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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Jan 16, 2019 13:45:55 GMT
Dragon Age Inquisition has 3 large story based DLCs. The final release, Trespasser, is only playable at the end of the game, 2 years after the defeat of Corypheus. However Jaws of Hakkon and The Descent are available to play much earlier in the game, at your discretion.
Do you have a favourite time to play them? Before or after a main quest line, after a romance has been locked in, or perhaps after the main campaign is done as a way of filling in that 2 year gap before Trepasser?
Post your preferences below as a guide for those new to the game, or for those replaying, and if any of you have experienced differences in the content depending on when in the timeline you played it, please share!
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Post by Heimdall on Jan 16, 2019 17:27:32 GMT
I tend to play both after the main story, treating them as adventures my Inquisitor went on in between Corypheus’ defeat and the Exalted Council
In particular this works for Jaws of Haakon since the initial hook to that expansion is an archeological expedition without any connections to any of the present threats the Inquisition faces, or even the initial expectation of a major threat
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Post by gervaise21 on Jan 16, 2019 20:17:38 GMT
I tend to do the same as Heimdall. Whilst you could argue the Descent should be earlier in view of the fact that it is the Breach which unsettled the Titan, that could also be true of Corypheus re-opening the Breach at the end of the main game, particularly as that time round he was levitating entire mountains. As for Jaws of Hakkon there is no real connection at all with the main game, apart from it being the history of the former Inquisitor. It does fit far better in the time period between the end of the threat from Corypheus and the Exalted Council.
As for game mechanics, Corypheus is already ridiculously easy if you take him on after completing the majority of the content in the main game. Taking him on after playing the two DLCs would border on the absurd. Also there are some sections in Jaws of Hakkon, particularly some side-quests that are intended for a higher level player so might prove too challenging if you took them on too early.
Also, whilst it might make more sense to do the Descent before Jaws of Hakkon in terms of cause and effect - as I say you can argue the Breach at the end is what wakes the Titan - if you do them in the order in which they were released you do get a useful extra skill attached to the anchor in the Frostback Basin which comes in handy against the bolters of the Sha-Brytol. So I suppose that comes down to how challenging you want the fight against them to be.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Jan 17, 2019 4:11:02 GMT
I tend to play both after the main story, treating them as adventures my Inquisitor went on in between Corypheus’ defeat and the Exalted Council Yeah, I do that, too - partly for story reasons and partly because the DLC areas are covered in Tier 4 materials and tough fights.
The exceptions are the times Solas is an integral part of my party and I don't want to do those sections without him.
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Post by TabithaTH on Jan 17, 2019 11:18:11 GMT
Since Jaws of Hakkon has ties to Elvhen Lore, I recommend doing it sometime before the last battle at least once. I can see why it might not make sense RP wise, since there are more pressing matters.
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Post by Ieldra on Jan 17, 2019 11:59:28 GMT
I have basically two ways of doing this:
(1) Since both Jaws of Hakkon and Descent have difficult fights and I don't like difficult fights, when I do them is purely determined by equipment and leveling concerns. Which means I won't necessarily do either in consecutive sessions, but do certain parts early to get my hands on certain equipment, and leave the rest for very late in the game.
(2) I either play on a low difficulty setting to make the fights easier or cheat my way through them. In that case, I tend to play Descent early because I like it much less (including the lore btw) so that I have it out of the way, and Jaws of Hakkon late because that fits the story best.
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Post by melbella on Jan 18, 2019 1:49:24 GMT
I usually do Descent mid-game, about the time Red Water opens up (@ level 16). The fights are easier at levels 16-20 than if you wait until past level 20. Plus, I'm already at the Storm Coast. It's pretty easy to head-canon how devastating an interruption to the lyrium supply would be, regardless whether you recruited Templars or mages for the Breach, so making it a top priority isn't hard to justify.
JoH I almost always do after the main game since, as others have noted, it isn't really connected to the main story. The only exception is if I want to bring Solas with me. Recommended level for it is 20, and they really aren't kidding. The enemies start at level 20 so if you are underpowered, you'll get creamed. Descent enemies scale, so if you are lower level, so are they.
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Post by Ieldra on Jan 18, 2019 11:10:12 GMT
[...]The fights are easier at levels 16-20 than if you wait until past level 20.[...] Descent enemies scale, so if you are lower level, so are they. I didn't know that Descent enemies scale, and I suspect many others don't either. This might be something to include in the OP.
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Post by ArcadiaGrey on Jan 18, 2019 11:55:15 GMT
[...]The fights are easier at levels 16-20 than if you wait until past level 20.[...] Descent enemies scale, so if you are lower level, so are they. I didn't know that Descent enemies scale, and I suspect many others don't either. This might be something to include in the OP. The OP in this case is written as a question, so I'll leave Mel's comment as an answer to that. In guides where the OP is a collection of knowledge then feel free to tag me with titbits you think should be included 
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Post by themikefest on Jan 18, 2019 12:46:42 GMT
I started the Jaws dlc at level 9. It was tough, but doable. What I did was head straight for the ice giant. After a few tries, the giant laid dead. Then I went to talk with the leader of the clan. Doing that got me up to level 13.
I believe I've completed Descent at level 16.
Trespasser I've started at level 14. The reason why so low is because I used that character for a speedrun.
