Elfen Lied
N3
Fatebinder
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 372 Likes: 465
inherit
Fatebinder
1384
0
465
Elfen Lied
372
Sept 1, 2016 14:36:41 GMT
September 2016
elfenlied
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Elfen Lied on Feb 18, 2019 17:16:49 GMT
Created by a Russian indie developer this game has been already called "The spiritual successor of Fallout 1 & 2".
ATOM RPG was released some weeks ago both on GOG and Steam and so far the reception has been very good , with a large majority of positive reviews.
I'm going to buy it very soon, probably once I'll be done with my current game.
|
|
inherit
679
0
3,540
CHRrOME
2,805
August 2016
chrrome
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect Andromeda
666
112 ish
|
Post by CHRrOME on Feb 18, 2019 17:22:07 GMT
I had my eye on this one, back when it was in early access. It looks like a Russian version of the original FOs or Wasteland even.
However I remember seeing many negative reviews on Steam, and I've been wary ever since. People claim it has too many bugs, and game breaking stuff which obscure what otherwise is a very nice game.
|
|
Elfen Lied
N3
Fatebinder
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 372 Likes: 465
inherit
Fatebinder
1384
0
465
Elfen Lied
372
Sept 1, 2016 14:36:41 GMT
September 2016
elfenlied
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Elfen Lied on Feb 18, 2019 17:46:22 GMT
I had my eye on this one, back when it was in early access. It looks like a Russian version of the original FOs or Wasteland even. However I remember seeing many negative reviews on Steam, and I've been wary ever since. People claim it has too many bugs, and game breaking stuff which obscure what otherwise is a very nice game.
After it was released I haven't read many complaints about bugs or performances. Some people, as usual, lamented about the huge amount of dialogues, somebody else complained about the difficulty, the impossibility to unlock every skill, the turn based combat, in short the usual complaints that surround almost every isometric RPG game. The only grievance that is worthy of attention imho regards the English translation, which according to many people has some shortcomings, to the point where some dialogues became almost incomprehensible. Nothing that will prevent me from buying it tho.
|
|
officerdonnz
N3
The Fat Controller
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
Origin: OfficerDonNZ
Posts: 805 Likes: 1,975
inherit
The Fat Controller
10628
0
1,975
officerdonnz
805
December 2018
officerdonnz
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem
OfficerDonNZ
|
Post by officerdonnz on Feb 18, 2019 18:42:19 GMT
I've bought this on GOG and it's a bit rough round the edges but playable enough. Yeah the English translation is not it's strong point but most of the time you can figure out what is meant. Apparently they're working on some DLC which is a good sign. There are still some outstanding bugs like some items not working as intended but I haven't come across anything game braking.
|
|
Elfen Lied
N3
Fatebinder
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 372 Likes: 465
inherit
Fatebinder
1384
0
465
Elfen Lied
372
Sept 1, 2016 14:36:41 GMT
September 2016
elfenlied
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Elfen Lied on Feb 22, 2019 14:22:51 GMT
So did I...
Well, that's quite a feat, isn't it?
|
|
Elfen Lied
N3
Fatebinder
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 372 Likes: 465
inherit
Fatebinder
1384
0
465
Elfen Lied
372
Sept 1, 2016 14:36:41 GMT
September 2016
elfenlied
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Elfen Lied on Mar 26, 2019 11:19:00 GMT
They have just enhanced the game. Look at the changelog of the newer 1.08 version! Seriously, these guys deserve a lot of love. They have created a little gem, and they keep improving it with untamed passion.
Once they'll have released the DLC (which is planned for September) I'll start a new whole campaign.
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 26, 2019 21:14:55 GMT
So, is this actually a recommendable game? I read that the translated dialogue is pretty bad and not very interesting. I could endure bad gameplay for an interesting story but if the story is kind of mediocre too... I was interested in it until I read a number of very mixed reviews. Can somebody give me a brief review of the game's strengths and weaknesses, I'd appreciate it!
Now apparently Generation Zero got pretty bad reviews and awesome looking Atomic Heart is made by a shady developer... I'm wondering how to get my post-apocalyptic fix now!
