Maybe you didn't have Fenris in your party with him? His banters with Fenris are very obnoxious. Many of the conversations are Sebastian converting Fenris. When Sebastian is not trying to do that, he is talking about turning in Merrill and Anders to the templars. I could not get him out of my party fast enough.
Also, if you don't kill Anders, Sebastian threatens to return to Starkhaven and bring back an army to destroy Kirkwall.
I don't see how they were obnoxious? Fenris seemed fine talking to him. And he's a grown man who is not particularly impressionable(unless you are Hawke). If he wants to find religion, he's allowed.
Yeah, I read the banter between them and Seastian only brings it up once. The later conversations on the topic are started by Fenris. And their other conversations seemed really nice, like Sebastian offering Fenris a place in Starkhaven as a soldier and trainer, as well as him saying how much Fenris has achieved when he doesn't think he has. Sebastian gets along well with most of the companions, either from the beginning or develops into. The only exception I recall is Anders, and well the animosity is on Ander's side.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Apr 14, 2020 6:21:25 GMT
Yeah, I don't remember every banter, but Fenris and Sebastian seemed to get along really well.
What never really made sense to me was Varric's dislike of him. I mean, I get being annoyed post-DA2 if you've got a Sebastian impotently threatening Kirkwall, but during DA2 it confused me a bit. Varric usually at least tried to make friends. He put up with an unfriendly Carver. Goody-two-shoes Sebastian was worse than that? And he liked Bethany, who is pretty similar, as is Merrill, sometimes.
Yeah, I don't remember every banter, but Fenris and Sebastian seemed to get along really well.
Y’know, I wondered about that too, until it finally dawned on me that Varric felt like Sebastian was horning in on his territory.
Think about it: Varric’s an archer from the Free Marches, and Sebastian’s an archer from the Free Marches. He actually makes Varric a bit redundant, especially since Sebastian can use any bow and Varric is limited to Bianca.
There might have also been a little bit of regional animosity going on. The Free Marches isn’t a country, it’s a loose collection of city-states that share little in common.
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Post by AlleluiaElizabeth on Apr 14, 2020 9:10:51 GMT
I just reread their banter, and Sebastian even comments at one point (in a DLC I think) that Varric's not so dissimilar from how he used to be. So, maybe that's it.
Them talking about the Merchant's Guild vs the court in Starkhaven was funny and also another showcase of (kinda) similarities.
Maybe you didn't have Fenris in your party with him? His banters with Fenris are very obnoxious. Many of the conversations are Sebastian converting Fenris. When Sebastian is not trying to do that, he is talking about turning in Merrill and Anders to the templars. I could not get him out of my party fast enough.
Also, if you don't kill Anders, Sebastian threatens to return to Starkhaven and bring back an army to destroy Kirkwall.
That's the point. Sebastian just talks but Anders does kill.
Not just talk. If you spare Anders, in DA:I Sebastian invades Kirkwall (in a war table mission). You have the choice of helping Aveline defeat his forces.
That's the point. Sebastian just talks but Anders does kill.
Not just talk. If you spare Anders, in DA:I Sebastian invades Kirkwall (in a war table mission). You have the choice of helping Aveline defeat his forces.
I mean in DA2 he just talks, because from what I've seen, people just hate him in DA2.
When it comes to "friend manager", Sebastian obviously fails. Hard. Lawful Neutrals (or Lawful Stupid at times) like him are not cut for this.
Sebastian: It's our duty to tell the templars. Fenris: Then why haven't you done it? Sebastian: I guess I was hoping they'd come to it on their own. Fenris: And then you wouldn't have to betray Hawke's friends, right? Sebastian: That's not reason enough to allow a maleficar to walk free.
(If Anders is in the party) Anders: You think the templars don't know I'm here? They just haven't caught me yet.
(If Merrill is in the party) Merrill: Are you talking about me?
Sebastian: Which of us should do it? Shall we draw lots?
Fenris: Uh-uh. You want to turn them in, you work it out with Hawke.
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When it comes to "friend manager", Sebastian obviously fails. Hard. Lawful Neutrals (or Lawful Stupid at times) like him are not cut for this.
Sebastian: It's our duty to tell the templars. Fenris: Then why haven't you done it? Sebastian: I guess I was hoping they'd come to it on their own. Fenris: And then you wouldn't have to betray Hawke's friends, right? Sebastian: That's not reason enough to allow a maleficar to walk free.
(If Anders is in the party) Anders: You think the templars don't know I'm here? They just haven't caught me yet.
(If Merrill is in the party) Merrill: Are you talking about me?
Sebastian: Which of us should do it? Shall we draw lots?
Fenris: Uh-uh. You want to turn them in, you work it out with Hawke.
Not just talk. If you spare Anders, in DA:I Sebastian invades Kirkwall (in a war table mission). You have the choice of helping Aveline defeat his forces.
