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Post by Kymira on Nov 30, 2023 19:55:21 GMT
Hmmm, its banu haqim, guess ill be playing as banu if ventrue isnt in
guess they dont mind some overlap cuz we now have two magey archetypes cept one has obfuscate, and celerity for brujah and banu both...lol ok..i just want my dominate, fortitude and protean somewhere..
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 30, 2023 20:10:17 GMT
Hmmm, its banu haqim, guess ill be playing as banu if ventrue isnt in I still don´t like the Chinese Room vision of Bloodlines 2 but i have to give them credits for including the Banu Haqim as a playable clan which wasn´t playable in Bloodlines 1 and the Hardsuit Labs version of BL 2.
So confirmed from left to right 1. Brujah, 2. Ban Haqim, 3. Tremere
Not confirmed 4. Ventrue (but there is a small chance is could be a LaSombra but come on its Ventrue) 5. Toreador (but but there is a iny chance that is a Ravnos just kidding Toreador)
The question is Ventrue or Toreador who is the DLC clan? I personaly think that Ventrue is on the base game.
And of course Malkavians are the 6th aka the seperate DLC clan which is own thing.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Nov 30, 2023 22:59:27 GMT
Huh i really didn't think they'd do two blood magic clans
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Nov 30, 2023 23:30:09 GMT
Huh i really didn't think they'd do two blood magic clans Why not? What´s the difference between one more? Also to Brujah and Toreador sharing Celerity? Maybe in this game its more unique discipline like before aka Quietus?
Also Brujah = Warrior aka casual gamer clan Tremere = Mage Banu Haqim = Rogue
Which is missing?
The Bard class / clan
(perhaps for a theoretically argument Druid but we all know that Gangrel aren´t for 99,99% in the game as playable clan so a bard are more social clan makes the most sence.) So Ventrue or Toreador. I think Ventrue are more likely because they also could work as a Tank in combat.
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Post by Absafraginlootly on Nov 30, 2023 23:42:21 GMT
Huh i really didn't think they'd do two blood magic clans Why not? What´s the difference between one more? Also to Brujah and Toreador sharing Celerity? Maybe in this game its more unique discipline like before aka Quietus?
Also Brujah = Warrior aka casual gamer clan Tremere = Mage Banu Haqim = Rogue
Which is missing?
The Bard class / clan
(perhaps for a theoretically argument Druid but we all know that Gangrel aren´t for 99,99% in the game as playable clan so a bard are more social clan makes the most sence.) So Ventrue or Toreador. I think Ventrue are more likely because they also could work as a Tank in combat. I just didn't think they'd have two base clans that filled the mage role, though if they bring back quietus and/or give them different powers then they may not feel particurly magey.
I would tend to agree that Ventrue would fill out the archtypes nicely as the social clan, although there is that floating scene in the trailer which would suggest someone with protean - so maybe they're skipping giving us a majorly social clan and we're getting Gangrel? Or perhaps the floating power is a new one they've added to one of the blood magic clans instead?
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Post by azarhal on Nov 30, 2023 23:47:59 GMT
Huh i really didn't think they'd do two blood magic clans They might have made certain abilities limited per clans, since Banu Haqim are more rogue with magic while Tremere are pure mage. Also, going by the trailer, we get background references based on clan choice.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 1, 2023 0:21:15 GMT
although there is that floating scene in the trailer which would suggest someone with protean - so maybe they're skipping giving us a majorly social clan and we're getting Gangrel? Or perhaps the floating power is a new one they've added to one of the blood magic clans instead? Maybe its a Banu Haqim power who knows but i don´t think that concept art figure 4 or 5 is Gangrel. There was a chance that Nr. 2 could have been Gangrel but since today we all know its Banu Haqim. The floating was a former Thinblood power in the Hardsuit Labs build. In the latest build of HLs i think it was available for all clans to move through Seattle. Also i this would make sense because it doesn´t like a combat discipline in my opinion. Therefore maybe this floating is like Bloodbuff and Bloodheal in Bloodlines 1.