So far 2019 is not shaping up to be a good year for gaming for me after all. Games are either apparently disappointing or going to Epic... :/
|
|
michaeln7
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 445 Likes: 829
inherit
10102
0
Sept 26, 2022 23:28:28 GMT
829
michaeln7
445
April 2018
michaeln7
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by michaeln7 on Mar 27, 2019 11:36:55 GMT
So, is this actually a recommendable game? I read that the translated dialogue is pretty bad and not very interesting. I could endure bad gameplay for an interesting story but if the story is kind of mediocre too... I was interested in it until I read a number of very mixed reviews. Can somebody give me a brief review of the game's strengths and weaknesses, I'd appreciate it! Now apparently Generation Zero got pretty bad reviews and awesome looking Atomic Heart is made by a shady developer... I'm wondering how to get my post-apocalyptic fix now! So far 2019 is not shaping up to be a good year for gaming for me after all. Games are either apparently disappointing or going to Epic... :/ To answer your initial question, yes. The gameplay is isometric, but the camera is free-spinning and you can zoom, so it's a bit "old-school" but with modern precision. Your character's appearance is based on the portrait you pick, but it's really easy to restart if you picked a portrait you liked but the hair is the wrong color. The gameplay is free-roaming regarding exploration, but combat becomes a turn-based affair. It's a lot of clicking, but I found it intuitive. The tutorial is very helpful here, especially since you start in the tutorial area. As far as story goes, I've only made it to the first area, but it's already subverted my initial expectations. Without spoiling anything, there's room for heartwarming, cleverness, and outright betrayal, and the obvious culprit (if there is one) may be innocent... or not. The graphics settings are easy to adjust, and you can even tweak the size of the UI to your liking. My native resolution is 2560x1440 at 120 refresh, but it supports just about any screen size you want, with at least five levels of detail running from "Best Performance" to "Fantastic" I will admit that since the game is in native Russian, some of the English translation is a bit iffy, but I have not seen any dialogue or exposition that was rendered incomprehensible because of it. But I would also argue that that is part of the appeal. The game takes place 20 years in the future, after the bombings, specifically, 2005. Yes, this is a story where the Cold War went reaaaal hot, reaaaal fast. On top of that, some of the people you meet are still die-hard Communists, so it's interesting to see a post-Soviet, post-apocalyptic world. All of the Fallout games I've played took place in the United States, so you often had some sort of patriotic or semi-patriotic (both good and bad) group, but here you can find a guy who used to be (as he claims) part of the Inner Circle, except he has next to no power. So from a lore-perspective, there's a lot there if you know anything about real-world history, and you have to be willing to talk to people. You can just start attacking everything in sight, but that's on you. TL;DR - This is not a "fast" game, and that is a very good thing. I have not made it far in the game (real life stuff) but I have found exploration rewarding and dialogue engaging. The controls take a minute to get used to but the system works very well for this game. It does not require insane hardware to run, but can accommodate gaming machines' extra power and processing. Unique premise, made with love, you can tell that they did their very best to put out a quality product.
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Mar 27, 2019 12:06:21 GMT
Thanks michaeln7 for your lengthy impressions, very much appreciated! It doesn't seem to have controller support but since it's turn based I should hopefully manage... Might give it a shot later this year.
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 17, 2019 12:18:44 GMT
Sooo, I've finally bought the game during the current GOG sale and... boy, it's frustratingly unbalanced and unfair so far. I should note that I somehow never spoke to the leader of the first village even though I went into every building several times. O_o
So I never gave him the letter of recommendation that triggers a questline. Instead I wandered straight into the nearby bunker at level 3 or so where I got robbed of everything I just pain-stakingly collected... (I did google how to get away with only losing half of your stuff. After about 10 reloads that worked out. Great....)
And then I checked out every location on the way to the big city where I arrived sick and still more or less broke after 10 hours... All the tips for making money involve skill levels I don't possess since progression is ridiculously slow unless you grind random encounters. Since combat is extremely boring I'd rather not... I could sum up my experience so far as: [Skill check failed] and [Target missed]. My character started out as a Child Prodigy / Morphine Doctor combination. I foolishly asusmed that like in Fallout and many other RPGs, I could build a speech and barter focused character who avoids combat. That's NOT working out so far. I fail most speech checks even at speech level 70 (putting most of my precious level-up points into it)! Asking for discounts always fails. Getting peopel to trust me to help them fails... So I suck at talking to people AND combat. I'm currently level 5. The only things I can kill are small critters. Most human enemies with guns one shot kill me. I wasted an hour (!) yesterday trying to kill a giant rat in the sewers with my first companion. We both had a gun but missed half of our shots AND got one hit mauled to death by the thing. WTF... Of course I'm not wearing any armor because I cannot afford it. I have 600 rubles now which seems like a small forture to me but sadly even the most ordinary leather armor costs 1000+ rubles. I have no crafting recipe for armor yet. And the ONE instance where a merchant sold one it was about 10 times as much money as I had on me... Eventually I managed to kill the giant rat. My companion died however. Turns out there was NO loot, only a note, in the rat den anyway..... RELOAD and back out. The entire game is such a poorly designed save scumming experience. The fact that lockpicking anything requires 5-20 retries makes me want to scream. I want to craft bullets? Better save because chances are it fails and your precious materials get destroyed.... AHHHHHHHH At some point my always coughing sick character got really sick on the snail speed world map traversal which resulted in my carry weight getting halved. And when you're REALLY overencumbered you cannot move AT ALL anymore. I figured my character was just starving. So I reloaded the last save in a circus. Too bad I had NO food in my inventory and NOBODY there sold any food...
