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Post by CHRrOME on Sept 26, 2019 3:06:49 GMT
2K are out of control. Continuing to bully and harass people at their homes. 3rd time that I know this happens. This time again because of some mod a guy was making for RDR2, they contacted his mother instead of talking to the actual guy.
Just take this into consideration the next time you buy a product from them. Definitely not telling you what to do, but have it in mind.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Sept 26, 2019 3:28:10 GMT
^ Well, BL3 is reportedly selling like hot cakes so I guess most players are not concerned over the 2K bullying reports.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 26, 2019 14:07:13 GMT
New indie dev studio founded by people who created The Elder Scrolls (and by created I mean Arena and Daggerfall, one of them also worked on Morrowind and Oblivion as a writer). OnceLost GamesOnceLost Games is an independent game development studio dedicated to reinvigorating the role-playing game genre with much-needed new ideas. Founded by veterans of two generations of gaming enthusiasts and experts, we aim to meet the gap between the deep, complex design pillars of games from the 1990's, with the production values, improved controls and quality of life features in games today.
They will reveal more later this year. There are some more information on their discord: - "classic" high fantasy world - will be 1st person - currently only slated for PC unless money/time permit otherwise - Engine probably Unreal (they seems to have tried Unity too) - wants to support mods - non-linear (but will have an ending) - not fans of Skyrim power fantasy (i.e. the Savior) and gameplay simplifications. edit: Some more info - they are still in pre-production, so don't expect anything soon I guess.
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Post by CHRrOME on Sept 26, 2019 15:09:12 GMT
^ Well, BL3 is reportedly selling like hot cakes so I guess most players are not concerned over the 2K bullying reports. Not just BL3, it's GTA, Red Dead, everything is doing just fine. Normies are gonna be normies, they can't be bothered to worry about casino update in GTA V, and 2K couldn't be more blatant about it. Some people just want to play a good game (and 2K games are fucking amazing, I'll give them that) and not be concerned about such matters, I respect that. But it's important to at least have all the info beforehand.
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Post by melbella on Sept 27, 2019 1:02:11 GMT
melbella greatly disapproves
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Post by azarhal on Sept 27, 2019 1:50:36 GMT
melbella greatly disapproves They are less or more making Daggerfall 2 in term of gameplay design. That was a 1st person game, almost a blobber (no party) actually considering the crappy mouselook support at release.
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Post by UutIVvdPw7END0Ef on Oct 4, 2019 17:00:23 GMT
www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61153/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Coming-to-PC-November-5thRead Dead Redemption 2 coming to PC on November 5 (2019) via Rockstar launcher and Epic Games, with Steam on December (2019). The fact that it's just 1 month exclusive means that either Epic Game's revenue split/guaranteed sales did not cover for unsold units of The Outer Worlds/Borderlands 3 to reach expected units sold by the quarter, or Epic Games is running out of money to give.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Oct 4, 2019 18:31:42 GMT
www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61153/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Coming-to-PC-November-5thRead Dead Redemption 2 coming to PC on November 5 (2019) via Rockstar launcher and Epic Games, with Steam on December (2019). The fact that it's just 1 month exclusive means that either Epic Game's revenue split/guaranteed sales did not cover for unsold units of The Outer Worlds/Borderlands 3 to reach expected units sold by the quarter, or Epic Games is running out of money to give. RS knows they'll make more money with more platforms. Epic can fuck right off. This news made my day. I was beginning to think it wouldn't come till next year, and announcing it just a month prior to release is awesome.
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Post by Lavochkin on Oct 5, 2019 13:15:21 GMT
www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61153/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Coming-to-PC-November-5thRead Dead Redemption 2 coming to PC on November 5 (2019) via Rockstar launcher and Epic Games, with Steam on December (2019). The fact that it's just 1 month exclusive means that either Epic Game's revenue split/guaranteed sales did not cover for unsold units of The Outer Worlds/Borderlands 3 to reach expected units sold by the quarter, or Epic Games is running out of money to give. Good news, will (eventually) get it on Steam, but Epic and its store can fuck right off.