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Post by arvaarad on Jan 18, 2019 13:07:23 GMT
Whenever you do them, definitely do JoH (or at least the beginning of JoH) before Descent. Without getting too spoilery, something you get early on will make some difficult Descent fights much easier.
If you have a rogue with permastealth (Skirmisher or Shot from the Shadows), I believe you can technically get to that point in JoH without any combat, so it’s possible to snag at quite a low level.
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Post by Blaze on Jan 20, 2019 13:30:02 GMT
I started the Jaws dlc at level 9. It was tough, but doable. What I did was head straight for the ice giant. After a few tries, the giant laid dead. Then I went to talk with the leader of the clan. Doing that got me up to level 13. I believe I've completed Descent at level 16. Trespasser I've started at level 14. The reason why so low is because I used that character for a speedrun. on what difficulty? cause in nightmare it is quite challenging as level 25.
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Post by themikefest on Jan 20, 2019 19:20:37 GMT
I started the Jaws dlc at level 9. It was tough, but doable. What I did was head straight for the ice giant. After a few tries, the giant laid dead. Then I went to talk with the leader of the clan. Doing that got me up to level 13. I believe I've completed Descent at level 16. Trespasser I've started at level 14. The reason why so low is because I used that character for a speedrun. on what difficulty? cause in nightmare it is quite challenging as level 25. Those playthroughs I don't recall the difficulty. I do know the speedrun was normal since I haven't completed a speedrun on nightmare. I have completed all dlc's on nightmare. When I reach level 16, I acquire tier 3 materials to craft armor and weapons. At that time I usually play the dlc since I have the talents I want. The only dlc that gave me a challenge was the fight with Gurd Harofsen in Jaws of Hakkon.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jan 20, 2019 21:14:41 GMT
I tend to start the DLC's somewhere usually between the main quests Wicked Eyes Wicked Hearts and What Pride has Wrought Because usually by that time I'm usually around level 17/18 by then which for me is close enough to risk against the higher level enemies. I still find it challenging but it is very doable. I don't go too near the higher levelled rifts until I've dealt with some of the other quests in the area first though. Because I find those higher levelled rifts like the one that spits out Pride demons really tough so I usually wait until I'm at least into the 20's before I take them on. Usually when I'm at least a level that I feel I can take out any of the dragons in the main game such as the toughest dragon the Highland Ravager is when I do it.
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Post by phoray on Jan 20, 2019 23:05:04 GMT
Narratively prefer them after Cory. But I hate that the romances break post Cory so due to that, I would play Descent during base game so I could come back for nooky as wanted. Suffer romance-less through JoH post Cory, then fly to Trespasser for a resumption of normal stuff.
It just occurred to me that I've only ever played the DLC as one character out of 5 because I really have to be loving the romance and the character to be spending that much extra time with them.
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Post by coldwetn0se on Jan 21, 2019 20:49:53 GMT
I prefer to do them prior to end game (like getting "stuff"!  ). JoH I tend to RP that finding out about the first Inquisitor is important politically speaking (generally do it shortly after WEWH). I dig Melbella's RP reasoning on when to do Descent. Will do that next time. Usually I just do Descent closer to the end of the game. I do sometimes just open up JoH early (for example, right after Adamant), then wait on the story for later in the game. Enjoy having all companions available (looking at you Solas and possibly Blackwall), and getting da loot/mats from those DLC's. I like "stuff". 
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I like playing JOH after the main story with a Solas romance because of the lore, the statues that remind her of the place Solas took her to, and a certain line from Ameridan to her at the end.
I play Descent right after JOH and then head right into Trespasser.
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Post by michaeln7 on Jan 27, 2019 18:13:16 GMT
I tend to do as much as I can before losing Haven, so the high-level stuff in the Descent or Jaws doesn't present impossible challenges.
I do Descent intermittently with the base game. Jaws I do after defeating Corypheus, it makes more sense that way.
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Post by Beerfish on May 9, 2019 18:10:44 GMT
Both of those dlcs kicked my ass and made me cry like a school girl about the 1st 4 times I tried them.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on May 13, 2019 13:15:14 GMT
Both of those dlcs kicked my ass and made me cry like a school girl about the 1st 4 times I tried them. I guess yo uweren' tlevelled up high enough themn. 
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 4, 2021 13:56:50 GMT
I tend to do as much as I can before losing Haven, so the high-level stuff in the Descent or Jaws doesn't present impossible challenges. I do Descent intermittently with the base game. Jaws I do after defeating Corypheus, it makes more sense that way. I tend to alternate between Descent and UJaws really lik edo a section of Jaws then follow it up with a section of Descent.
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Post by Noxluxe on Mar 20, 2022 0:15:45 GMT
I usually do Descent mid-game, about the time Red Water opens up (@ level 16). The fights are easier at levels 16-20 than if you wait until past level 20. Plus, I'm already at the Storm Coast. It's pretty easy to head-canon how devastating an interruption to the lyrium supply would be, regardless whether you recruited Templars or mages for the Breach, so making it a top priority isn't hard to justify. JoH I almost always do after the main game since, as others have noted, it isn't really connected to the main story. The only exception is if I want to bring Solas with me. Recommended level for it is 20, and they really aren't kidding. The enemies start at level 20 so if you are underpowered, you'll get creamed. Descent enemies scale, so if you are lower level, so are they. I usually go online and check out people's reasonings for doing things in various orders, and just copy whatever method sounds like it makes the most sense and makes the overall game experience seem most consistent and fun. -snip-
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