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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 11, 2018 22:04:13 GMT
![](https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gu0rbt0oe68wakgd1jn1k/lacehardingveil.png?rlkey=j11trlqeav6qyktfw6kuhfe7l&raw=1)
I'm betting that Lace Harding is sufficiently inconspicuous to be a main character in DA4. Not one of the leaders of the Inquisition so can pass below the radar in Tevinter. On top of that, an awesome romance prospect, or is that just me? Your thoughts? ![](https://www.dropbox.com/s/d3xhfdl7g4jvuf3/laceharding2.png?raw=1) NOTE: I'm folding in the good discussion started by jasonpogo which fell away some months ago, as that's well worth including here.
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Post by jasonpogo on Apr 12, 2018 17:42:37 GMT
Yes this is the one thing I am really hopefull will be in the game. She is a great character and we have never had a Dwarf romance. Since I always play a Dwarf when givin a chance I want a Dwarf option please!!
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Post by LogicGunn on Apr 12, 2018 19:29:16 GMT
I adore Harding. I really wanted her to be a full blown romance in DAI. ![<3](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/bYmUqWGYNIhNE0GJanhP.png)
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Post by Walter Black on Apr 12, 2018 20:00:56 GMT
Nah ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/YQRGJSfUCiPUBkxIgOCU.png) . At the end of Trespasser, the Inquisitor says they need people that Solas doesn't know, and he's built a pretty good profile of Harding's personality, capabilities and tactics. I wouldn't mind if the Inquisitor was a secondary playable character (like Ciri in The Wild Hunt), but I would rather not be denied a new PC, nor do I want to be railroaded into serving the Inquisition again as Inky's sidekick. Having Harding as a Companion forces us into that role whether we want it or not. Look, I don't hate Lace, she's a perfectly fine character on her own, agreeable... safe... boring ![:whistle:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/ls0fKwdjQTzsvdHhjmyn.png) . In Dragon Age 4 we will likely get one female dwarven Companion, and Harding would be at the expense of another that might be more interesting and better fit the game's themes: -Dagna, Mad Scientist Extraordinaire. I've haven't seen any evidence that she ever personally interacted with Solas, and while his spies might have, she has actual contacts and story hooks to be in Tevinter beyond the Inquisition. -Valta. Solas might have had limited interaction with her in Descent, but he can't guess how Dwarf Mage Titan Avatar will act ![B)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/BDtiLeHybE0ccc0vDbRh.png) . -A ruthlessly ambitious and pragmatic Ambassidoria type. -A Silent Sister Proving Champion. -A Kal-Sharok rogue.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2018 20:32:17 GMT
I support this request. Lace has sturdy ankles and I find that attractive in a lady dwarf.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 12, 2018 20:33:29 GMT
Just gonna leave this here... Jesse Hicks @piet_DepsiIf you were to bring one DA companion back as a companion in DA4, who would it be? Would really love your opinion. Mike Laidlaw @mike_LaidlawCan I say Harding? I think I’d say Harding. This all depends on the existence of a DA4, however.
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Post by SofaJockey on Apr 12, 2018 20:37:05 GMT
I support this request. Lace has sturdy ankles and I find that attractive in a lady dwarf. Absolutely. ![](https://www.dropbox.com/s/4hl8q7jftrs09s4/lace.jpg?raw=1) I'd pin this thread to the top of the forum if that wasn't an abuse of privilege...
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Post by warden on Apr 12, 2018 21:27:41 GMT
please let me kill her, thank you.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Apr 12, 2018 21:48:18 GMT
Dagna, Mad Scientist Extraordinaire. I've haven't seen any evidence that she ever personally interacted with Solas, and while his spies might have, she has actual contacts and story hooks to be in Tevinter beyond the Inquisition. If you don't romance Sera, she and Dagna are together and even get their own Trespasser epilogue slide. The rest doesn't hold up with the very final scene, showing the Inquisitor, their LI, Leliana, Cassandra, and Harding. Both Charter and Harding are said to be taking Leliana's place. The Inquisition will be involved in some capacity and I do find it unlikely that a new PC won't be recruited, just as is shown with the recruitments in the comics that have since been released (where Charter is the primary liaison). None of that means she will be a companion, but also doesn't rule out advisor with possible romance. And considering Weekes referred to what she potentially had with the Inquisitor as "flirting" and not a romance, it seems that possibility is open.
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Post by enaste on Apr 12, 2018 22:20:29 GMT
While I think Harding is adorable, I doubt I wish to have a potential dwarven companion slot "taken". Her backstory is very simple and quiet, which is of course no criteria to exclude Lace from the cast, but the more traditional or Kal-Sharok-y female dwarf spot would allow writers and players to explore a completely new trope. I can see Harding instead becoming an advisor as already mentioned. And well, there's always the possibility of having two dwarven ladies on the team ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/KGsHESiZGZU0pPuHuhQr.png)
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Post by Nightscrawl on Apr 13, 2018 0:52:34 GMT
Her backstory is very simple and quiet, which is of course no criteria to exclude Lace from the cast, but the more traditional or Kal-Sharok-y female dwarf spot would allow writers and players to explore a completely new trope. They can certainly add more to her backstory. I rather doubt we learn everything about her in DAI. Aside from that, I agree that we could use a more dwarfy dwarf. We've had Varric for two games now, who is surface-born. A change from that would be nice. We had Sigrun in DAA, but that was an expansion (and there were no romance options), and I'd argue that the DAA followers aren't as fleshed out as their full game counterparts.
