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Post by Iddy on May 22, 2020 19:59:46 GMT
Isn't DA2 the game that is told from Varric's pov? Well, yes?  After all he tells the story to Cassandra, first his epic book version which she interrupts and insists he tells the real version to which he asks her; Varric: you're not worried I'll just make it up as I go? Cassandra: not at all
if you'll notice, after she says this he smirks, saying "you'll need to know the whole story" however this is where we as players come in, we tell the "whole story" but no one said it's the real story
which is what I meant with my post, Varric tells it to Cassandra, we as players create the story he later embellishes...but even we as the player don't know the real story and I think that's the point of playing a historical figure (which is what Hawke technically is by the time Cass interrogates Varric), only the people who were there know the real deal in time details become muddled, such as quotes said by people...strange habits they might've had, you name it  And as Cassandra tells you in DAI, heroic tales get more and more ridiculous each time they're told. At this point, they're probably saying that Hawke tore the Arishok's horns off with his bare hands and then stabbed him with them.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 22, 2020 20:12:22 GMT
And as Cassandra tells you in DAI, heroic tales get more and more ridiculous each time they're told. At this point, they're probably saying that Hawke tore the Arishok's horns off with his bare hands and then stabbed him with them. Yeah...remember how in Act 3 there's some guys at the Hanged Man saying Hawke uses the Arishok's skull as a gravy boat and sleeps on a bed made of dragon bones? 
also in Witch Hunt some apprentices say the Warden slept with "a lady pirate and a pair of nugs" among other things, even if your Warden was completly straight or a-sexual (and the Warden is still alive by that point  )
kinda makes me both curious and worried what they'll tell of the Inquisitor in later years and if they'll receive the same "cleaned" version treatment that Ameridan got (if they were non-human or non believers or had a different religion altogether) 
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 23, 2020 4:30:15 GMT
It appears as if you got that backwards. I accept the fact that Hawke's cameo in DAI is flawed, up to the point that a mage Hawke might come across as an utter hypocrite. That is not my Hawke in any case, and it makes me somewhat afraid of how a writer could mess up a possible appearance of the Inquisitor in DA4, especially since there are far more things to mess up. Just take the whole faith question. Otherwise, it is just a case of #NotMyHawke. Well, in case of Shepard, I'm doing that ever since I played ME2 for the very first time. Besides, ME2's whole premise would support that, regardless of what a husk-eyed chainsmoker and his favourite Mary Sue would claim about their space magic.  My question is specifically about the scenario where the player accepts that's their Hawke. And that is all I want to discuss. Well, it was my way of saying that I don't agree with that premise at all. Besides, I got the impression that you like to troll a bit at times, so back I trolled. I'd say another valid question would be "Who would put that DAI Hawke over their own version anyway?"  I'd like to (again) point out it's Varric telling a story...so he'd likely change certain aspects about Hawke, both in looks and abilities I actually wouldn't put it past him to change up some of Hawke's standpoints on things like blood magic as well only for Hawke to be all "...I never said that" when they finally read the book and I don't see it as being hypocritical for Hawke to be against blood magic and still be with Merrill it just means this particular Hawke (likely) looked past Merrill's abilities and saw her for who she is beneath just as Fenris does with a mage Hawke or Bethany, he looks past them being a mage and sees Hawke/Bethany for who they are mage Hawke: [to Fenris] blaming magic isn't the answer Fenris: for every mage such as you, there's a dozen more out there to weak to responsibly handle their powers. Them I fear, as should you, as should anyone and as I said a while back in a different thread, if we really care to split hairs every Bioware protagonist should remain single because (nearly) every LI has issues of one shape or another  Oh Varric... well, given what I had to hear when siding with Meredith once for achievement reasons, I got the impression that he's not as neutral on the issue as it might appear at first. If one goes to support the circle mages, he questions "why we help dangerous people to run amok" (and