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Post by CHRrOME on Oct 5, 2019 14:16:53 GMT
www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/61153/Red-Dead-Redemption-2-Coming-to-PC-November-5thRead Dead Redemption 2 coming to PC on November 5 (2019) via Rockstar launcher and Epic Games, with Steam on December (2019). The fact that it's just 1 month exclusive means that either Epic Game's revenue split/guaranteed sales did not cover for unsold units of The Outer Worlds/Borderlands 3 to reach expected units sold by the quarter, or Epic Games is running out of money to give. Maybe 2K is trying to earn some brownie points by holding the game hostage for just one month. Although I doubt it, normies are gonna buy anyways no matter the platform, they've learned that with BL3. Probably they just don't care at this point for the exclusivity thing, so they took less money this time for less hostage time. As for EPIC not having money, yeah I very much doubt it. They are drowning in cash atm, they have just started this business. It's gonna be a while before this backfires for them, if at all.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 5, 2019 14:57:23 GMT
Too bad you need to install another private launcher for RDR2 now... They can fuck right off with that as well. All AAA publishers are making you their bitch now, it's disgusting. But even more disgusting how many people are OK with this.
Well, since I played the game on PS4 already and there don't seem to be private servers I won't buy the game again to play with my buddy when he gets it for PC. If he's still interested.
Now that Rockstar announced they don't care about the SP anymore and are happy to just ride the MTX wave with the online part like everyone else, I think they go on my shitlist too.
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Post by CHRrOME on Oct 5, 2019 16:10:45 GMT
Too bad you need to install another private launcher for RDR2 now... They can fuck right off with that as well. All AAA publishers are making you their bitch now, it's disgusting. But even more disgusting how many people are OK with this. Well, since I played the game on PS4 already and there don't seem to be private servers I won't buy the game again to play with my buddy when he gets it for PC. If he's still interested. Now that Rockstar announced they don't care about the SP anymore and are happy to just ride the MTX wave with the online part like everyone else, I think they go on my shitlist too. I personally couldn't care less for RDR, not a game I like. Don't like the setting, don't like what the game is about. Rockstar prove it with GTAV, they went full on line and fuck SP content. No surprises they're going the same route for RDR2. As for people being okay with the EPIC shit I'm baffled too. Recently in a podcast, Karak from ACG mentioned something that I wasn't taking into consideration, and it's actually true to an extent. And it's that most people don't even know who Randy is, talking BL3 for instance, they know it was developed by Gearbox, and that about it. They don't know about controversies, don't care for them. They see the game and they are gonna buy it. It's like when one actor/actress that you really like says something stupid (as in controversial) if you're into social stuff you probably are aware of it, but most people are not even aware or can't be bothered. So they keep liking said person nonetheless. That's one thing, I get it. However everyone on PC knows what Steam is, and everyone enjoys at least one function from Steam, so it doesn't explain why people just care nothing for downloading the Epic launcher instead, and are fine with the PC-console war they started, when it's common knowledge that store has no features aside from "buy game". I'm trying to understand why would people concede so easily, I'm thinking about the fact most probably are not interested in the social aspect and play the game alone, but still, if you bought 100 games on Steam, and now all of a sudden you have to buy this one game elsewhere, when you have the other two on Steam, Isn't that at least a bit annoying? That is inexplicable to me.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 5, 2019 16:52:01 GMT
CHRrOME When it comes to scandals surrounding people, I have a bit of a different stance. I couldn't care less if an actor is a horrible person. If they are good actors, for example, I can respect that part of them. In fact, I find it so silly that when Tom Cruise went all Scientology crazy people started hating on his movies and his acting. People are stupidly emotional about these kind of things. If they consider somebody bad, then everything they ever did now is bad. Which is ridiculous. I always thought he was a decent actor. People can be gifted artists and assholes at the same time. And I can enjoy the art but dislike the person, you know? Now with videogames it's more complicated because it's an interactive media that tries to bullshit me constantly and negatively impacts my enjoyment with all these hoops they make you jump through now. TV has become the same way with subscriptions. I have to get like 5 different ones just to see 5 shows I'm interested in. And then they take the show off the catalogue or sell it to a different network and I'm left with an unfinished season unless I shell out more money. AAA gaming and TV are much alike these days. Platform wars. And in the end the consumer always pays more. So if a COMPANY, and whoever represents it, decides to do things I don't like because these decisions affect the future of my favorite hobby, then I will take a stance and boycott them. Well aware that none of it matters because most people just run after whatever looks good. And then afterwards they decry their stupid decisions and I laugh.
