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Post by samhain444 on Mar 14, 2019 19:05:50 GMT
Despite the end game message regarding trouble on the Quarian Ark, BioWare never explicitly said there would be more content for ME:A. Mike Gamble and Casey Hudson have both said on different occasions said that "Anthem" has a foundational structure for more content and updates that ME:A never had and that more story content was incoming, backed up by Twitter shots of actors in MOCAP. ME:A's SP DLC status was always vague while they have been pretty explicit with their plans for "Anthem" including a year long roadmap
Two completely different things. You're comparing a live services game to a SP RPG. One is always going to have a longer more defined roadmap than the other. If it's a GAAS, the plan is always to spread the content out to keep you playing and paying longer.
And the poster was skeptical of the future of "Anthem" using "ME:A" as an example where SP DLC was seemingly implied and never materialized. Of course they are different...that's what I tried to convey - one was built for future content, one wasn't
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 14, 2019 19:05:52 GMT
Serious question here, no bullshit - Do you think that with some more patches, fixes, extra content etc, Anthem could be a great game? The fundamentals are sound. Gameplay, world. The launch story and characters were good (if short) that's not broken. But the bugs need to be put to bed.
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Post by cypherj on Mar 14, 2019 19:38:28 GMT
Serious question here, no bullshit - Do you think that with some more patches, fixes, extra content etc, Anthem could be a great game? Are the foundations there, or will it perhaps be a good game, or a mediocre one? Obviously this stuff should've been sorted on release, but now I'm intrigued to see what they can do from this point forward, and where the future of the game lies.
It's hard to say. I'm not a programmer. Some of these issues are in the core elements. Obviously they'll fix stuff like quickplay, pilot data loading wrong, bug type issues. They'll obviously release more content.
But...
- They need to overhaul the loot system. - They need to overhaul the mission design.
- They need to fix the difficulty scaling from level to level late in the game, and the increased difficulty has to be due to more than just increased enemy HP & Damage. - They need to overhaul inscription system. Way too much RNG involved leading to far too many useless drops and crafted items. - They need to incorporate flying more into missions.
That's just the stuff off the top of my head. I don't know how difficult these and other things will be to fix, or if some of this stuff will just have to be Anthem II.
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Mar 14, 2019 20:30:27 GMT
i hope this piece of trash game gets killed off as a failed experiment in the near future. Ditto
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Post by smilesja on Mar 14, 2019 22:21:39 GMT
Well, liking something in spite of it's flaws, and acting like those flaws don't exist are two completely different things.
This game could be bricking peoples' hard drives and some of these people would still be saying that people are overreacting, or that the game isn't getting a fair shake. I like it despite its flaws (they absolutely exist, though all the flaws are fixable in my view). The actual evidence suggests the game is not bricking people's consoles. I wouldn't say people are overreacting because the faults are absolutely on BioWare, this is not the launch standard expected of a AAA game. Thankfully, the Day One patch (on Xbox) addressed the vast majority of performance issues, and patch 1.0.3 dealt with most other bugs, but the issues remaining are annoying, though no longer game breaking. The next patch (presumably 1.0.4) would likely bring the game to a standard acceptable for a normal day one release.Thankfully, it's a fun game, if not better that, though its underlying greatness has been obscured by more immediate concerns. I mean who's acting like flaws don't exist in the game? I haven't seen them.
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Post by river82 on Mar 14, 2019 22:43:18 GMT
Serious question here, no bullshit - Do you think that with some more patches, fixes, extra content etc, Anthem could be a great game? Are the foundations there, or will it perhaps be a good game, or a mediocre one? Obviously this stuff should've been sorted on release, but now I'm intrigued to see what they can do from this point forward, and where the future of the game lies. People are mostly complaining at bugs, lack of engame and loot issues, which are 100% fixable things, while even those complaining at Anthem usually admit that the core gameplay is solid, the world is beautiful and the lore is immersive. Story's not done, and if there's one thing I appreciate about Bioware is that their stories shine the more layers they pile on top as time goes by (I think most of complaints in this area stem from the fact that people aren't used to the new format, which goes against many things people expect from Bioware or big RPGs in general). I would also add that only having 2 skills plus gunplay not being overly powerful is currently leading to repetitive combat. They'll probably want to look at that also because a fair few people are disappointed with it.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 14, 2019 22:49:36 GMT
I think we can all agree, though... ... that the game could use more tits. Everyone likes tits. mo’ tits = mo’ players Simple.
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Post by tatann on Mar 14, 2019 22:57:25 GMT
I think we can all agree, though... ... that the game could use more tits. Everyone likes tits. mo’ tits = mo’ players Simple. Considering the success of Warframe, I'd say people want more ass, not more tits
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 14, 2019 23:16:52 GMT
I think we can all agree, though... ... that the game could use more tits. Everyone likes tits. mo’ tits = mo’ players Simple. Considering the success of Warframe, I'd say people want more ass, not more tits What’s an ass? Is that another type of bird?
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Post by Shinobu on Mar 14, 2019 23:21:20 GMT
Look at these beauties.