of course missing that the one "running amok" at this point is Meredith), while on the other side, he says something about "defending our lifestyle/home/innocents". Uhm, no Master Tethras, defending innocents by murdering innocents isn't that great on the moral record. And for the lifestyle part, well the Act III situation is pretty shitty. Who would defend that? Besides making no sense for mage Hawke, as Meredith is itchin' for an excuse to kill some robes. My mention about possible hypocrisy aims more that the fact that Hawke could be a Blood Mage. Of course, it could also been a case of "could have been", but all these are just one variation of many. I had purple!Hawke in these scenes, so anything said could just have been seen as a kind of trolling anyway, but for the more serious personalities... I don't know if it reaches Sera-style levels of repeating... is harrassment the right word?  I mean... why not ranting about demon summoning instead? That's something that Hawke herself cannot do in DA2. Not even Merrill really does that, as she contacts one already around at Sundermount, and she's got no intent of releasing it. Isn't DA2 the game that is told from Varric's pov? Well, yes? After all he tells the story to Cassandra, first his epic book version which she interrupts and insists he tells the real version to which he asks her; Varric: you're not worried I'll just make it up as I go? Cassandra: not at all if you'll notice, after she says this he smirks, saying "you'll need to know the whole story" however this is where we as players come in, we tell the "whole story" but no one said it's the real story which is what I meant with my post, Varric tells it to Cassandra, we as players create the story he later embellishes...but even we as the player don't know the real story and I think that's the point of playing a historical figure (which is what Hawke technically is by the time Cass interrogates Varric), only the people who were there know the real deal in time details become muddled, such as quotes said by people...strange habits they might've had, you name it That seems backwards. I mean, do you want to say that "our" Hawkes as we played them are just to be seen as Varric's interpretations and that cameo is the "more real" thing? I might got this wrong, but I would not agree with it at all. I do not consider myself a "good roleplayer" (by whatever metric one might use), but I'm not fond of my decisions being ignored. And as Cassandra tells you in DAI, heroic tales get more and more ridiculous each time they're told. At this point, they're probably saying that Hawke tore the Arishok's horns off with his bare hands and then stabbed him with them. Ah, now I know why my Inquisitor (the elven one, not Adaar ) wanted to rip the Viddasala's horns out all the time. And then her bald wolf of an ex robbed her of that fun as well. She did not even got a chance to shatter the pretty statue into a shower of pebbles...  And as Cassandra tells you in DAI, heroic tales get more and more ridiculous each time they're told. At this point, they're probably saying that Hawke tore the Arishok's horns off with his bare hands and then stabbed him with them. Yeah...remember how in Act 3 there's some guys at the Hanged Man saying Hawke uses the Arishok's skull as a gravy boat and sleeps on a bed made of dragon bones?  also in Witch Hunt some apprentices say the Warden slept with "a lady pirate and a pair of nugs" among other things, even if your Warden was completly straight or a-sexual (and the Warden is still alive by that point ) Some years later, someone might claim that purple!Hawke ate the Arishok, when it was actually the Mabari.  Dog usually spends a lot of time nibbling on the guy during the duel. ... and I never knew about that "specific arrangement" the Pearl offered, and after I went on the wiki and found out (besides Isabela being a specialisation trainer, as I completely ignored her beforehand), I could not be assed to ask for it. Though the way how she bids "farewell" to these buffoons made it into my everyday repository of quotes. The way she pronounces "Idioten!" in the translated version has a certain something. Oh, and it helps that her German VA in DAO also did EDI in ME2/3, Visas Marr in KotOR II and the human female sultry soundset for the Warden. Though both the Isabela and the Warden acting do sound more amused and sarcastic then sultry. Well I can live with that. kinda makes me both curious and worried what they'll tell of the Inquisitor in later years and if they'll receive the same "cleaned" version treatment that Ameridan got (if they were non-human or non believers or had a different religion altogether) Tell me, why I'm not very fond of andrastians again... 