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Post by Sifr on Apr 13, 2018 4:14:14 GMT
We need to know if she developed her fear of heights from falling out of heaven? ![:innocent:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/TNByCvvryEEheACiCpWO.png)
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Post by Fredward on Apr 13, 2018 4:20:15 GMT
No, Bianca.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Apr 13, 2018 4:22:46 GMT
I'd rather Lace Harding not be a companion or LI please.
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Post by Nightscrawl on Apr 13, 2018 5:43:29 GMT
You can get splinters that way, you know. Seems uncomfortable.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Apr 13, 2018 6:02:58 GMT
I will take any and all dwarves BioWare is willing to fork over. Especially if my PC can finally smooch them!
I would definitely like to see another underground dwarf as a companion (especially if they're from the Ambassadoria!) but this could be easily achieved by having Harding and a new dwarf companion. (I know that they normally only give us one per game, but Awakening had two and there's no reason DA4 shouldn't as well.
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Post by coldsteelblue on Apr 13, 2018 9:21:31 GMT
Yes, bring back Harding & as an LI for sure.
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Post by Fredward on Apr 13, 2018 11:27:03 GMT
You can get splinters that way, you know. Seems uncomfortable. Seems to have been working for Varric for a good long while, I'm sure he has an effective... oil.
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Post by Vall on Apr 13, 2018 11:31:26 GMT
I support this request. Lace has sturdy ankles and I find that attractive in a lady dwarf. Absolutely. I'd pin this thread to the top of the forum if that wasn't an abuse of privilege...
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Post by phoray on Apr 13, 2018 11:55:05 GMT
Probably not going to be a romance able companion.
May be a non romance able Advisor
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Post by Unicephalon 40-D on Apr 13, 2018 12:15:09 GMT
Does she have lace to get me hardin' ? ![:hue:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/ylSGZfoaGJIOHQXDloNH.png)
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Post by Walter Black on Apr 13, 2018 13:59:11 GMT
Dagna, Mad Scientist Extraordinaire. I've haven't seen any evidence that she ever personally interacted with Solas, and while his spies might have, she has actual contacts and story hooks to be in Tevinter beyond the Inquisition. If you don't romance Sera, she and Dagna are together and even get their own Trespasser epilogue slide. They could break up after seeing how little they actually have in common, deciding they work better as friends. Or they could split over life goals and religion; seriously, how is it fair that Sera refuses to accept Lavellan's Dalish faith, but is perfectly OK with Dagna researching magic and wanting to contact the Titans? Especially after Descent? Their whole pairing seems baffling to me anyway, as the two of them never interact in the base game. Like the writers' wanting someone, anyone to be a couple, drew names from a hat and said "sure, why not" . Oh, and before anyone brings up Bioware's track record of canon lesbian matches, I would argue that they should have had positive couples who actually make sense together in the base game, rather than some last minute, haphazard ending slide. Like having Briala to move on to a better, healthier relationship, instead of allowing even the possibility of reconciling with Celine .
The Inquisition will be involved sure, but it would be better as optional allies rather mandatory, so that the new PC can forge their own identity. I mean, what if I want my new hero to disagree with the Inquisitor on whether to redeem or kill Solas, to seek stability or violent overthrow, don't trust foreigners even remotely connected to the Southern Chantry. or they just don't like them?
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Post by MediocreOgre on Apr 13, 2018 15:01:03 GMT
All i remember of her from my DAI play through was that she was there and said things and was in a cut scene that was always bugged for me (the intro to the hinterlands always skipped whatever she does to her smirking) and that your first conversation with her if you have Varric just feels stilted and awkward and like her character was to set up a lame joke. And you could flirt with her. I know more about her now only because of her online fanbase.
That being said she has room for development, which is good.
That being said she is weirdly similar to Varric (auburn haired surface dwarf who is bro level chill and uses a ranged weapon) to the extent that i jokingly thought her first name would be “Varricina” and not Lace. Though I guess she is less urban and more of a country bumpkin. I guess she is basically a DA hobbit.
Not that that is a bad thing but i am ready for a non surface dwarf after two games of varric. At leasr for companion.
All for lace being a prominant, romanceable character though. And i’d probably get over it and be fine with it if she was the dwarf companion. But i hope they take her in a different direction than the girl next door witth a bow
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Post by wright1978 on Apr 13, 2018 18:31:45 GMT
please let me kill her, thank you. Already sharpening my murder knife for that annoying dwarf.
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Post by Sifr on Apr 13, 2018 19:20:23 GMT
Seems to have been working for Varric for a good long while, I'm sure he has an effective... oil. Warning: Overuse may lead to a misaligned cocking ring. Please use Bianca responsibly.
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