I'm so sick of all of this that I might just go ahead and pirate stuff again after 20 years of paying honest money like an idiot for my games, my music and my TV. Good old discs have never looked more attractive! No limited offer hassle, no connection issues. I wonder when they'll stop making blurays so that you're completely at the mercy of these streaming services...
Problem with games is these always online GaaS games keep you from pirating. Hence why companies push it... There is no other reason to have the SP campaign always online too except for anti piracy reasons.
As an adult I used to think people who pirate stuff are assholes. It's stealing. And I don't like people freeloading. But now? Now I think companies are actually asking for it. They've become bullies. And bullies don't get rewarded with my money.
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Post by slimgrin727 on Oct 5, 2019 16:57:12 GMT
Too bad you need to install another private launcher for RDR2 now... They can fuck right off with that as well. All AAA publishers are making you their bitch now, it's disgusting. But even more disgusting how many people are OK with this. Well, since I played the game on PS4 already and there don't seem to be private servers I won't buy the game again to play with my buddy when he gets it for PC. If he's still interested. Now that Rockstar announced they don't care about the SP anymore and are happy to just ride the MTX wave with the online part like everyone else, I think they go on my shitlist too. Well the RS DRM was always required, they just upgraded it into a proper store/client now. Since I like to avoid stacking DRM, I'll just buy it directly from RS this time. I only got GTA5 on Steam because it was half off. I'm not ok with this recent rise of different clients, but I'm not going to pirate either.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 5, 2019 17:14:42 GMT
Well the RS DRM was always required, they just upgraded it into a proper store/client now. Since I like to avoid stacking DRM, I'll just buy it directly from RS this time. I only got GTA5 on Steam because it was half off. I'm not ok with this recent rise of different clients, but I'm not going to pirate either. I don't have an issue with regular DRM. Companies are entitled to protect their products. I don't care if that makes games a bit slower. I have an issue with always online and being able to just pull the game off the server whenever they please. Or push gameplay changes to push MTX (=grind) I don't want. It's bad enough Bethesda forces game updates on FO4 for their stupid MTX store I don't care about. There are ways around it including keeping Steam offline but it happens to me anyway all the time. I have to waste my time updating mods to keep up with a store I never wanted in the first place. This is the future of all games of big publishers.
While I'll probably just not buy the games that require more launchers and have greedy MTX, I no longer condemn those who pirate because they are fed up with it and just want to play a game in peace.
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Post by CHRrOME on Oct 5, 2019 18:42:40 GMT
Problem with games is these always online GaaS games keep you from pirating. Hence why companies push it... There is no other reason to have the SP campaign always online too except for anti piracy reasons. As an adult I used to think people who pirate stuff are assholes. It's stealing. And I don't like people freeloading. But now? Now I think companies are actually asking for it. They've become bullies. And bullies don't get rewarded with my money.
Yet again BL3 for instance. I feel they are so afraid of people pirating they made the game always on line, a predominantly single player game, with coop as "MP" component... on line all the time? what? But that's the thing, they're using their events in game (halloween, more loot drop, etc) as facades to hide the fact the game has a super heavy DRM running all the time requiring online, a DRM known to tank computer's resources a hell of a lot more of what it was back in the day with certain Anti Virus brands, and that is something I do not support on the slightest. Game performs like shit and it's probably thanks to the stupid DRM, same happened to AC Origins, or Odyssey don't remember. If you are actively trying to ban pirates by punishing honest folk who bought your game adding all this hassle for them, what the fuck is wrong with these companies? They should reward those who bought the game, not hindering their experience as a byproduct of actively punishing pirates. That's the stupid GaaS system shit, companies don't care about how crap their games are it seems, so long as they don't "loose" money via pirates. It's a double monetization scheme. And the morality of it has been discussed many times, everyone has their standpoint. The reality is, those who pirate, will pirate, so you ain't loosing money. Those who don't, might, if you push them too far. Companies know it, so they add layer on top of layer of DRM to stale as much as possible the unavoidable and capitalizing on FoMO syndrome. I don't have an issue with regular DRM. Companies are entitled to protect their products. I don't care if that makes games a bit slower. That's something I don't support. The problem with the "a bit" is that later on it's becoming more and more and more. If your DRM is tanking my PC or asking for more resources than the game needs, why should I be punished? Why should I spend more money (better PC components, say) when the game doesn't need it, just because they added the latest iteration of the most annoying of DRMs so they can feel safer and piracy wont be an issue for a year, after the game looses a lot of its relevance as it is in today's market. Why is the honest consumer being punished here? I remember back in the day with GTA V. I bought it and couldn't play it because of a memory leak issue they were not aware of, Rockstar never helped me (their tech support monkeys are useless), yet I know of people with shittier computers who pirated the game and played it just fine.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Oct 6, 2019 12:57:16 GMT
CHRrOME The honest consumer is ALWAYS the idiot! ;P That's the sad reality of life, nice honest people are always taken advantage of. If DRM makes a game 10% slower, I don't care. If the impact is severe, however, then of course I wouldn't be thrilled, either. Which games are known to be severely crippled by DRM? I rarely by AAA games anymore, so I don't think I'm much affected. Farcry 5 ran smoother than any other AAA game I've played on PC the past 5 years. The only one that maintained 60 fps on max settings.