AHHHHHHH
OK. Don't rage quit. Don't rage quit... I decided to take one of my 2 precious rad-away pills (my rads barw as half full). It did NOT cure my character. He was not poisoned either. OK then...
As I got back on the world map because what else was I supposed to do, by dumb luck the next random encounter was a caravan group headed for the big city who gave me a ride for really cheap. THAT saved my ass. I bought food.
I ate the food and was STILL sick. WTF?! What exactly is my illness now?!?! I'm neither hungry, nor irradiated nor poisoned right now but sick..... Do I maybe have to sleep and this is just exhaustion?!?! I have no idea!!!
AHHHHHHH
Clearly I'm doing something very wrong. Clearly I don't get the game. But the fact that there are so many things that can utterly screw you over is not cool... I really want to like this game! It has a staggering amount of flavor text. You can talk to pretty much any person. It may not be interesting what they have to say but they all have a story. I loved the freak show circus and the little drama going on there. I had my fun with the three paranoid guys at the side of the road who each thought the others got replaced by a body snatching brain worm. LOL.
There is a lot of humor and A TON of (pop) culture references. Like the dude in the first village who's looking for a copy of Lord Of The Rings, hahaha.
But the gameplay is HORRID. Also, there is NO dialogue roleplaying whatsoever. You have no personality. You just ask people questions and go from one question to the other with hilarious dismissive replies like "Yeah that sure sucks. Can I ask you another question?"
For a game made on a tiny budget, this game is decent. But I'm personally not a big fan of realistic gruelling poverty simulators. Tonight I'm going to try and get back to the starting village to do the quest I missed. MAYBE that makes all the difference... If not, I'm not sure I want to keep playing.
|
|
inherit
6864
0
1,975
aglomeracja
1,178
April 2017
aglomeracja
|
Post by aglomeracja on Dec 17, 2019 23:11:30 GMT
Sooo, I've finally bought the game during the current GOG sale and... boy, it's frustratingly unbalanced and unfair so far. I should note that I somehow never spoke to the leader of the first village even though I went into every building several times. O_o
So I never gave him the letter of recommendation that triggers a questline. Instead I wandered straight into the nearby bunker at level 3 or so where I got robbed of everything I just pain-stakingly collected... (I did google how to get away with only losing half of your stuff. After about 10 reloads that worked out. Great....)
And then I checked out every location on the way to the big city where I arrived sick and still more or less broke after 10 hours... All the tips for making money involve skill levels I don't possess since progression is ridiculously slow unless you grind random encounters. Since combat is extremely boring I'd rather not... I could sum up my experience so far as: [Skill check failed] and [Target missed]. My character started out as a Child Prodigy / Morphine Doctor combination. I foolishly asusmed that like in Fallout and many other RPGs, I could build a speech and barter focused character who avoids combat. That's NOT working out so far. I fail most speech checks even at speech level 70 (putting most of my precious level-up points into it)! Asking for discounts always fails. Getting peopel to trust me to help them fails... So I suck at talking to people AND combat. I'm currently level 5. The only things I can kill are small critters. Most human enemies with guns one shot kill me. I wasted an hour (!) yesterday trying to kill a giant rat in the sewers with my first companion. We both had a gun but missed half of our shots AND got one hit mauled to death by the thing. WTF... Of course I'm not wearing any armor because I cannot afford it. I have 600 rubles now which seems like a small forture to me but sadly even the most ordinary leather armor costs 1000+ rubles. I have no crafting recipe for armor yet. And the ONE instance where a merchant sold one it was about 10 times as much money as I had on me... Eventually I managed to kill the giant rat. My companion died however. Turns out there was NO loot, only a note, in the rat den anyway..... RELOAD and back out. The entire game is such a poorly designed save scumming experience. The fact that lockpicking anything requires 5-20 retries makes me want to scream. I want to craft bullets? Better save because chances are it fails and your precious materials get destroyed.... AHHHHHHHH At some point my always coughing sick character got really sick on the snail speed world map traversal which resulted in my carry weight getting halved. And when you're REALLY overencumbered you cannot move AT ALL anymore. I figured my character was just starving. So I reloaded the last save in a circus. Too bad I had NO food in my inventory and NOBODY there sold any food...
AHHHHHHH
OK. Don't rage quit. Don't rage quit... I decided to take one of my 2 precious rad-away pills (my rads barw as half full). It did NOT cure my character. He was not poisoned either. OK then...
As I got back on the world map because what else was I supposed to do, by dumb luck the next random encounter was a caravan group headed for the big city who gave me a ride for really cheap. THAT saved my ass. I bought food.
I ate the food and was STILL sick. WTF?! What exactly is my illness now?!?! I'm neither hungry, nor irradiated nor poisoned right now but sick..... Do I maybe have to sleep and this is just exhaustion?!?! I have no idea!!!
