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Post by GalentheYounger on Jun 8, 2023 15:12:10 GMT
Not repeating the same mistake that I made with the games awards and will not be wasting my hours watching. Will be keeping an eye on here and reddit, however!
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Post by The Loyal Nub on Jun 8, 2023 16:13:30 GMT
Not repeating the same mistake that I made with the games awards and will not be wasting my hours watching. Will be keeping an eye on here and reddit, however! There's other games that might be announced and a new Baldur's Gate 3 trailer...no?
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Post by ClarkKent on Jun 8, 2023 17:02:40 GMT
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jun 8, 2023 17:04:38 GMT
FYI pre-sale has (finally) started for the DA Vinyl boxset: spacelab9.com/
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Post by Kabraxal on Jun 8, 2023 17:11:50 GMT
FYI pre-sale has (finally) started for the DA Vinyl boxset: spacelab9.com/And ordered. Thank you! Went with 180g black personally. The coloured variants look good but I know the bard song record will be in HEAVY rotation on my turntable… I’ve had a few similar picture presses wear out on me surprisingly quick.
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Post by Sandetiger on Jun 8, 2023 17:49:42 GMT
I'm really interested in the fact that it's supposedly a record of the dawn of the Golden City through the fall (sundering of magic, the raising of the Veil?) and the emergence of the Black City, seat of the Old Gods. From an earlier description on the vinyl: And... it looks like there is Grey Warden imagery involved in there... Edit: I went ahead and checked the most recent description for the Spacelab9 vinvyl presale, and they had changed the wording again:
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 8, 2023 18:25:08 GMT
So, if the Veil made the Golden City turn black...then was it possible to enter the Golden City before the Veil went up? Or was it still "equidistant" from everywhere else? Also, how does this tie in with the Chantry version of events? If the Golden City was of Elven make, then what about the Maker?
Pardon the rambling, but I have so many questions.
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Post by Sandetiger on Jun 8, 2023 18:33:34 GMT
So, if the Veil made the Golden City turn black...then was it possible to enter the Golden City before the Veil went up? Or was it still "equidistant" from everywhere else? Also, how does this tie in with the Chantry version of events? If the Golden City was of Elven make, then what about the Maker? Pardon the rambling, but I have so many questions. I think it's already been largely established that the Chantry history isn't necessarily the most reliable source. See: Emperor Drakon and the first Inquisitor. I'd take it all with a hefty pinch of salt. What this DOES do is lend further credence to what Corypheus said, wherein the great city was already sundered when they entered the Fade, and it's further in keeping with the 2022 DA Day trailer we got a few months ago. I'd have to assume that the Golden City was accessible in the same manner that the Shattered Library was, via eluvians. It may be that it was a place where only the Evanuris had access, a la the way the Crossroads was set up. But who knows! We'll hopefully find out when the game comes out :-)
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 8, 2023 18:39:22 GMT
So, if the Veil made the Golden City turn black...then was it possible to enter the Golden City before the Veil went up? Or was it still "equidistant" from everywhere else? Also, how does this tie in with the Chantry version of events? If the Golden City was of Elven make, then what about the Maker? Pardon the rambling, but I have so many questions. I think it's already been largely established that the Chantry history isn't necessarily the most reliable source. See: Emperor Drakon and the first Inquisitor. I'd take it all with a hefty pinch of salt. What this DOES do is lend further credence to what Corypheus said, wherein the great city was already sundered when they entered the Fade, and it's further in keeping with the 2022 DA Day trailer we got a few months ago. I'd have to assume that the Golden City was accessible in the same manner that the Shattered Library was, via eluvians. It may be that it was a place where only the Evanuris had access, a la the way the Crossroads was set up. But who knows! We'll hopefully find out when the game comes out :-) But if the Chantry isn't reliable (I personally have no qualms about this) wouldn't this all mean that the Maker isn't real? I seem to recall Bioware implying that they wouldn't neither confirm or deny the existence of the Maker.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 8, 2023 18:40:45 GMT
On a side note, the Summer Game Fest started streaming on Youtube at 21:30 my time but then they announced the actual stream wouldn't start until 22:00. I already feel clownish.
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Post by colfoley on Jun 8, 2023 18:49:04 GMT
I think it's already been largely established that the Chantry history isn't necessarily the most reliable source. See: Emperor Drakon and the first Inquisitor. I'd take it all with a hefty pinch of salt. What this DOES do is lend further credence to what Corypheus said, wherein the great city was already sundered when they entered the Fade, and it's further in keeping with the 2022 DA Day trailer we got a few months ago. I'd have to assume that the Golden City was accessible in the same manner that the Shattered Library was, via eluvians. It may be that it was a place where only the Evanuris had access, a la the way the Crossroads was set up. But who knows! We'll hopefully find out when the game comes out :-) But if the Chantry isn't reliable (I personally have no qualms about this) wouldn't this all mean that the Maker isn't real? I seem to recall Bioware implying that they wouldn't neither confirm or deny the existence of the Maker. not necessarily. *sniffs* I smell lore video.