As a gamer you're basically stuck between DRM related issues and poorly optimized indie games that run like ass too. In fact, optimization for PC ports seems to get neglected all the time now. Makes me wonder if Nvidia has a say in this to push faster hardware upgrades... *tinfoil hat time* I mean, how come RDR2 looks so amazing on a stupid console and runs quite fine but when I fire up a recent game on PC and push all the bling to max, I get maybe 30 fps even with a GTX 1080Ti! And then the game does NOT necessarily look better than a console exclusive. WTF. The gap between console and PC version is getting smaller and smaller while hardware requirements are ridiculously high. Something is fishy about that...
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Post by river82 on Oct 11, 2019 3:09:02 GMT
Ho boy, I was waiting for someone on BSN to talk about this. But IMO the BSN boards in general are so divorced from what's happening in gaming that I'm not surprised it took 3 days to turn up. Yes I said I was going to leave the forums, but this isn't about Bioware so … Hooo, where to start on this shitshow? It's important to preface this with the idea that Hong Kong will not win this fight, so people can cut the "rise up Hong Kongers and fight back" stuff. You're just getting people killed. The important thing to understand is that Blizzard is becoming increasingly big in China, and to operate in China a Chinese company has to have some manner of control over the operations. Their recent pivot into the mobile industry is a move designed to gain more traction in China. So Blizzard will not do anything to disturb their investments into China, it just won't happen. When gamers complain about gaming companies being corporate and unhuman, this is the sort of thing it can lead to. The idea that money is dictating their response on a human rights issue. It's not surprising from a corporate point of view, it makes total sense if they want to earn more Chinese money, but the response lacks a human element. And this isn't just a Blizzard issue either. It's also an NBA issue because they also invest heavily in China. It's an Apple issue, because they also invest heavily in China. Gaming studios becoming corporate means they will treat their consumers like money pits and their actions will be heavily dictated by financial concerns. But the reason I'm making this post today is because Mark Kern's response (pasted below) to this is required reading. REQUIRED READING!
Gamers rise up indeed! We won't be able to affect what is happening in Hong Kong, but think hard on how you spend your money and the behaviour you're tacitly endorsing. www.boredpanda.com/boycott-blizzard-mark-kern/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=organic
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Post by Fredward on Oct 11, 2019 5:30:22 GMT
With Tencent owning 40% of Epic Games if their store actually starts to take off/become meaningful competition for Steam (and I see inroads E.V.E.R.Y.W.H.E.R.E) expect this kind of overt obsequiousness to Chinese interests becoming the new norm.
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 11, 2019 6:14:49 GMT
Western companies have smooched China's derrière for years, I'm honestly not sure why Blizzard is getting singled out for it now. It's not a new thing at all. Complying with China's wishes is necessary to sell your product there and get into that sweet big market. And China is known to carry a grudge if you've displeased them once.
For example, in the book World War Z, the zombie apocalypse starts in China. The Brad Pitt movie changed this to Korea to avoid Chinese censorship, but guess what? It was no good because China was still grumpy about "Seven Years in Tibet".
Many western companies want Chinese money, China knows this and makes a price for it, and many are willing to pay it.