AHHHHHHH
Clearly I'm doing something very wrong. Clearly I don't get the game. But the fact that there are so many things that can utterly screw you over is not cool... I really want to like this game! It has a staggering amount of flavor text. You can talk to pretty much any person. It may not be interesting what they have to say but they all have a story. I loved the freak show circus and the little drama going on there. I had my fun with the three paranoid guys at the side of the road who each thought the others got replaced by a body snatching brain worm. LOL.
There is a lot of humor and A TON of (pop) culture references. Like the dude in the first village who's looking for a copy of Lord Of The Rings, hahaha.
But the gameplay is HORRID. Also, there is NO dialogue roleplaying whatsoever. You have no personality. You just ask people questions and go from one question to the other with hilarious dismissive replies like "Yeah that sure sucks. Can I ask you another question?"
For a game made on a tiny budget, this game is decent. But I'm personally not a big fan of realistic gruelling poverty simulators. Tonight I'm going to try and get back to the starting village to do the quest I missed. MAYBE that makes all the difference... If not, I'm not sure I want to keep playing.
Jesus, just don't ignore the starting area, avoid fights that are too hard for your character at the moment (you'll get stronger later and there are many quests that don't require combat at all) and read tooltips on debuffs you have (I'm not sure where they are, just remember not having any problems with figuring out what caused them)
Food poisoning or addiction can last for a while maybe you got one of those?
|
|
saandrig
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 3,967 Likes: 8,617
Member is Online
inherit
2719
0
Member is Online
Nov 26, 2024 15:29:23 GMT
8,617
saandrig
3,967
January 2017
saandrig
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by saandrig on Dec 18, 2019 10:30:12 GMT
-snip of horrible experiences- Gotta say, I had no interest in this game and now after reading your adventures in it, I have even less interest. But I enjoyed laughing at the gameplay description.
|
|
michaeln7
N3
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
Posts: 445 Likes: 829
inherit
10102
0
Sept 26, 2022 23:28:28 GMT
829
michaeln7
445
April 2018
michaeln7
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by michaeln7 on Dec 19, 2019 1:08:49 GMT
Sooo, I've finally bought the game during the current GOG sale and... boy, it's frustratingly unbalanced and unfair so far. I should note that I somehow never spoke to the leader of the first village even though I went into every building several times. O_o
So I never gave him the letter of recommendation that triggers a questline. Instead I wandered straight into the nearby bunker at level 3 or so where I got robbed of everything I just pain-stakingly collected... (I did google how to get away with only losing half of your stuff. After about 10 reloads that worked out. Great....)
And then I checked out every location on the way to the big city where I arrived sick and still more or less broke after 10 hours... All the tips for making money involve skill levels I don't possess since progression is ridiculously slow unless you grind random encounters. Since combat is extremely boring I'd rather not... I could sum up my experience so far as: [Skill check failed] and [Target missed]. My character started out as a Child Prodigy / Morphine Doctor combination. I foolishly asusmed that like in Fallout and many other RPGs, I could build a speech and barter focused character who avoids combat. That's NOT working out so far. I fail most speech checks even at speech level 70 (putting most of my precious level-up points into it)! Asking for discounts always fails. Getting peopel to trust me to help them fails... So I suck at talking to people AND combat. I'm currently level 5. The only things I can kill are small critters. Most human enemies with guns one shot kill me. I wasted an hour (!) yesterday trying to kill a giant rat in the sewers with my first companion. We both had a gun but missed half of our shots AND got one hit mauled to death by the thing. WTF... Of course I'm not wearing any armor because I cannot afford it. I have 600 rubles now which seems like a small forture to me but sadly even the most ordinary leather armor costs 1000+ rubles. I have no crafting recipe for armor yet. And the ONE instance where a merchant sold one it was about 10 times as much money as I had on me... Eventually I managed to kill the giant rat. My companion died however. Turns out there was NO loot, only a note, in the rat den anyway..... RELOAD and back out. The entire game is such a poorly designed save scumming experience. The fact that lockpicking anything requires 5-20 retries makes me want to scream. I want to craft bullets? Better save because chances are it fails and your precious materials get destroyed.... AHHHHHHHH At some point my always coughing sick character got really sick on the snail speed world map traversal which resulted in my carry weight getting halved. And when you're REALLY overencumbered you cannot move AT ALL anymore. I figured my character was just starving. So I reloaded the last save in a circus. Too bad I had NO food in my inventory and NOBODY there sold any food...
AHHHHHHH
OK. Don't rage quit. Don't rage quit... I decided to take one of my 2 precious rad-away pills (my rads barw as half full). It did NOT cure my character. He was not poisoned either. OK then...
As I got back on the world map because what else was I supposed to do, by dumb luck the next random encounter was a caravan group headed for the big city who gave me a ride for really cheap. THAT saved my ass. I bought food.
