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Post by cmdrshep2183 on Mar 17, 2019 23:59:59 GMT
Liara was my favorite throughout the original trilogy although I thought Tali was cute.
I am tired of serious military and scientific types. How about a party girl?
How would we fit this type of character into a Mass Effect story?
How would you make an Asari Commando who is a total party girl when she is off the field feel like a real person rather than something out of a fanfiction?
I also think the Kett and Angara are boring. Not interested at all in the Jardaan. I liked Scott Ryder's background story and I thought he was fun but I think the setting is boring.
Would you want the next Mass Effect player character to have an AI in his brain? I thought it was a cool concept but what do you think of it? Did it take away from Ryder's character?
Can the Mass Effect setting be salvaged or is EA and Bioware better off creating an all new space opera universe?
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 18, 2019 0:10:42 GMT
What do you mean by 'serious military or scientific type'?
What do you mean by 'party girl' or 'out of a fanfiction'?
Neat.
Well I'm hoping we have one more game with Ryder to finish their story so yes. However for a new player character I suppose that depends on their story.
It can absolutely be salvaged. I don't think it even needs to be salvaged.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2019 0:16:32 GMT
I thought Diana Allers was a non-military, non-scientific type romance option... it didn't turn out so well.
Yes, I believe the ME series can continue... in Andromeda. The next game can always be a simply great game... and then the rest just won't matter.
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Post by KaiserShep on Mar 22, 2019 15:03:02 GMT
Scientific type is best type.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 22, 2019 19:13:16 GMT
Well to be fair we did already. I mean Pee Bee wasn't a "serious" scientist. She was quite....silly.
Technically we had some non military and non serious scientist types. Jack wasn't in any military and neither was thane.
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 22, 2019 19:27:29 GMT
Well to be fair we did already. I mean Pee Bee wasn't a "serious" scientist. She was quite....silly. Technically we had some non military and non serious scientist types. Jack wasn't in any military and neither was thane. Yea, Peebee came to mind immediately. Also Jaal. Yes, he's in the resistence but I don't think the military defines his character very much and he does crack a few pretty good jokes (just talk to him on Aya until he tells you about the wedding song prank ). Then there is Kelly Chambers, if you count her. And Rayes also is more of a rogue than anything else. The asari reporter Keri T'vesa (?) is another example.
So I don't think it's been too bad so far. But sure, I wouldn't mind diversity there. I liked that Andromeda didn't constrain you to crew members that much. In fact, I think it makes sense to have more romance options for people who are not on your ship/squad but are recurring characters that live somewhere else.
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Post by garrusfan1 on Mar 22, 2019 22:53:03 GMT
Well to be fair we did already. I mean Pee Bee wasn't a "serious" scientist. She was quite....silly. Technically we had some non military and non serious scientist types. Jack wasn't in any military and neither was thane. Yea, Peebee came to mind immediately. Also Jaal. Yes, he's in the resistence but I don't think the military defines his character very much and he does crack a few pretty good jokes (just talk to him on Aya until he tells you about the wedding song prank ). Then there is Kelly Chambers, if you count her. And Rayes also is more of a rogue than anything else. The asari reporter Keri T'vesa (?) is another example.
So I don't think it's been too bad so far. But sure, I wouldn't mind diversity there. I liked that Andromeda didn't constrain you to crew members that much. In fact, I think it makes sense to have more romance options for people who are not on your ship/squad but are recurring characters that live somewhere else.
I never had an LI that wasn't a crewmate. I had cora,vetra,jaal,and pee bee.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 24, 2019 3:28:46 GMT
I am tired of serious military and scientific types. How about a party girl? Okay, party girl. She shows up to fight but she's high on Hallex. Random dude with a gun thinks she's really annoying and shoots her in the head. Party girl is done.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 24, 2019 3:31:32 GMT
Yea, Peebee came to mind immediately. Also Jaal. Yes, he's in the resistence but I don't think the military defines his character very much and he does crack a few pretty good jokes (just talk to him on Aya until he tells you about the wedding song prank ). Then there is Kelly Chambers, if you count her. And Rayes also is more of a rogue than anything else. The asari reporter Keri T'vesa (?) is another example.
So I don't think it's been too bad so far. But sure, I wouldn't mind diversity there. I liked that Andromeda didn't constrain you to crew members that much. In fact, I think it makes sense to have more romance options for people who are not on your ship/squad but are recurring characters that live somewhere else.
I never had an LI that wasn't a crewmate. I had cora,vetra,jaal,and pee bee. MEA didn't leave me much choice due to lack of interest in Jaal. Had to be Chief Engineer Gil Brodie or smuggler Reyes Vidal. I'm a space racist and only have human LIs.
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Post by opuspace on Mar 24, 2019 3:39:41 GMT
I am tired of serious military and scientific types. How about a party girl? Okay, party girl. She shows up to fight but she's high on Hallex. Random dude with a gun thinks she's really annoying and shoots her in the head. Party girl is done. Already had Morinth for that and she was eye rollingly edgy.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Mar 24, 2019 4:07:15 GMT
I never had an LI that wasn't a crewmate. I had cora,vetra,jaal,and pee bee. MEA didn't leave me much choice due to lack of interest in Jaal. Had to be Chief Engineer Gil Brodie or smuggler Reyes Vidal. I'm a space racist and only have human LIs. Hopefully next game everyone gets the same amount of LIs.