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Post by Sandetiger on Jun 8, 2023 18:52:25 GMT
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jun 8, 2023 18:55:30 GMT
Has anybody got any recommendations for a great turntable under £100? I usually just sail the seven seas for my music, but Im thinking that I might have to jump into the Vinyl market for some of my fave albums!
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jun 8, 2023 18:56:34 GMT
Well, well, well, what do we have here?
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Post by Sharable Horizon on Jun 8, 2023 18:57:45 GMT
Oooh! So if we’re going by symbols on their helms, then very far right would be the same character and/or related to the giant sea serpent monster in the concept art? Excited!
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Post by luketrevelyan on Jun 8, 2023 18:58:17 GMT
Hmm...definitely interesting that the vinyl artwork is directly tied to things we've seen in past DAD teasers
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 8, 2023 19:05:11 GMT
Hmm, well some of them have definite pointed ears, so that does pretty much confirm they are the 7 Creator gods left after they murdered Mythal. (I am still calling them the Creators because it has never been clear if the Forgotten Ones are included in the group of Evanuris). I am going to assume the middle one is Elgar'nan, as he is always seen as their leader and I'm pretty sure the others wouldn't have moved against Mythal without his approval. This was also hinted at in one of the mosaics (which I think the Imperium just re-purposed as suggested by the dwarf) where there is a dragon being attacked by two figures but it isn't looking at them but another figure standing to one side as though not involved, as though the dragon knows that figure is really where the blame lies.
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Post by Hrungr on Jun 8, 2023 19:13:46 GMT
Derek Wilks @deremixliterally me every other day since coming back from vacation
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 8, 2023 19:15:24 GMT
So, if the Veil made the Golden City turn black...then was it possible to enter the Golden City before the Veil went up? There is something in the legends of the Avvar to suggest it may have been. They have a story where the City of the Gods is raised into the sky so that mortals could no longer reach it. As the Fade is equated to the sky/air in many of the ancient references, it would seem it was accessible at one point, which would fit with how Solas claims the world operated prior to the Veil. However: It may be that it was a place where only the Evanuris had access, a la the way the Crossroads was set up. But who knows! We'll hopefully find out when the game comes out :-) This does seem a possibility. The Dalish legend of Arlathan (which is clearly about the Eternal City not the settlement in the forest) says: And at the center of the world stood the great city of Arlathan, a place of knowledge and debate, where the best of the ancient elves would go to trade knowledge, greet old friends, and settle disputes that had gone on for millennia. Notice how the story says that only certain elves went there, likely only those "chosen" or permitted by the gods to do so, most likely via eluvian. The rest seems to fit with what we saw in the memories in the Vir Dirthara. Either the Veil itself or some other action of Solas and his followers would seem to have either destroyed or blocked the access to the city, even from the current eluvian network, although Flemeth did have one that gave access to the ordinary Fade. Presumably that is connected with the trap he laid for the Evanuris.
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Post by gervaise21 on Jun 8, 2023 19:21:51 GMT
But if the Chantry isn't reliable (I personally have no qualms about this) wouldn't this all mean that the Maker isn't real? I seem to recall Bioware implying that they wouldn't neither confirm or deny the existence of the Maker. We've being saying this for a long time, definitely since Trespasser when we discovered the Veil wasn't a permanent fixture from the creation of the world, although it was looking decidedly dodgy even back when Corypheus first said (in Legacy) that the city wasn't golden when he got there and confirmed this in DAI. Of course, Giselle had a Chantry fudge answer for this. Meanwhile, I think the writers will claim they have left enough wriggle room on their claim never to confirm or deny the existence of the Maker because the revelations only contradict the Chant of Light, which we have strong reasons to suspect the Chantry tampered with anyway. To put it another way, just because the Chantry version is hogwash doesn't actually disprove the Maker, just their version of him.
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Post by Grog Muffins on Jun 8, 2023 19:50:25 GMT
I think the first one to the left of the middle should be in the middle, it looks like their headpiece would look like the middle one if seen from above rather than from the profile. EDIT: Looking at it a little more, it might be just the one rod but it still is incongruent with the design of the rest of the headpieces. The other ones are made to have the ornaments be parallel with the face, so looked at from the front, but this dude's ornament is parallel with his skull, so looked at from above, which is weird. He's mirrored to the leftmost dude, so both are in profile, but the helmet perspective doesn't match.
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Post by Kabraxal on Jun 8, 2023 20:22:35 GMT
Has anybody got any recommendations for a great turntable under £100? I usually just sail the seven seas for my music, but Im thinking that I might have to jump into the Vinyl market for some of my fave albums! With or without built in speakers or cd player? I have a stand alone and a retro all in one with even a cassette deck… well, and my grandfathers with the 8 track. The retro all in one isn’t going to beat a high end system, but they usually run around 150-300 US dollars from what I’ve seen. I’m not an audiophile with a thousand records, I swear.
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