I ate the food and was STILL sick. WTF?! What exactly is my illness now?!?! I'm neither hungry, nor irradiated nor poisoned right now but sick..... Do I maybe have to sleep and this is just exhaustion?!?! I have no idea!!!
AHHHHHHH
Clearly I'm doing something very wrong. Clearly I don't get the game. But the fact that there are so many things that can utterly screw you over is not cool... I really want to like this game! It has a staggering amount of flavor text. You can talk to pretty much any person. It may not be interesting what they have to say but they all have a story. I loved the freak show circus and the little drama going on there. I had my fun with the three paranoid guys at the side of the road who each thought the others got replaced by a body snatching brain worm. LOL.
There is a lot of humor and A TON of (pop) culture references. Like the dude in the first village who's looking for a copy of Lord Of The Rings, hahaha.
But the gameplay is HORRID. Also, there is NO dialogue roleplaying whatsoever. You have no personality. You just ask people questions and go from one question to the other with hilarious dismissive replies like "Yeah that sure sucks. Can I ask you another question?"
For a game made on a tiny budget, this game is decent. But I'm personally not a big fan of realistic gruelling poverty simulators. Tonight I'm going to try and get back to the starting village to do the quest I missed. MAYBE that makes all the difference... If not, I'm not sure I want to keep playing.
I'm saying this from a position of kindness: You are doing it wrong. This is not an action game, this isn't a power fantasy. It's not quite as "walking simulator" as Death Stranding, but it isn't a COD or Modern Warfare. Again, not an insult. I can definitely sympathize with your frustrations. If you're having such an issue, talk to the developers. Last I heard, they were looking for feedback, and this game's been updated a dozen times since I got it.
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 19, 2019 8:20:02 GMT
It's going better now! I looked up some gun recipes online because buying them all would mean going broke again. I also got some armor now.
This way I survived my first major bandit ambush and got some loot! Wooh! But any big critter is still impossible at level 5. So I cannot clear the future base location. But just as well since I have no idea how I'm supposed to get 20.000 for all the upgrades. Took me 15h to get 2000 together. :/
Do people just grind bandit attacks or how the hell do I make money??? Junk sells for so little it just pays for my food. Carry weight is also quite low for me. Around 60. Even with Fidel as a pack mule I couldn't even loot the bandits completely... Can I have more than one companion? And if so, where are the others?
Some quests I cannot progress the way I want because my speech checks still fail (like reasoning with the moonshiners to accept the protection deal).
I don't mind slower games but the gameplay itself is quite unappealing. I like the world and the people. I like the fun stuff like participating in a porn film. Lol!
But progression is so slow it's agonizing.
|
|
saandrig
N5
Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
Posts: 3,967 Likes: 8,617
Member is Online
inherit
2719
0
Member is Online
Nov 26, 2024 15:29:23 GMT
8,617
saandrig
3,967
January 2017
saandrig
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Anthem, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
|
Post by saandrig on Dec 19, 2019 8:28:16 GMT
I like the fun stuff like participating in a porn film. Lol! So the developers played Fallout 2 You could become a famous pornstar there. Some pretty funny movie aliases to choose from as well as far as I recall.
|
|
inherit
6864
0
1,975
aglomeracja
1,178
April 2017
aglomeracja
|
Post by aglomeracja on Dec 19, 2019 8:38:53 GMT
It's going better now! I looked up some gun recipes online because buying them all would mean going broke again. I also got some armor now. This way I survived my first major bandit ambush and got some loot! Wooh! But any big critter is still impossible at level 5. So I cannot clear the future base location. But just as well since I have no idea how I'm supposed to get 20.000 for all the upgrades. Took me 15h to get 2000 together. :/ Do people just grind bandit attacks or how the hell do I make money??? Junk sells for so little it just pays for my food. Carry weight is also quite low for me. Around 60. Even with Fidel as a pack mule I couldn't even loot the bandits completely... Can I have more than one companion? And if so, where are the others? Some quests I cannot progress the way I want because my speech checks still fail (like reasoning with the moonshiners to accept the protection deal). I don't mind slower games but the gameplay itself is quite unappealing. I like the world and the people. I like the fun stuff like participating in a porn film. Lol! But progression is so slow it's agonizing. IIRC I mostly made money selling weapons, and later on it was much harder to find a shop or a caravan that would buy them off me, because they all have limited resources and reset every week or so. Just do some quests for now, you'll get money and exp from those. There are more companions, here's a guide how to get them (some minor spoilers obviously): atom-rpg.fandom.com/wiki/Companions
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 20, 2019 9:16:55 GMT
Sooo in other words, I first have to beat strong enemies somehow to get more companies I need to beat strong enemies. Well shit. Haven't come across the dog yet despite having travelled almost the entire map now. And I should match the survival requirement. Oh well. I'm still getting wrecked by giant rats and big spiders with just Fidel as a companion. My upgraded guns still jam all the fucking time even though I have enough points for handling them. I even have good armor now. Get knocked on my ass and eaten alive constantly. I have 6000 rubles now. That's something...