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Post by anarchy65 on Mar 14, 2019 23:40:32 GMT
Fanboys after Bioware says there will be no more patches nor DLC for Anthem
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 14, 2019 23:51:18 GMT
Of course everyone is witnessing the death throes of Bioware till the next game goes live, then the next and the next and so on and so on cause that's what those with no life wants, those that?....? well I'll leave it there cause you know who I'm talking about, Oh pls do not try and turn this around by asking who I am talking about that's how the trolls roll
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i hope this piece of trash game gets killed off as a failed experiment in the near future.
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Post by Superhik on Mar 15, 2019 0:28:59 GMT
I like it despite its flaws (they absolutely exist, though all the flaws are fixable in my view). The actual evidence suggests the game is not bricking people's consoles. I wouldn't say people are overreacting because the faults are absolutely on BioWare, this is not the launch standard expected of a AAA game. Thankfully, the Day One patch (on Xbox) addressed the vast majority of performance issues, and patch 1.0.3 dealt with most other bugs, but the issues remaining are annoying, though no longer game breaking. The next patch (presumably 1.0.4) would likely bring the game to a standard acceptable for a normal day one release.Thankfully, it's a fun game, if not better that, though its underlying greatness has been obscured by more immediate concerns. Serious question here, no bullshit - Do you think that with some more patches, fixes, extra content etc, Anthem could be a great game? Are the foundations there, or will it perhaps be a good game, or a mediocre one? Obviously this stuff should've been sorted on release, but now I'm intrigued to see what they can do from this point forward, and where the future of the game lies. It's possible, buuut Division 2 happened..and it's a game that so far ahead of Anthem, in tech and execution. Anthem feels like a one note ( pretty) theme park where all you do is fly, touch the beacon, fight enemies ( that spawn out of thin air), rinse/repeat.
Anthem would have to completely redesign missions, enemies and AI, loot, difficulty, exploration, add interesting locations to the world, experience and progression, dynamic events with npcs/wildlife interaction, how co-op/freeplay/story work, etc, etc.
And fans can't blame it this time on "memes", public hate or bad timing release...Anthem is a shell of a game, that only handles well visuals and traversal. This would be one hell of a turn around to pull it off.
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Post by Mobius Y on Mar 15, 2019 0:40:27 GMT
Look at these beauties. Dayum, that is some mighty fine ass.
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Post by tatarforas on Mar 15, 2019 1:59:56 GMT
Yeah I genuinely feel that DA4 is there last chance, otherwise the only things I can see them doing currently that would restore some faith in them is remaster the ME trilogy and maybe come out with an expansion or two for Andromeda. Basically pull a 343, but I doubt EA will let them do anything of the sort.
I mostly blame EAs requirement to use Frostbite for a lot of the problems that Bioware games have had in recent years.
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Post by bakgrind on Mar 15, 2019 2:58:29 GMT
Yeah I genuinely feel that DA4 is there last chance, otherwise the only things I can see them doing currently that would restore some faith in them is remaster the ME trilogy and maybe come out with an expansion or two for Andromeda. Basically pull a 343, but I doubt EA will let them do anything of the sort. I mostly blame EAs requirement to use Frostbite for a lot of the problems that Bioware games have had in recent years. Here is something that you may be interested in that has a little insight into the development of Andromeda. You may not of seen it before,but the first 13 mins dealt with the politics and hardships of the development process. The rest of the video just deals with he general review of the game which is pretty good.
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Post by majesticjazz on Mar 15, 2019 3:54:22 GMT
Given how the embedded Quarian DLC annoumcement in MEA got canned a healthy dose of scepticism is to be expected. They didn't show any roadmap for Andromeda at all. They didnt show one for ME3, DAI, ME2, ME1, DA2 or DAO and they all had SP DLC. Why didnt MEA?