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 23, 2020 9:53:19 GMT
1) Oh Varric... well, given what I had to hear when siding with Meredith once for achievement reasons, I got the impression that he's not as neutral on the issue as it might appear at first. If one goes to support the circle mages, he questions "why we help dangerous people to run amok" (and of course missing that the one "running amok" at this point is Meredith), while on the other side, he says something about "defending our lifestyle/home/innocents". Uhm, no Master Tethras, defending innocents by murdering innocents isn't that great on the moral record. And for the lifestyle part, well the Act III situation is pretty shitty. Who would defend that? Besides making no sense for mage Hawke, as Meredith is itchin' for an excuse to kill some robes. My mention about possible hypocrisy aims more that the fact that Hawke could be a Blood Mage. Of course, it could also been a case of "could have been", but all these are just one variation of many. I had purple!Hawke in these scenes, so anything said could just have been seen as a kind of trolling anyway, but for the more serious personalities... I don't know if it reaches Sera-style levels of repeating... is harrassment the right word? I mean... why not ranting about demon summoning instead? That's something that Hawke herself cannot do in DA2. Not even Merrill really does that, as she contacts one already around at Sundermount, and she's got no intent of releasing it. 2) That seems backwards. I mean, do you want to say that "our" Hawkes as we played them are just to be seen as Varric's interpretations and that cameo is the "more real" thing? I might got this wrong, but I would not agree with it at all. I do not consider myself a "good roleplayer" (by whatever metric one might use), but I'm not fond of my decisions being ignored. 3) Some years later, someone might claim that purple!Hawke ate the Arishok, when it was actually the Mabari. Dog usually spends a lot of time nibbling on the guy during the duel. ... and I never knew about that "specific arrangement" the Pearl offered, and after I went on the wiki and found out (besides Isabela being a specialisation trainer, as I completely ignored her beforehand), I could not be assed to ask for it. Though the way how she bids "farewell" to these buffoons made it into my everyday repository of quotes. The way she pronounces "Idioten!" in the translated version has a certain something. Oh, and it helps that her German VA in DAO also did EDI in ME2/3, Visas Marr in KotOR II and the human female sultry soundset for the Warden. Though both the Isabela and the Warden acting do sound more amused and sarcastic then sultry. Well I can live with that. 4) Tell me, why I'm not very fond of andrastians again... 1) It's also worth to point out that when you side with the mages in Inquisition his approval/disapproval depends on who you sided with in DA2
a Hawke who sided with the mages and if the Quizzy allies with the mages, Varric approves (disapproves if you conscript them)
if Hawke sided with the templars and if the Quizzy allies with the mages, Varric disapproves (approves if you conscript them) however if you go to the Templars...it becomes interesting allying with Templars gives approval, conscripting them doesn't yield approval/disapproval and this is regardless of who Hawke sided with during DA2 (I did this with my Qunari Quizzy who allied with the templars which had an import with a Hawke who sided with the mages)
so long story short, I do think Varric has a preference on the whole mage/templar debacle despite what he says and may claim.
2) well...sorta?  I do think both of them are the real version (both the ones we played and the cameo version), and I do agree with you about the whole "choice ignoring" thing.
After all, various things are ignored during Hawke's cameo. Such as (as you pointed out) Hawke's stance on blood magic. I mean, the Inquisitor can voice their opinion on the matter with Solas, but Hawke never really makes a reference toward it during their own game (you can do a minor one when meeting Merrill but it's never addressed again). Also unlike Inquisition, in DA2 Hawke's specialization is never really addressed aside from a few specific quests (such as a warrior Hawke specializing as a Templar being able to break Idunna's compulsion without the aid of a mage ally)
3) yeah me neither, generally I just have my Warden play cards with Isabela to learn the specialization, I can't really recall if any of my Wardens ever actually slept with her.
4) *pats back* there there here's hoping we can screw things up royally for the Andrastian faith in DA4 
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Post by Iddy on May 23, 2020 20:06:23 GMT
My question is specifically about the scenario where the player accepts that's their Hawke. And that is all I want to discuss. Well, it was my way of saying that I don't agree with that premise at all. Besides, I got the impression that you like to troll a bit at times, so back I trolled. I'd say another valid question would be "Who would put that DAI Hawke over their own version anyway?" "I don't like it, so it is trolling". Gotcha. As for the rest, it's as I explained earlier: I don't care.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 23, 2020 20:38:16 GMT
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 24, 2020 19:31:45 GMT
