71.8% positive votes and has not moved in four days. Hmmmm, adding the cumulative over the past 4 days, 1200 people votes at 70.4% You're right. Looks like it's stabilizing at 71%. Nice! It desperately needs to stay green
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