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Post by docsteely on Sept 12, 2016 2:15:16 GMT
Football game was going to shit in the first half. Loaded up the PS3 with Silver toasters on Glacier with Krolord. All melee, not a single shot fired, 17 minutes later, 10ws. Went and watched the best comeback of the week. GO CHIEFS! Glacier Hazard vs toasters with the Krolord is my number 1 choice for soloing silver. I find it relaxing !
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Post by Dragonous on Sept 12, 2016 3:51:40 GMT
Decided to attempt a U/U/Gold with my trusty Havoc since no one was joining my lobby. To this day I've never successfully completed a Gold solo, either because it was a pug and someone joined 30 seconds from extraction or because I died/got sync killed horribly. That Lone Wolf banner is mighty tempting though... Oh ffuuuuuu--- First couple of waves aren't too bad. Then I get this. By some miracle (by which I mean copious stim packs) I finish the upload only 1 medigel/missile down. Wave 4 pretty easy. Ravagers go down in 3-4 shots and Brutes aren't much tougher. The only real annoyance is Cannibal spam. Time for Wave 5... Ugh. After meticulously picking off all the other mobs I finally manage to down the dreaded Banshee duo in relative peace. Wave 6. By some stroke of luck I get pizza delivery. Not too hard, though with the second object the sticky terrain kept me from running it through the last third of of the distance. Many Ravager shots were fired into my poor Havoc's exposed posterior before I made it to the safety of the extraction area. For Wave 7 I repeated my strategy of running around like a headless chicken spraying Wraith fire into everything that moves while desperately avoiding any possibility of contact with the dreaded Banshee magnet fingers. Wave 8 is much the same. Finally, I'm down to what looks like a Brute, a Ravager, and of course a pair of Banshees. Let me just pick up some ammo and--- ಠ_ಠ ;Д; Well, there's always next time I guess.......
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Post by Smehur on Sept 12, 2016 8:29:38 GMT
Happened to me once on wave 9 of an otherwise fabulous solo, and not even because the servers derped, but because some smartass disconnected the router in the other room. I cried. Condolences.
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Post by docsteely on Sept 12, 2016 12:39:44 GMT
Decided to attempt a U/U/Gold with my trusty Havoc since no one was joining my lobby. To this day I've never successfully completed a Gold solo, either because it was a pug and someone joined 30 seconds from extraction or because I died/got sync killed horribly. That Lone Wolf banner is mighty tempting though... ಠ_ಠ . Happened to me once on wave 9 of an otherwise fabulous solo, and not even because the servers derped, but because some smartass disconnected the router in the other room. I cried. Condolences. I feel for both of you. One of my silver solos ended with a broken keyboard when I got disconnected on the extraction wave...
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Post by Clyde on Sept 12, 2016 12:43:42 GMT
Decided to attempt a U/U/Gold with my trusty Havoc since no one was joining my lobby. To this day I've never successfully completed a Gold solo, either because it was a pug and someone joined 30 seconds from extraction or because I died/got sync killed horribly. That Lone Wolf banner is mighty tempting though... ಠ_ಠ . Happened to me once on wave 9 of an otherwise fabulous solo, and not even because the servers derped, but because some smartass disconnected the router in the other room. I cried. Condolences. I feel for both of you. One of my silver solos ended with a broken keyboard when I got disconnected on the extraction wave... I got dc'd on a Drell Vanguard solo wave 9, where I hadn't died yet. I reconcile by telling myself I was gonna get devices wave 10 anyway... Dragonous I hope you get the next one.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 12, 2016 12:57:04 GMT
Decided to attempt a U/U/Gold with my trusty Havoc since no one was joining my lobby. To this day I've never successfully completed a Gold solo, either because it was a pug and someone joined 30 seconds from extraction or because I died/got sync killed horribly. That Lone Wolf banner is mighty tempting though... Oh ffuuuuuu--- First couple of waves aren't too bad. Then I get this. By some miracle (by which I mean copious stim packs) I finish the upload only 1 medigel/missile down. Wave 4 pretty easy. Ravagers go down in 3-4 shots and Brutes aren't much tougher. The only real annoyance is Cannibal spam. Time for Wave 5... Ugh. After meticulously picking off all the other mobs I finally manage to down the dreaded Banshee duo in relative peace. Wave 6. By some stroke of luck I get pizza delivery. Not too hard, though with the second object the sticky terrain kept me from running it through the last third of of the distance. Many Ravager shots were fired into my poor Havoc's exposed posterior before I made it to the safety of the extraction area. For Wave 7 I repeated my strategy of running around like a headless chicken spraying Wraith fire into everything that moves while desperately avoiding any possibility of contact with the dreaded Banshee magnet fingers. Wave 8 is much the same. Finally, I'm down to what looks like a Brute, a Ravager, and of course a pair of Banshees. Let me just pick up some ammo and--- ಠ_ಠ ;Д; Well, there's always next time I guess....... Allow me to commend you for authoring such a heartfelt post despite the hideous sabotage the servers have wrought on you. I would give you 10 likes if possible!