|
|
inherit
6864
0
1,975
aglomeracja
1,178
April 2017
aglomeracja
|
Post by aglomeracja on Dec 20, 2019 10:15:42 GMT
Sooo in other words, I first have to beat strong enemies somehow to get more companies I need to beat strong enemies. Well shit. Haven't come across the dog yet despite having travelled almost the entire map now. And I should match the survival requirement. Oh well. I'm still getting wrecked by giant rats and big spiders with just Fidel as a companion. My upgraded guns still jam all the fucking time even though I have enough points for handling them. I even have good armor now. Get knocked on my ass and eaten alive constantly. I have 6000 rubles now. That's something... Dog is rather useless anyway, can't carry much and doesn't do well fighting. IIRC I cleared Red Fighter when I had some long distance weapon on my main character, some rifle I think (and plenty of ammo). Don't remember how I got it though, maybe i defeated a small group of bandits and one of them had it, found it somewhere or just bought it off some caravan. Definitely don't buy (or sell) your weapons from the arms dealer in the city, at least not the basic ones. He has the worst prices. This might be useful steamcommunity.com/app/552620/discussions/1/1646544348830510815/
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Dec 21, 2019 8:36:50 GMT
But... but a dog is always the best companion no matter how useless!
I have 10.000 rubles now. I'm saving for my base. I've been collecting corn seeds. I want to be able to craft lots of weird dolls. They sell quite well.
Currently my best gun is the percussion revolver I crafted. I'd love to upgrade it but crafting always fails or it crafts something else. Same happens with the trip barrel gun. Can't craft the four barrel. Super annoying.
I also have the magazine rifle but it jems all the time and I'm out of ammo.
Took me 2 hours last night to clear the spiders in the catacombs under the city. And then my reward was a dead rat...?!? They guy promised loot but I can't find any. I spent almost all my ammo on this encounter because the spiders dodge knives like crazy. Had to use up my previous grenades too. My throwing skill is extremely low though. So the metal crossbow I crafted is useless.
The worst part about combat is how fast enemies topple you over and often you can't get up anymore but you can't reload until you're dead. So I have to sit there and watch my character get mauled to death over and over... How can a tiny spider topple me on the first attack at full health!? That's so ridiculously unfair. There is no protection for the legs so that's why this happens I guess. I already have the best armor (metal). That's just stupid. Unless I'm somehow supposed to have 10 dexterity when I've only been able to distribute a few points in 20h...
I don't think progression should be THAT slow in any game. Maybe I did too much exploring on the side? I haven't done the election yet. Just sent the guy over.
The game is both incredibly frustrating and awesome by now.
|
|
inherit
6864
0
1,975
aglomeracja
1,178
April 2017
aglomeracja
|
Post by aglomeracja on Dec 21, 2019 11:01:44 GMT
But... but a dog is always the best companion no matter how useless! I have 10.000 rubles now. I'm saving for my base. I've been collecting corn seeds. I want to be able to craft lots of weird dolls. They sell quite well. Currently my best gun is the percussion revolver I crafted. I'd love to upgrade it but crafting always fails or it crafts something else. Same happens with the trip barrel gun. Can't craft the four barrel. Super annoying. I also have the magazine rifle but it jems all the time and I'm out of ammo. Took me 2 hours last night to clear the spiders in the catacombs under the city. And then my reward was a dead rat...?!? They guy promised loot but I can't find any. I spent almost all my ammo on this encounter because the spiders dodge knives like crazy. Had to use up my previous grenades too. My throwing skill is extremely low though. So the metal crossbow I crafted is useless. The worst part about combat is how fast enemies topple you over and often you can't get up anymore but you can't reload until you're dead. So I have to sit there and watch my character get mauled to death over and over... How can a tiny spider topple me on the first attack at full health!? That's so ridiculously unfair. There is no protection for the legs so that's why this happens I guess. I already have the best armor (metal). That's just stupid. Unless I'm somehow supposed to have 10 dexterity when I've only been able to distribute a few points in 20h... I don't think progression should be THAT slow in any game. Maybe I did too much exploring on the side? I haven't done the election yet. Just sent the guy over. The game is both incredibly frustrating and awesome by now. Are you using "experiment" when crafting? You can buy or find recipes that will allow you to craft exactly what you want.