Edit: By the way not many people have believe in this but Dying Light 2 crossover event had teased us the first 3 clans aka Brujah, Tremere and Banu Haqim. Could still be a coincidence but maybe not. The new Chinese Room / Sumo Digital and Techland (for now only the big majority) are owned by Tencent.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 1, 2023 23:39:26 GMT
although there is that floating scene in the trailer which would suggest someone with protean - so maybe they're skipping giving us a majorly social clan and we're getting Gangrel? Or perhaps the floating power is a new one they've added to one of the blood magic clans instead? One interessing speculation from another forum. I personally don´t believe in this but hey maybe the floating could be like you said protean but this is not a Gangrel. Oh right Tzimisce (come on they will never be a playable clan) but Ministry? I can´t say that i think they are a possible option but with the name dropping of Cairo well the Minstry wouldn´t be that far fetched. Also "Some of the clans will be familiar to Bloodlines players, but some will surprise!" does some really mean just the Banu Haqim aka singular or atleast two aka plural? But saying all this i don´t think that concept figure 4 or 5 looks anything like Ministry.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 2, 2023 1:14:45 GMT
although there is that floating scene in the trailer which would suggest someone with protean - so maybe they're skipping giving us a majorly social clan and we're getting Gangrel? Or perhaps the floating power is a new one they've added to one of the blood magic clans instead? One interessing speculation from another forum. I personally don´t believe in this but hey maybe the floating could be like you said protean but this is not a Gangrel. Oh right Tzimisce (come on they will never be a playable clan) but Ministry? I can´t say that i think they are a possible option but with the name dropping of Cairo well the Minstry wouldn´t be that far fetched. Also "Some of the clans will be familiar to Bloodlines players, but some will surprise!" does some really mean just the Banu Haqim aka singular or atleast two aka plural? But saying all this i don´t think that concept figure 4 or 5 looks anything like Ministry. I've been suggesting Ministry since the first time they showed the conversation that mention Cairo. With the nickname Slayer maybe hinting at Banu Haqim instead. The DL2 DLCs were a much bigger hint about the clans.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 2, 2023 13:01:22 GMT
Someone made a video comparison between the Narrative RPG reveal and the Banu Haquim video repeated scene. Phyre emotes a lot more now.
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Post by shaqfu on Dec 2, 2023 20:08:36 GMT
Def looks a bit better, though still pretty stiff. Also, any idea on who the voice actress is? She sounds extremely familiar but just can't place it.
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Post by DragonKingReborn on Dec 2, 2023 22:56:12 GMT
One thing I forgot to mention with these videos - clearly we don’t have a Cyberpunk situation where the cinematics are first person perspective, as well. So that is something. Kingdom Come Deliverance had FPP lock for gameplay, but third person cutscenes and conversations, as well.
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Post by trinity0 on Dec 3, 2023 10:56:12 GMT
I still hope the last playable clan is Toreador. They share all there 3 Disciplines with one of the 3 clans we already know.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 3, 2023 13:10:18 GMT
I still hope the last playable clan is Toreador. They share all there 3 Disciplines with one of the 3 clans we already know. Which makes them very unlikely to be the last one I think. The dev are trying to make sure all options feels unique in some way, so one discipline is probably not shared. Brujah: Potence or Presence Tremere: Dominate or Aupex Banu Haquim: Obfuscate That leave Lasombra (Oblivion), Hecata (Fortitude/Oblivion), Ventrue (Fortitude, too boring to be the last revealed I think), Tzimisce (unlikely because of fleshcrafting) and Gangrel (unlikely for the same reasons the previous dev had them in their own story DLC).
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 3, 2023 16:29:05 GMT
I still hope the last playable clan is Toreador. They share all there 3 Disciplines with one of the 3 clans we already know. Well if Nr. 5 isn´t Toreador which other clan could he be?