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Post by Darth Dennis on Sept 12, 2016 20:18:23 GMT
For future reference, if you want, you can do this: Video courtesy of our very own Techno Turian.
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Post by Dragonous on Sept 12, 2016 21:38:27 GMT
Allow me to commend you for authoring such a heartfelt post despite the hideous sabotage the servers have wrought on you. I would give you 10 likes if possible! Thank you! After all the positive feedback I received here I felt compelled to try again today. Link to Imgur Album due to size.
Long story short: Make sure to check out the album first if you don't want to be spoiled!
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Post by Terminator Force on Sept 13, 2016 14:47:06 GMT
What a terrible start to my otherwise great morning.
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Post by docsteely on Sept 22, 2016 4:51:01 GMT
Overconfidence
Sometimes this game reminds me of real life. I'll start by saying I've played by now with good players, I've played with very good players, some of them I'd even call experts. I know now enough to say I am what I'd call a decent player. I will not let down my team and in a pinch I might be able to carry through gold, perhaps through platinum. But do not expect me to do wonders.
Now back to my title. I decided to complete again my solo challenge on PS3, so I start by trying my latest beloved: the Hinf/Claymore. I fire up bronze U/U. What can the game throw at me that I cannot do? I am a big boy. I know to reload cancel, I know where to expect the spawns to appear or to reappear (especially on solos), I know wave composition etc. What's the worst that can happen?
Well it's London/Reapers. OK, not too bad. I've 10 headshots by the end of w2, everything is going fine; but it's devices on w3 (on London it is a nightmare) and I end up with less a Gel and one missile. OK, I can live through that.
Comes w6, it's devices again. I get three of them in the intersection (the middle) where you're mostly unprotected and the ennemy can get to you very quick. So I finish up with only one missile left. But I still don't get the message...
W7 - 20 headshots, nice; w8 and w9 - no problem. Comes w10 and you've probably already guessed, it's again devices. The first two aren't so bad, I finish them after I kite them around, but the third is in the middle, so there goes my last missile; comes the fourth it's near the shop and I'm left with 30s. I run to it and start it, but a Ravager on the far stairs calmly downs me... I gel, but it's already late as the last brute is near me and I am out of time...
The morals of the story? In this game (as in real life) do not take anything for granted; you never know what shit it may throw at you.
P.S. Useles to say, next one was Dagger/Reapers and I did it flawlessly...
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Post by AIS-Sona_v7 on Sept 22, 2016 12:55:04 GMT
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 22, 2016 13:42:54 GMT
Carries, many waves by me and one wave by the two pugs. Dagger/Derperus/Silver; I was AIU specced for melee as usual. I bailed the pugs out of many bad situations until wave 10 escort across the courtyard - somehow I got synched from behind by an Atlas of all things (and I wasn't karate kicking this one). Well, good for these two pugs (an okay Valkyrie and a very inexperienced HFSol); they completed the escort and managed to kill the remaining two Atlases. Unfortunately, my mic wasn't hooked up and I had not booted the console, so I couldn't tell them not to camp the LZ. So they did exactly that. I was able to sneak into the back porch LZ under cloak and revive one of them before retreating off to the far corner with the ammo box, hoping they would follow me. They did not. So when 15 seconds came rolling around, I slapped on noob matrix, cloaked, and found an LZ that looked like an Atlas truck stop with lots of Phantoms hanging out waiting for them to get off shift. At 0:04 my cloak ran out, they all started shooting, I leapt into the LZ, fired off an ops pack, and we extracted. I gotta tell you all I am still not all that comfortable carrying, even on Silver. I guess it's the knowledge that players who are below my level - or FAR above it - are watching me and evaluating my performance. I feel like I'm gonna get a ticket in the mail from a red light camera EDIT: This was supposed to go in the Last Pug in One Word thread. But I'm too lazy/ADD to move it
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Post by Clyde on Sept 22, 2016 14:46:55 GMT
Just did AIU/Reegar as a guide for a friend. Got devices on 6 & 10 and it took forever kiting Geth around, but at least I got 10 WS.