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Post by Sah291 on Mar 25, 2019 14:05:17 GMT
Hmm, weren't both Liara and Tali scientific types though? Tali was a skilled engineer and Liara an archeologist. We've had silly/fun characters like Peebee (who is also science minded with the rem tech), but she was more roguish I guess.
I think what you maybe mean are sweet or innocent non combat types? Both Liara and Tali strike me as having a similar arc, where they go from a kind of sheltered upbringing from important familes/parents to being suddenly thrown into combat and eventually becoming skilled, especially politically--Liara with the Shadow Broker arc, and Tali as a daughter of a member of the Admiralty.
We didn't really have any characters/companions like that in MEA. Except perhaps Jaal, but he was a competent fighter. Although he did have the political angle as a liaison to his people, and his romance is on the sweeter side, IMO. I would guess you mean female characters though.
I did like a lot the concept of being melded to an A.I. in Andromeda, although if they were to do a sequel I'd like to see that have more of an impact story wise other than just as a communications system during missions to guide you along various missions objectives. I want to see the narrative consequences of that and see SAM evolve and drive Scott/Sara to make some difficult choices. The stuff we got towards the end of Andromeda for example.
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Post by kalreegar on Mar 25, 2019 17:44:24 GMT
mmmm... in bioware games, except maybe in the DA2, you always are some sort of super-elite soldier, always around the world killing things and saving worlds. So you necessarly spent 98% of your time with "colleagues" (soldiers, mages, killing machines); you run high profile operations, so you need also brillant minds, scientist, researchers etc, or at least very capable specialists (pilots, inventors, ambassadors, spies) The vast majority of you companions and crew member will be that kind of people.
It would be possibile to justify the presence of a normal, ordinary party girl? Yes, why not, she could be the bartender, the masseuse, the chef, a girl you saved and has decided to stay etc. But it would not be so easy to give her a lot of space and put her in the "middle of the action" in a credible way
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Post by AnDromedary on Mar 25, 2019 17:56:56 GMT
Yes, why not, she could be the bartender, the masseuse, the chef, a girl you saved and has decided to stay etc. Now I feel like FemShep should have had Gardner as a romance option in ME2. IIRC, he was single at the time and as far as an intimate relationship goes, well, he washes his hands ... most of the time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2019 18:29:17 GMT
I never had an LI that wasn't a crewmate. I had cora,vetra,jaal,and pee bee. MEA didn't leave me much choice due to lack of interest in Jaal. Had to be Chief Engineer Gil Brodie or smuggler Reyes Vidal. I'm a space racist and only have human LIs. That's more choice than you had in ME1 though (where a gay MaleShep had no option without any mod) and more choice than even a FemShep who just wanted human company did in ME2 (since her choice human romance choice was limited to Jacob). Squad member romances seem to be more popular since their is dialogue that can take place during missions that supports the romance. That's missing with any romance outside the squad, causing it to feel more a "minor" romance than if a squadmate is the selected LI. I don't see how they can provide squad mate LIs for every taste without the numbers of squad mates getting too large for them to manage the programming and dialogue for all the missions using any possible combination of squaddies.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 25, 2019 23:40:14 GMT
I am tired of serious military and scientific types. How about a party girl? Okay, party girl. She shows up to fight but she's high on Hallex. Random dude with a gun thinks she's really annoying and shoots her in the head. Party girl is done. Honestly party girl on Hallex is pretty much the combat background a bunch of the squad through the various mass effects. If I can buy tali as a squad member why not party girl. It’s not shadowrun but pink Mohawk is a legit way to roll.
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Post by dmc1001 on Mar 26, 2019 0:02:50 GMT
Okay, party girl. She shows up to fight but she's high on Hallex. Random dude with a gun thinks she's really annoying and shoots her in the head. Party girl is done. Honestly party girl on Hallex is pretty much the combat background a bunch of the squad through the various mass effects. If I can buy tali as a squad member why not party girl. It’s not shadowrun but pink Mohawk is a legit way to roll. Tali can handle geth and a few mercs, all before Shepard showed up.
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Post by ahglock on Mar 26, 2019 0:12:08 GMT
Honestly party girl on Hallex is pretty much the combat background a bunch of the squad through the various mass effects. If I can buy tali as a squad member why not party girl. It’s not shadowrun but pink Mohawk is a legit way to roll. Tali can handle geth and a few mercs, all before Shepard showed up. And. Her background is kid on a pilgrimage. If the party girl pulled out a smg and took out security at a club in a cut scene as you meet her would she now be squad capable? A lot of characters have no background that would indicate any combat training or skill. They are competent just because. So why is a party girl any different than a archeologist, pilgrim, thief etc. Hmm I think all the males have a combat background.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Mar 26, 2019 0:42:14 GMT
As long as said party girl is competent and doesn't make me feel like i have to be their boss and constantly monitor what they do. Or else is just someone your not the leader of.
All the romances in these games have the complication that your technically in charge of your squad mates/romances. This is mitigated by the fact that your companions essentially act like independent coworkers, you choose the overall direction and give combat orders but otherwise they're good to be left to their own devices. They're competent and professional about the things they need to be so i don't feel like i have to be their boss even if I'm technically playing the leader.
Liam and peebee act so irresponsible, unprofessional, and incompetent, that i feel like i have to be their boss, which makes them unromancable for me.
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