I mean in DA2 he just talks, because from what I've seen, people just hate him in DA2.
He’s a prince, I think it’s fair to interpret what he’s saying as credible threats.
There’s a difference between “my drinking buddy wants to declare war on a neighboring country” and “my drinking buddy, Jared Kushner, wants to declare war on a neighboring country.”
I found Sebastian to be lacking in world experience and his naiveté and pro Templar views were aggravating. This guy lived in a Gilded cage and it showed.
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Given that I usually commit the cardinal sins of turning him into a sword 'n board warrior and avoid using most of his spec, I'm in no position to judge.
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Given that I usually commit the cardinal sins of turning him into a sword 'n board warrior and avoid using most of his spec, I'm in no position to judge.
Even with investing in his spec, I think S&B is the way to go with Bull unless you're going to always pair him with a proper tank. Similarly, a lot of people swear by 2H weapons for Cassandra, for better synergies with her offensive abilities. (I get the feeling that some of the character designs in DAI came before they had a good grip on the final combat mechanics.)
I found Sebastian to be lacking in world experience and his naiveté and pro Templar views were aggravating. This guy lived in a Gilded cage and it showed.
Yet it is Varric at the end who objects to us helping the mages on the grounds we are letting "dangerous people run amoke" and approves of taking the side of the Templars for "defending our way of life", which suggests he was being less than honest with us regarding his views of mages generally, as opposed to Bethany, Merrill and Anders. It did rather shock me hearing that comment from him if Bethany is in the Circle because there is no way she could be regarded as dangerous and there were many like her in the Circle who were just innocents caught in the crossfire.
Meanwhile, Sebastian is the only person who questions the debate about responsibility for the death of Elthina when Anders is sitting right in front of us. He doesn't support the annulment and will fight with Hawke to defend the mages. His reaction to Hawke sparing Anders seems understandable to me. Anders was responsible for the death of many people, not just those in the Cathedral but outside as well and as Sebastian also points out, it could have been him in there. Then Anders is also responsible for Meredith declaring an annulment which results in the death of more innocent people. On the whole, I found it very difficult to support the Templars in that final battle as all Meredith needed to do was execute Anders and that should have been an end to it but it seemed to me that the only good reason for not executing Anders was that he appeared to want to be a martyr. Even Anders is surprised if you spare him.
I have to admit, though, that the writers seemed to want to make Sebastian look bad with that threat to destroy Kirkwall and then carrying through with it in DAI. Sebastian must be well aware that if Hawke spared Anders and supported the mages, then they left the city soon after so what would be the point of attacking the city? Meanwhile, if Hawke spared Anders and supported the Templars with Anders as part of the party that was a worse punishment than death for him and it is implied Anders' is going to commit suicide afterwards. It didn't really make sense for a Templar supporter to release Anders. Even a pro-Templar Hawke eventually leaves Kirkwall before Cassandra arrives. So one way or another justice would be seen to be done and Hawke leaves the city regardless long before the events of DAI. Thus it would be odd for Sebastian to attack Kirkwall after such an extended period of time.
I'd also point out that in the canon version of the story, as appears in the comics, Sebastian is on good terms with Kirkwall and its newly appointed Viscount Varric.
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Other shocking headlines you could have written: Voice Cast Got A Spreadsheet of Inexplicable Shouts to Record Voice Cast Got a Script Consisting Only of Random One-Liners Voice Cast Had to Re-record the Same Scene Twelve Times Because a Single Number Changed in Dialogue. Voice Cast Spent Two Recording Sessions Just Screaming Inarticulately Into Microphone
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Mary Kirby @biomarykirby So I should leave out, "Voice Cast Got Scenes Wildly Out of Order Because Prologue Didn't Get Approved Forever"?
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Mary Kirby @biomarykirby Oh yeah. The "end of the arc" somehow always ends up being the first session. Because it's the longest scene that's approved already and isn't going to change. I can't imagine how weird that is.
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes It would be like Patrick Stewart coming in on his first day for Star Trek and being handed the Four Lights scene.
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Crystal McCord @mrscmccord OR the actor asks the director the same question and the answer is “um... sure! Yea let’s go with that!”
Patrick Weekes @patrickweekes I still love every actor who understood “the sound you make when you shrug that is like saying, ‘I dunno’ without actually using words.”
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But, nope, she got it perfectly, first take every time.
Mary Kirby @biomarykirby There is probably no feeling better than when an actor "gets" your character.
David Gaider @davidgaider Right? I can think of so many examples of when the voice actor was the final element that finally brought a character to life. It wasn't even what I'd imagined, but suddenly everything just *clicked* and, from that moment on, THAT was the character.
Jo Berry @joanna_Berry And it makes it so much easier to write that character's lines from then on, too. Feels so much more like listening than trying to think stuff up.