How does your build look like?
|
|
inherit
6864
0
1,975
aglomeracja
1,178
April 2017
aglomeracja
|
Post by aglomeracja on Dec 21, 2019 13:01:16 GMT
Kappa Neko I forgot about one important tip, each time you level up you get skill points and ability points. Ability tree unfortunately is easy to miss, you access it from your character screen - it's one of the icons on the left. There you can pick whatever you want, but Armor of God may interest you the most since it reduces chance of getting knocked down by 20%
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Jan 2, 2020 12:23:38 GMT
So, I'm still playing!
I'm level 14 now. Swimming in cash. Base is fully upgraded. I now have 3 active companions and the slave girl for her inventory space.
I used the respecc potion yesterday. When I created my character I somehow missed that I could lower the base stats. That struck me as odd but for some reason I didn't realize it was mapped to the X button. So I didn't have a dump stat. *facepalm*
So glad about the do-over. Made luck my dump stat and boosted my dexterity at last! I can now use automatic weapons. Yes!
Now that I have dealt with all Death members I received a unique helmet with +1 strength. Which is perfect because I have a pistol that needs 7. I was saving one stat point unsure about blowing it on that one weapon. Now I don't behave to. Perfect!
I spent a pretty penny on a bullet proof vest that doesn't behave the dexterity penalty and is almost as good as the cuirass. I'm still looking for a 100% gas mask. I only managed to acquire a 50% one. Then again I only learned yesterday that popping two rad pills makes you imumune. How bizarre. I didn't realize that stuff stacked...
That got me through the Death Tunnel. But the monsters in there took me a lot of reloading to kill before they killed a companion. Once I almost had it and then one companion killed another one by friendly fire. GODDAMN IT!
Fights against humans are still randomly unfair. Sometimes they all have grenades and after the third that deals 30 damage, everyone is dead before I can even make a move. WTF.
Looks like enemies scale with you. If I get better guns, the enemies have better gear too. I think they also scale with your party size which is smart.
I've been to the Mountain Pass. Next thing to do is go to the Dead City, I believe.
Btw, so repairing the car is for nothing? What exactly was the point of that other than getting a tragic scene? I assumed this would be my fast travel option at last. Do I really have to buy one for a lot of money??
|
|
inherit
6864
0
1,975
aglomeracja
1,178
April 2017
aglomeracja
|
Post by aglomeracja on Jan 3, 2020 13:13:23 GMT
So, I'm still playing! I'm level 14 now. Swimming in cash. Base is fully upgraded. I now have 3 active companions and the slave girl for her inventory space. I used the respecc potion yesterday. When I created my character I somehow missed that I could lower the base stats. That struck me as odd but for some reason I didn't realize it was mapped to the X button. So I didn't have a dump stat. *facepalm* So glad about the do-over. Made luck my dump stat and boosted my dexterity at last! I can now use automatic weapons. Yes! Now that I have dealt with all Death members I received a unique helmet with +1 strength. Which is perfect because I have a pistol that needs 7. I was saving one stat point unsure about blowing it on that one weapon. Now I don't behave to. Perfect! I spent a pretty penny on a bullet proof vest that doesn't behave the dexterity penalty and is almost as good as the cuirass. I'm still looking for a 100% gas mask. I only managed to acquire a 50% one. Then again I only learned yesterday that popping two rad pills makes you imumune. How bizarre. I didn't realize that stuff stacked... That got me through the Death Tunnel. But the monsters in there took me a lot of reloading to kill before they killed a companion. Once I almost had it and then one companion killed another one by friendly fire. GODDAMN IT! Fights against humans are still randomly unfair. Sometimes they all have grenades and after the third that deals 30 damage, everyone is dead before I can even make a move. WTF. Looks like enemies scale with you. If I get better guns, the enemies have better gear too. I think they also scale with your party size which is smart. I've been to the Mountain Pass. Next thing to do is go to the Dead City, I believe. Btw, so repairing the car is for nothing? What exactly was the point of that other than getting a tragic scene? I assumed this would be my fast travel option at last. Do I really have to buy one for a lot of money?? If you go with armor ability tree (which is recommended), armor penalties won't affect you.
Easy way to get the car is to do a quest you get from some weirdo in Krasnoznamenny (IIRC he's near Chamber of Commerce).
Quest spoilers:
You assault the Old Scrapyard and kill everyone there. Then you can take the car for free.
You probably could kill everyone there without any help at this point if you wanted to.
|
|
inherit
1817
0
Nov 26, 2024 13:09:34 GMT
11,086
Kappa Neko
...lives for biotic explosions. And cheesecake!
4,197
Oct 18, 2016 21:17:18 GMT
October 2016
kappaneko
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, Mass Effect Andromeda
|
Post by Kappa Neko on Jan 9, 2020 20:18:49 GMT
Just finished the game! Took me more than 100 hours! I spent 50% of that time managing my inventory, I think... Only to end up with 63.000 rubles and no opportunity to spend it! I thought I could at least buy a car. But nope! I missed the only opportunity to get one when I did the corresponding quest with a speech check to got me the statue peacefully without the mutants leaving. Because I didn't know about the car and had no reason to make them leave...