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Post by SaikyoMcRyu on Sept 22, 2016 15:00:43 GMT
A couple of Silver solos trying to farm Guardians. Defeated by aggro from Mrs. Saikyo
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Post by docsteely on Sept 22, 2016 16:57:44 GMT
A couple of Silver solos trying to farm Guardians. Defeated by aggro from Mrs. Saikyo It's always the Final Boss that will get you!
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Post by stephenw32768 on Sept 22, 2016 21:41:40 GMT
I had some ridiculous fun this evening doing a lolbronze solo as Spitfire volus, purely for the lulz. White/Reapers; escort, hack (which I failed to glitch because he moves so slowly, so had to do in bits), escort. Took about half an hour (which I'd like to say was due to the ridiculous setup, but is in fact about normal for me...) It's a pretty funny setup, though I wouldn't take it anywhere near a public game.
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Post by Darth Dennis on Sept 23, 2016 6:18:02 GMT
I had some ridiculous fun this evening doing a lolbronze solo as Spitfire volus, purely for the lulz. White/Reapers; escort, hack (which I failed to glitch because he moves so slowly, so had to do in bits), escort. Took about half an hour (which I'd like to say was due to the ridiculous setup, but is in fact about normal for me...) It's a pretty funny setup, though I wouldn't take it anywhere near a public game. And I thought the Widow Volus was strange.
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Post by AIS-Sona_v7 on Sept 23, 2016 7:48:00 GMT
Tried to solo GOLD for the first time, this is about as good as the first objective wave has gone for me...
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Post by docsteely on Sept 23, 2016 15:36:59 GMT
Easy does it...
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Post by dzejkob on Sept 23, 2016 17:07:31 GMT
''huehuehuehue''
So silver with Geth juggernaut to finish off hex shield points, got bugs on Giant, so was in the entry of the building and just spamming it, those guys just kept on walking in it or i kept respawning it and getting those pesky bugs staggered. Finished with 10 waves survived (but with half of my op packs used)
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Post by Clyde on Sept 23, 2016 17:24:42 GMT
Down to 8 characters I haven't soloed with, tried to make it 7 by doing Novaguard last night. Had 5 WS and got targets on 3 & 6. Went after the phantom, got grabbed out of midair Nova and synched.
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Post by docsteely on Sept 23, 2016 19:50:58 GMT
Down to 8 characters I haven't soloed with, tried to make it 7 by doing Novaguard last night. Had 5 WS and got targets on 3 & 6. Went after the phantom, got grabbed out of midair Nova and synched. ME3 = Long live space magic...
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Post by Clyde on Sept 23, 2016 20:38:28 GMT
Down to 8 characters I haven't soloed with, tried to make it 7 by doing Novaguard last night. Had 5 WS and got targets on 3 & 6. Went after the phantom, got grabbed out of midair Nova and synched. ME3 = Long live space magic... I'll have my revenge.
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Post by docsteely on Sept 24, 2016 3:58:31 GMT
I was going for flawless, but wave 10 got targets. Anyhow that was another Solo Mastery on the road to 100.
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Post by mrrated82 on Sept 26, 2016 17:31:20 GMT
Solo Gold. Batarian Brawler with Wraith. Vs. Reapers on Vancouver. 10 waves survived medal was pretty sweet I wont lie. Was thinking of taking the Raider instead of the Wraith. Might I be better of taking Warp's recharge evolution for this due to heavier weapon. Still be priming and debuffing and murdering. Surely?!
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