LadyofNemesis I have some sort of deja-vu regarding the Merrill tarot you linked. I suspect it could be due to being similar to Fiona's or that I just have seen it on deviantart before.  1) Yes, I've checked that and you're spot on. But since he does seem to crack more (sometimes crude) jokes about "magic mumbo-jumbo" than Isabela (who's the only "truly neutral" one in DA2 apparently), I should not wonder. 2) Well, I guess this is some point for the future then; adressing the implications about more or less "problematic" abilites. It's not just magic anyway, templar abilites might have as much of an (un)fortunate effect, even if it is just because the addiction issue. Now you got me a question... what in that scene with Idunna if Hawke is neither a mage nor has templar abilities nor has a Anders/Bethany/Merrill around. Never tried that. 3) I never had a character who would "sleep around" at all. Usually just go for one LI (or none at all) and that's it. Bioware romance are kinda buggy at times, and sleeping around does not help with that. 4) Oh, thank you, I needed that. Besides, is it the first time you are using that smilie? Hanako Ikezawa You asked for a thread title quote, but that was years ago. Do you still feel like editing the title? What about "I miss it sometimes, things being certain."? A pretty good counterpart to Flemythal's/Morrigan's comments about change.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 24, 2020 20:06:17 GMT
LadyofNemesis I have some sort of deja-vu regarding the Merrill tarot you linked. I suspect it could be due to being similar to Fiona's or that I just have seen it on deviantart before. 1) Yes, I've checked that and you're spot on. But since he does seem to crack more (sometimes crude) jokes about "magic mumbo-jumbo" than Isabela (who's the only "truly neutral" one in DA2 apparently), I should not wonder. 2) Well, I guess this is some point for the future then; adressing the implications about more or less "problematic" abilites. It's not just magic anyway, templar abilites might have as much of an (un)fortunate effect, even if it is just because the addiction issue. Now you got me a question... what in that scene with Idunna if Hawke is neither a mage nor has templar abilities nor has a Anders/Bethany/Merrill around. Never tried that. 3) I never had a character who would "sleep around" at all. Usually just go for one LI (or none at all) and that's it. Bioware romance are kinda buggy at times, and sleeping around does not help with that. 4) Oh, thank you, I needed that. Besides, is it the first time you are using that smilie? possibly
1) Isabela is probably true neutral as you say, however, I do think she has some chaotic tendencies now and then (as shown when she runs of with the tome in order to safe herself. Only if your friendship/rivalry is high enough does she return) one of my favorite party banters between her and Fenris sums her up perfectly; I also love her "They don't know me, I know me" quote 
2) I've done that scene with a rogue Hawke once who didn't have a mage in the party, Hawke can use their willpower to shake free of the compulsion which doesn't have anything to do with the actual willpower stat. If Hawke does that however, they instantly kill Idunna without the possibility to question her 3) I once had a Hawke who more or less accidentally triggered Anders' romance while she was romancing Fenris. Thankfully when he came to the mansion she was able to turn him down...it wasn't pretty. 
4) you're welcome. And yes... generally I use this one > 
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 24, 2020 22:17:52 GMT
Hanako Ikezawa You asked for a thread title quote, but that was years ago. Do you still feel like editing the title? What about "I miss it sometimes, things being certain."? A pretty good counterpart to Flemythal's/Morrigan's comments about change.
When does she say that? I don't recall hearing that line.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 24, 2020 23:32:33 GMT
LadyofNemesis 1) She's pretty CN for sure. I was more thinking the only truly neutral opinion on the mage-templar issue. She doesn't really favour a side, she applies her general personal views to the issues, as that banter you quoted shows. (I do not hold Merrill's stance against her anyway... she has working survival instincts, regardless what some people might think.)
2) Ah, I see. Well, she usually does not survive encounters with my Hawke anyway. No one messes with my head. Besides, messing with the head of a Purple!Hawke might backfire horribly anyway. *mwahahahaha* 3) *Throwing something heavy*? 4) Do I have a bad influence? Hanako Ikezawa It is from an Act 3 banter with Anders (video). Merrill: You really believe don't you? Anders: What are you talking about? Merrill: Believing. You do, I can tell, in freedom, in mages, in good spirits and bad templars. With more fire than the sun. Anders: And your point is? Merrill: I miss it sometimes, things being certain. Anders: Some things are certain. Merrill: Not anymore.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 25, 2020 4:28:57 GMT
Hanako Ikezawa It is from an Act 3 banter with Anders (video). Merrill: You really believe don't you? Anders: What are you talking about? Merrill: Believing. You do, I can tell, in freedom, in mages, in good spirits and bad templars. With more fire than the sun. Anders: And your point is? Merrill: I miss it sometimes, things being certain. Anders: Some things are certain. Merrill: Not anymore. Ah, that explains it. I never have Anders with Merrill since he's nothing but awful to her.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 25, 2020 7:50:00 GMT
LadyofNemesis 1) She's pretty CN for sure. I was more thinking the only truly neutral opinion on the mage-templar issue. She doesn't really favour a side, she applies her general personal views to the issues, as that banter you quoted shows. (I do not hold Merrill's stance against her anyway... she has working survival instincts, regardless what some people might think.)