The optional last battle is so ridiculously hard, I couldn't pull it off. I was level 17, drugged up and still got killed on the first round every single time by the enemy's OP weapons. Not even the best grenades managed to kill a single enemy on my turn... The balancing in this game is a joke.
I failed the speech check with 154!!!! WTF?!? I failed the strength check with 10. WTF?!?
I was ready to give up on seeing the ending and be royally pissed when I tried the intellect check again and picked the ONE combination I hadn't tried before and that was the one that got me through the encounter unharmed!
I tried 3 variations of the ending and each time the big city was fucked. But everyone else was doing fine. Except that one of my choices with a gang got Fidel killed years later. Fuck. I guess overall it counts as a good ending though. I also checked the ATOM ending and the creepy ending. That went as expected...
I'm a bit disappointed that the epilogue doesn't reach far enough into the future to tell whether or not the doomsday prophecy was true. And I wish the epilogue also included more minor choices like the mutant circus. The ending is only about the factions and companions.
That said, I'm OK with the ending. The main story is super short but not bad. I like the idea of it, it's just a shame that there is so little story there. It had a lot of potential for more than just visiting 3 bunkers...
I know that the game's strength lies in the side quests and world building. Same could be said for Fallout. I'll even say that Atom RPG has a better story than FO3. Or a better rough plot in any case since the story is so short.
I still think the game is poorly balanced and downright unfair at times. But despite that I had a blast with this world and its characters. And I didn't encounter a single quest bug or any other bug aside from getting trapped after a conversation and not always being able to break freak again by latching onto a new target. But since this game is build around save scumming, reloading a save once or twice wasn't a big deal.
I recommend this game to patient RPG fans who don't mind extremely slow progression and never reaching the point where your character becomes OP. Some might even consider this a plus.
I'm tempted to try Wasteland 2 now but I'm worried I'll struggle even more with that one...
|
|
inherit
6864
0
1,975
aglomeracja
1,178
April 2017
aglomeracja
|
Post by aglomeracja on Jan 10, 2020 10:20:25 GMT
Just finished the game! Took me more than 100 hours! I spent 50% of that time managing my inventory, I think... Only to end up with 63.000 rubles and no opportunity to spend it! I thought I could at least buy a car. But nope! I missed the only opportunity to get one when I did the corresponding quest with a speech check to got me the statue peacefully without the mutants leaving. Because I didn't know about the car and had no reason to make them leave... The optional last battle is so ridiculously hard, I couldn't pull it off. I was level 17, drugged up and still got killed on the first round every single time by the enemy's OP weapons. Not even the best grenades managed to kill a single enemy on my turn... The balancing in this game is a joke. I failed the speech check with 154!!!! WTF?!? I failed the strength check with 10. WTF?!? I was ready to give up on seeing the ending and be royally pissed when I tried the intellect check again and picked the ONE combination I hadn't tried before and that was the one that got me through the encounter unharmed! I tried 3 variations of the ending and each time the big city was fucked. But everyone else was doing fine. Except that one of my choices with a gang got Fidel killed years later. Fuck. I guess overall it counts as a good ending though. I also checked the ATOM ending and the creepy ending. That went as expected... I'm a bit disappointed that the epilogue doesn't reach far enough into the future to tell whether or not the doomsday prophecy was true. And I wish the epilogue also included more minor choices like the mutant circus. The ending is only about the factions and companions. That said, I'm OK with the ending. The main story is super short but not bad. I like the idea of it, it's just a shame that there is so little story there. It had a lot of potential for more than just visiting 3 bunkers... I know that the game's strength lies in the side quests and world building. Same could be said for Fallout. I'll even say that Atom RPG has a better story than FO3. Or a better rough plot in any case since the story is so short. I still think the game is poorly balanced and downright unfair at times. But despite that I had a blast with this world and its characters. And I didn't encounter a single quest bug or any other bug aside from getting trapped after a conversation and not always being able to break freak again by latching onto a new target. But since this game is build around save scumming, reloading a save once or twice wasn't a big deal. I recommend this game to patient RPG fans who don't mind extremely slow progression and never reaching the point where your character becomes OP. Some might even consider this a plus. I'm tempted to try Wasteland 2 now but I'm worried I'll struggle even more with that one... There is a dlc coming for ATOM and they might do ATOM 2 some time later on, so the epilogue couldn't cover everything As for the difficulty level - I replayed it recently on normal (after I've one of your first posts describing your struggles ) and it went surprisingly easy. I finished the game at level 14 or 15, last to fight requires some buffing, clever positioning and a couple of reloads, but it was the biggest challenge I had in a long while. You certainly can become overpowered if you know what you're doing, which probably won't be the case for anyone who plays the game for the first time, unless you read some character building guides beforehand.
|
|