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Post by saandrig on Oct 11, 2019 6:35:21 GMT
I mean, how come RDR2 looks so amazing on a stupid console and runs quite fine but when I fire up a recent game on PC and push all the bling to max, I get maybe 30 fps even with a GTX 1080Ti! And then the game does NOT necessarily look better than a console exclusive. WTF. The gap between console and PC version is getting smaller and smaller while hardware requirements are ridiculously high. Something is fishy about that... Easy answer - PC optimization and/or quality of the monitor. It's rare nowadays for a game to be decently optimized for PC. While developers are forced to meet the console requirements, they slack it off when it comes to PC. "Midrange PC specs are already better than a console, leave it as it is, it will run on Low to Medium in it's current state. Why work extra?". Then you have the fact that a very small percentage of PC players actually have a monitor that is above 60Hz or above 1080p resolution. Which barely makes a difference compared to a console, especially if you use the console with a kick ass TV while sporting a 10 year old TN monitor for PC (or worse - a laptop). Then you have options on PC that are often put there to eat resources, but without bringing any visual improvement. Or options that are missing in the console version, but don't bring much difference anyway. Console games use many tricks to look good on weak hardware. Developers just don't bother to do the same for PC and are happy to let you use your PC's brute power force to reach the same quality. Fun tidbit - in AC Odyssey I found an area at a lake where on PC there are lots of underwater plants near the shore, swinging under the surface, etc. Same area on console version - no plants, but a lot of completely stationary tree leaves on the surface. Much less hardware strain. And frankly the tree leaves looked better. So the PC might get more features, but it can end as a downgrade too. Still, the PC has as a main advantage the high refresh rates (here is a secret - Ultra settings are rarely any different in quality than High and Very High, especially above 1080p, but eat up up to 50% more resources) and (hooray) modding.
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Post by river82 on Oct 11, 2019 7:24:31 GMT
Western companies have smooched China's derrière for years, I'm honestly not sure why Blizzard is getting singled out for it now. It's not a new thing at all. Complying with China's wishes is necessary to sell your product there and get into that sweet big market. And China is known to carry a grudge if you've displeased them once. For example, in the book World War Z, the zombie apocalypse starts in China. The Brad Pitt movie changed this to Korea to avoid Chinese censorship, but guess what? It was no good because China was still grumpy about "Seven Years in Tibet". Many western companies want Chinese money, China knows this and makes a price for it, and many are willing to pay it. Did any other gaming company go so far as to post on their weibo site that they would "protect our national honor/glory" or "protect the glory of the country" depending how you translate it? I can't recall a company so aggressively shutting down critical speech and opinions, and then say to Chinese consumers "we will protect your honor" while handing out disproportionally harsh sentences. I guess what I'm saying is that it's never been so visible before. People involved in gaming knows it's been happening for a while, but you couldn't point to really obvious, concrete examples. A few bits here which painted China positively, removing things China didn't want. But this, combined with the NBA mess, shows distinctly how China is influencing and pressuring American companies in ways the casual person can easily see.
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Post by Gileadan on Oct 11, 2019 7:40:10 GMT
Western companies have smooched China's derrière for years, I'm honestly not sure why Blizzard is getting singled out for it now. It's not a new thing at all. Complying with China's wishes is necessary to sell your product there and get into that sweet big market. And China is known to carry a grudge if you've displeased them once. For example, in the book World War Z, the zombie apocalypse starts in China. The Brad Pitt movie changed this to Korea to avoid Chinese censorship, but guess what? It was no good because China was still grumpy about "Seven Years in Tibet". Many western companies want Chinese money, China knows this and makes a price for it, and many are willing to pay it. Did any other gaming company go so far as to post on their weibo site that they would "protect our national honor/glory" or "protect the glory of the country" depending how you translate it? I can't recall a company so aggressively shutting down critical speech and opinions, and then say to Chinese consumers "we will protect your honor" while handing out disproportionally harsh sentences. I guess what I'm saying is that it's never been so visible before. People involved in gaming knows it's been happening for a while, but you couldn't point to really obvious, concrete examples. A few bits here which painted China positively, removing things China didn't want. But this, combined with the NBA mess, shows distinctly how China is influencing and pressuring American companies in ways the casual person can easily see. I don't remember anyone doing it as openly and clumsily as Blizzard - they must be really scared, and probably rightfully so, given how much of their player base is Chinese - but overall it's not a new thing at all. I also think it's less serious than the constant technology transfer through mandatory "joint ventures" between Chinese and western companies that are required to access the Chinese market, and that has been going on for years too. Those companies made their beds, now they gotta sleep in them.
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Post by Pounce de León on Oct 11, 2019 8:08:36 GMT
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