But i don´t think that Toreador are in the base game.
It´s boring (but so are also Brujah ) perhaps but my obvious pick is Ventrue. "But but the hair looks more crazy he has to be a Malkavian" sorry still believing that Nr. 4 is Ventrue.
And the Marketing Phyre is the female version of the Nr. 4 with normal hair. Again looks like Ventrue. Edit: By the way i can´t understand they so "many" have hopes for Tzimisce of all clans. They will never be playable also what strange people want to play as someone like Andrei in Bloodlines 1? They are clearly the baddies and Vicissitude is their main discipline is pretty inhuman and even sadistic.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 3, 2023 17:03:21 GMT
Edit: By the way i can´t understand they so "many" have hopes for Tzimisce of all clans. They will never be playable also what strange people want to play as someone like Andrei in Bloodlines 1? They are clearly the baddies and Vicissitude is their main discipline is pretty inhuman and even sadistic. Because it's the anti-VTM clan and some people just want to be inhuman. BL2 will probably focus a lot on keeping/regaining humanity since Elder in torpor for 100+ years have like 2 humanity.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 3, 2023 17:15:09 GMT
Because it's the anti-VTM clan and some people just want to be inhuman. Yeah some people have a pretty crazy gore power fantasy. Like i said i never get the feeling that it would be cool to play as Andrei especially visiting in his Hollywood mansion.
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Post by talyn82 on Dec 5, 2023 3:43:41 GMT
Yeah some people have a pretty crazy gore power fantasy. Like i said i never get the feeling that it would be cool to play as Andrei especially visiting in his Hollywood mansion. I never understood their appeal either. But some fans really want to play as them. Fun fact: Did you know that Vlad Dracula is a Tzimisce in VTM lore?
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Post by azarhal on Dec 6, 2023 16:37:02 GMT
Me too. But I'm going to play one probably. They are the closest things to a paladin/bard. The combat gif shows dominating a mook to snap his own neck. Correction: evil paladin/bard. Interesting that the outfit for them wasn't on the concept art. Also, first time the description mention the clan 3 disciplines directly.
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Post by Kymira on Dec 6, 2023 18:16:06 GMT
WOO HOO YAAAAAAA VENTRUE BBY. Hmm interesting that feeding builds fortitude
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 6, 2023 21:14:26 GMT
The only surprise is Banu Haqim is playable instead of Toreador. But yeah Ventrue is fine.
So Toreador is DLC and Malkavian get the smaller? seperate DLC campaign.
Interesting that the outfit for them wasn't on the concept art. Also, first time the description mention the clan 3 disciplines directly. I also noticed that. But female and male outfits are complety different to each other.
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Post by azarhal on Dec 6, 2023 22:21:49 GMT
Interesting that the outfit for them wasn't on the concept art. Also, first time the description mention the clan 3 disciplines directly. I also noticed that. But female and male outfits are complety different to each other. In the in-game cutscenes they showed, female Phyre was wearing the male #4 outfit. That one is probably the starter outfit since tail-coat haven't been a thing in over a century fashion-wise. The big renderer you posted even seems to show dust or mold on it. And looking back at the Ventue outfit, Phyre isn't even wearing socks.
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Post by shaqfu on Dec 6, 2023 22:37:30 GMT
Was kinda hoping for Lasombra. Mainly because I think a playthrough where you can't work with modern technology could make an interesting approach.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on Dec 6, 2023 22:43:47 GMT
And looking back at the Ventue outfit, Phyre isn't even wearing socks. By the way i can´t really blame people for thinking that Ventrue Phyre looks more Lasombra than Ventrue. So what´s your guess but the two remaining DLC clans? Toreador and Malkavian or something completly different? Last but not least: "Some of the clans will be familiar to Bloodlines players, but some will surprise!" It´s just the Banu Haqim which are a welcoming surprise but i thought they meant with this more one clan aka BH. Atleast two non BL1 clans.
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