2) Ah, I see. Well, she usually does not survive encounters with my Hawke anyway. No one messes with my head. Besides, messing with the head of a Purple!Hawke might backfire horribly anyway. *mwahahahaha* 3) *Throwing something heavy*? 4) Do I have a bad influence? 1) mhm, true I mean, everyone else has a preference, some even with one you might not expect (for example, Carver prefers that Hawke sides with the mages, even if he's a templar)
2) now I'm imagining a scene from an anime where one character enters the mind of another only to face the inner self of the other character link
3) books may or may not have been thrown 
4) hm...maybe?
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Post by Highwayman667 on May 25, 2020 15:34:40 GMT
And as Cassandra tells you in DAI, heroic tales get more and more ridiculous each time they're told. At this point, they're probably saying that Hawke tore the Arishok's horns off with his bare hands and then stabbed him with them. Varric is collecting royalties as we speak
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 26, 2020 1:41:34 GMT
LadyofNemesis 1) Is there a way for templar!Carver to show up before the finale? I only got him opposing Meredith in the end, alongside Cullen essentially. I know that warden!Carver is encountered earlier and prefers as you said. 2) Yeah, that is a potentially rather dangerous approach... Is that the Bakura from YuGiOh? I did watch some of that show (an early arc concerning Pegasus and his tournament shenanigans), but do not remember much. But since Bakura carried one of those ancient artifacts... 3) Hawke: *opens book* Hawke: "Ugh, Anders's manifest. Again." Hawke: *throws book including manifest at Anders* Fenris: "Hey, that was on my reading list! The book I mean, not the manifest." Hawke, purple: "Don't worry. I still got a whole shelf of volumes on Tevinter history. Never opened any of them."  Fenris:  4) I guess this works both ways. Besides, always glad to help. Ah, that explains it. I never have Anders with Merrill since he's nothing but awful to her. I suspected that. Sometimes, she wins the snapping contests he starts, and I think this is one, basically, besides "We have our own stories, no need to borrow yours." So I guess it is a nope.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 26, 2020 2:13:54 GMT
Ah, that explains it. I never have Anders with Merrill since he's nothing but awful to her. I suspected that. Sometimes, she wins the snapping contests he starts, and I think this is one, basically, besides "We have our own stories, no need to borrow yours." So I guess it is a nope. You guess what is a nope? If you mean the line for the title, I’ve been so busy I haven’t even really thought about it since you mentioned it.  |
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 26, 2020 4:34:20 GMT
I suspected that. Sometimes, she wins the snapping contests he starts, and I think this is one, basically, besides "We have our own stories, no need to borrow yours." So I guess it is a nope. You guess what is a nope? If you mean the line for the title, I’ve been so busy I haven’t even really thought about it since you mentioned it.  Yes I thought so because Anders, but no offense intended.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 26, 2020 9:07:34 GMT
LadyofNemesis 1) Is there a way for templar!Carver to show up before the finale? I only got him opposing Meredith in the end, alongside Cullen essentially. I know that warden!Carver is encountered earlier and prefers as you said. 2) Yeah, that is a potentially rather dangerous approach... Is that the Bakura from YuGiOh? I did watch some of that show (an early arc concerning Pegasus and his tournament shenanigans), but do not remember much. But since Bakura carried one of those ancient artifacts... 3) Hawke: *opens book* Hawke: "Ugh, Anders's manifest. Again." Hawke: *throws book including manifest at Anders* Fenris: "Hey, that was on my reading list! The book I mean, not the manifest." Hawke, purple: "Don't worry. I still got a whole shelf of volumes on Tevinter history. Never opened any of them." Fenris: 4) I guess this works both ways. Besides, always glad to help. 1) He shows up during the end of Act 2 alongside Meredith after meeting Orsino (the same scene where you'd meet circle!Bethany) but Carver will always be on the side of the templars and can't be persuaded to join a Hawke who sides with the mages actually, I understand he chews you out if you decide to side with the templars, which is kinda ironic since he's a templar himself I've no idea how that scene would turn out since in my games Carver is always a Warden
2) nah, it's from Naruto...first act Sakura vs. Ino
(I've read the entire manga (700 chapters divided in 72 volumes) but I'm not going to bother with the sequel )
3) I still think the funniest reference with books is Dorian in the library browsing books and being all "fifty shades of...oh for the love of, who reads this drivel? *tosses book* "
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 26, 2020 20:08:38 GMT