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Post by majesticjazz on Mar 15, 2019 3:55:51 GMT
Given how the embedded Quarian DLC annoumcement in MEA got canned a healthy dose of scepticism is to be expected. Despite the end game message regarding trouble on the Quarian Ark, BioWare never explicitly said there would be more content for ME:A. Mike Gamble and Casey Hudson have both said on different occasions said that "Anthem" has a foundational structure for more content and updates that ME:A never had and that more story content was incoming, backed up by Twitter shots of actors in MOCAP. ME:A's SP DLC status was always vague while they have been pretty explicit with their plans for "Anthem" including a year long roadmap Lol #SavetheQuarians Funny because I remember using a similar argument here way back when about MEA will ot get DLC cause Bioware never made any comments about there being any pre launch. I then compared that to previous Bioware games in which while Bioware never confirmed specifics, they did confirm there would be SP post launch support/content. But yet people here like the ones who liked your comment shot me down and used references such as the MEA ending as some sort of proof that Bioware plans to support the game post launch. Right after launch in order to support the game as being a success said there would definitely be DLC. The after it was confirmed that there wouldn't be DLC, people in support of the not being seen as a failure said it was never planned for Bioware to have DLC... Funny isnt it? #SavethrQuarians
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Post by samhain444 on Mar 15, 2019 4:28:39 GMT
Despite the end game message regarding trouble on the Quarian Ark, BioWare never explicitly said there would be more content for ME:A. Mike Gamble and Casey Hudson have both said on different occasions said that "Anthem" has a foundational structure for more content and updates that ME:A never had and that more story content was incoming, backed up by Twitter shots of actors in MOCAP. ME:A's SP DLC status was always vague while they have been pretty explicit with their plans for "Anthem" including a year long roadmap Lol #SavetheQuarians Funny because I remember using a similar argument here way back when about MEA will ot get DLC cause Bioware never made any comments about there being any pre launch. I then compared that to previous Bioware games in which while Bioware never confirmed specifics, they did confirm there would be SP post launch support/content. But yet people here like the ones who liked your comment shot me down and used references such as the MEA ending as some sort of proof that Bioware plans to support the game post launch. Right after launch in order to support the game as being a success said there would definitely be DLC. The after it was confirmed that there wouldn't be DLC, people in support of the not being seen as a failure said it was never planned for Bioware to have DLC... Funny isnt it? #SavethrQuarians I don't know, is it?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 15, 2019 4:56:41 GMT
Lol #SavetheQuarians Funny because I remember using a similar argument here way back when about MEA will ot get DLC cause Bioware never made any comments about there being any pre launch. I then compared that to previous Bioware games in which while Bioware never confirmed specifics, they did confirm there would be SP post launch support/content. But yet people here like the ones who liked your comment shot me down and used references such as the MEA ending as some sort of proof that Bioware plans to support the game post launch. Right after launch in order to support the game as being a success said there would definitely be DLC. The after it was confirmed that there wouldn't be DLC, people in support of the not being seen as a failure said it was never planned for Bioware to have DLC... Funny isnt it? #SavethrQuarians I don't know, is it? Don’t feed the trolls.
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Post by bshep on Mar 15, 2019 5:23:07 GMT
Even a broken watch is right for two minutes everyday...
Of course everyone is witnessing the death throes of Bioware till the next game goes live, then the next and the next and so on and so on cause that's what those with no life wants, those that?....? well I'll leave it there cause you know who I'm talking about, Oh pls do not try and turn this around by asking who I am talking about that's how the trolls roll As i said before, Bioware must be Solomon Grundy. After all according to some people here they have been dying since the time of ME2.
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Post by NotN7 on Mar 15, 2019 5:46:12 GMT
Even a broken watch is right for two minutes everyday...
Of course everyone is witnessing the death throes of Bioware till the next game goes live, then the next and the next and so on and so on cause that's what those with no life wants, those that?....? well I'll leave it there cause you know who I'm talking about, Oh pls do not try and turn this around by asking who I am talking about that's how the trolls roll As i said before, Bioware must be Solomon Grundy. After all according to some people here they have been dying since the time of ME2. LOL! True so true and you know what the funny part is they show or I should say post Utube video's as their proof to verify their claims, sorry but HUH??? get real talk of that which you know and what you don't let those who do. and sorry but those vids hehe they don't know.
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Post by Gileadan on Mar 15, 2019 7:47:36 GMT
Serious question here, no bullshit - Do you think that with some more patches, fixes, extra content etc, Anthem could be a great game? Are the foundations there, or will it perhaps be a good game, or a mediocre one? Obviously this stuff should've been sorted on release, but now I'm intrigued to see what they can do from this point forward, and where the future of the game lies. That's the big question, isn't it? Given enough time, effort and competence, almost nothing is impossible of course. But the question is whether the powers in charge are willing to pay for the time and effort and whether the designers/developers have the competence. I see a fundamental problem here: parts of the game mechanics, namely looting and damage scaling, seem to be either broken or suffer from deeply flawed design, requiring an almost complete overhaul. On the other hand, hardcore players have reached the end game, even maximum overall gear rank, one month after release. Any overhaul would have to happen in a way that does not invalidate/reset/diminish the successes players already had with the current system. No one likes having their gear patched to crap because the devs suddenly had an epiphany about the game's general difficulty and itemization. Also the game is in desperate need of more content and ideally individual loot tables tied to that content. It needs to offer different activities other than repeating the same content over and over, hoping to get a duplicate item with slightly better inscriptions. Anthem has a long, long way to go if it doesn't want to become irrelevant quickly. Whether BioWare can take it to where it needs to be, given the blunders in design and execution so far... we'll see, I suppose.
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Post by solomace on Mar 15, 2019 10:10:37 GMT
Well judging by these forums, I'd say it's a definite yes.
Hardly anyone posts and the first page topics are still the same with just a few people posting.
You can tell how a game is doing by its forums, as people soon cleared out of here sharpish leaving those same lifers (10000 plus posters) who haven't even bought the game and just want to defend Bioware.
Bioware, it's just a name now that people forget that the ethos, developers and even the owners left years ago.
Bioware was hemorrhaging after DAO and finally died after ME3.
Get over it.
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