1) Ah that point, yes. I just remember Templar!Carver for being bitchy about Hawke showing up at all... Well, that is what I get for not bringing him to the Deep Roads. To be honest, during my first ever playthrough, he died as I did not knew about Anders and the Warden stuff. 2) Argh, Sakura, not Bakura. I'm either too dumb to read properly, or just quickly jumping to the stuff I knew, which is not a lot in terms of anime/manga. 3) When does he say that? Could not find it. I just remember that other one: "All these 'gifts' to the Inquisition and the best they can do is the Malefica Imperio? Bah, trite propaganda. But if you want twenty volumes on whether Divine Galatea took a shit on Sunday, this is evidently the place to find it." *rofl* |
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 26, 2020 20:41:13 GMT
1) Ah that point, yes. I just remember Templar!Carver for being bitchy about Hawke showing up at all... Well, that is what I get for not bringing him to the Deep Roads. To be honest, during my first ever playthrough, he died as I did not knew about Anders and the Warden stuff. 2) Argh, Sakura, not Bakura. I'm either too dumb to read properly, or just quickly jumping to the stuff I knew, which is not a lot in terms of anime/manga. 3) When does he say that? Could not find it. I just remember that other one: "All these 'gifts' to the Inquisition and the best they can do is the Malefica Imperio? Bah, trite propaganda. But if you want twenty volumes on whether Divine Galatea took a shit on Sunday, this is evidently the place to find it." *rofl* 1) Meh, Circle!Bethany can also be a bit salty during that scene...though less salty then when she's a Warden
2) it's alright
3) I've no idea...I found it on YouTube somewhere though atm. all I can find is this gif  Apparently Thedas has it's own equivalent in the form of "Fifty Shades of Grey Warden"
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 26, 2020 22:03:00 GMT
2) *Phew* 3) Hm, I guess someone like that scene and used it. DAI characters should not make RL references, right? Ok, Varric does use stuff like "geez", a Jesus reference, but at least my German version replaced this with various versions of Andraste's/Maker's bodyparts. Though "Fifty Shades of Grey Warden" might be some tale about their alleged sexual prowess. "Did I miss something dirty?" *Merrill voice* At least they do not need to worry much about pregnancy. I was kinda surprised when Alistair, during my first playthrough approached my female Amell(!) Warden for an embarrassing talk about heirs. Don't know if my game messed something up, as I never had Amell flirt with him, nor was she eligible for marriage. |
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Post by Quickpaw on May 27, 2020 3:09:23 GMT
1) Meh, Circle!Bethany can also be a bit salty during that scene...though less salty then when she's a Warden
2) it's alright
3) I've no idea...I found it on YouTube somewhere though atm. all I can find is this gif Apparently Thedas has it's own equivalent in the form of "Fifty Shades of Grey Warden" Reasonably certain that he doesn't actually say that in game. "For God's sake" is a bit of a giveaway, as the phrase for Thedosians-Andrastians specifically- would be "For Maker's sake" or somesuch.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 27, 2020 17:19:41 GMT
Reasonably certain that he doesn't actually say that in game. "For God's sake" is a bit of a giveaway, as the phrase for Thedosians-Andrastians specifically- would be "For Maker's sake" or somesuch. Yeah as I said, I'm not sure it's actually in game it does look like the same scene where he complains about the books about the Divine going to the toilet it's likely just a fan creation, but it sure looks funny but as you say...it should be "Maker's balls" or something similar
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 27, 2020 17:22:43 GMT
You guess what is a nope? If you mean the line for the title, I’ve been so busy I haven’t even really thought about it since you mentioned it. Yes I thought so because Anders, but no offense intended.  I wouldn't mind it being from an Anders debate, simply because she wins those. I didn't go with it though since while good it didn't seem Merrill-specific enough, so I went with the one I put. If she shows up in DA4 with that attitude then I might change it.
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Post by cloud9 on Jun 5, 2020 13:11:04 GMT
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After all he tells the story to Cassandra, first his epic book version which she interrupts and insists he tells the real version
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I mean... why not ranting about demon summoning instead? That's something that Hawke herself cannot do in DA2. Not even Merrill really does that, as she contacts one already around at Sundermount, and she's got no intent of releasing it.
Dog usually spends a lot of time nibbling on the guy during the duel.
