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Post by vertigomez on May 6, 2020 12:14:01 GMT
Dorian, Sten/Arishok, Calpernia, Maevaris, maybe Fenris as a cameo (either Blue Wraith-ing it up or.... with Danarius). I expect Harding, maybe Charter to show up but I'm not really invested in that. Solas is a gimme but honestly I'm way more interested in the Tevinter/Qunari stuff.
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Post by andydandymandy on May 9, 2020 2:05:14 GMT
I would prefer the only returning character's make sense for the story/setting so no The Inquisitor/Warden/Hawke in any fashion not even a cameo.Granted I've been awol from the series for a long while and haven't kept up with the Series after Inquistion so I can't really speak about the Novels/Comics. Here is my list of returns for DA4 I want. Solas Flemeth Divine Cassandra/Vivienne/Leliana Tevinter Dorian Pavus Fenris Bodahn Sandal Qunari Stenishok Iron Bull Tallis Didn't the Inquisitor stab a knife into the Tevinter map and say they were going to either stop Solas by any means necessary or "redeem him"? Seems to me that if Solas is going to be the main villain of DA4, the Inquisitor showing up is only logical.
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Post by thebobzilla84 on May 9, 2020 6:30:11 GMT
I would prefer the only returning character's make sense for the story/setting so no The Inquisitor/Warden/Hawke in any fashion not even a cameo.Granted I've been awol from the series for a long while and haven't kept up with the Series after Inquistion so I can't really speak about the Novels/Comics. Here is my list of returns for DA4 I want. Solas Flemeth Divine Cassandra/Vivienne/Leliana Tevinter Dorian Pavus Fenris Bodahn Sandal Qunari Stenishok Iron Bull Tallis Didn't the Inquisitor stab a knife into the Tevinter map and say they were going to either stop Solas by any means necessary or "redeem him"? Seems to me that if Solas is going to be the main villain of DA4, the Inquisitor showing up is only logical. Its very likely but I dont see the point tbh we are gonna be a new MC most likely and unless that MC is a high lvl member of the Inquistion working directly for the Inquisitor than whats the point in bringing back the Inquisitor at all.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 9, 2020 12:24:55 GMT
My personal stance regarding the possible return of the Inqusitor changed over time. First is was a definite "Nah. Down one arm and Bioware switches protagonists". Now it is more of an extreme either-or situation. I would either want to have the Inquisitor back in a capacity that gives me full control over their decisions and opinions, even if they never enter combat again and there is still a different main protagonist or not having the Inquisitor involved at all. I fret that anything in between could be messed up, especially since DAI is far more about personal opinion (like belief-related stuff) than the two previous games, and I do not like Hawke's part in DAI too much, especially the railroaded condemnation of Blood Magic on every turn.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on May 9, 2020 12:36:39 GMT
Down one arm and Bioware switches protagonists". Now it is more of an extreme either-or situation. I would either want to have the Inquisitor back in a capacity that gives me full control over their decisions and opinions, even if they never enter combat again No problem for the mage Inquisitors.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 9, 2020 13:11:52 GMT
Down one arm and Bioware switches protagonists". Now it is more of an extreme either-or situation. I would either want to have the Inquisitor back in a capacity that gives me full control over their decisions and opinions, even if they never enter combat again No problem for the mage Inquisitors. Or any Inquisitor now, since Tevinter Nights established the existence of prosthetics that allow people to adventure and fight without being hindered.
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Post by Giant Ambush Beetle on May 9, 2020 13:19:49 GMT
No problem for the mage Inquisitors. Or any Inquisitor now, since Tevinter Nights established the existence of prosthetics that allow people to adventure and fight without being hindered. Lyrium infused steampunk dwarven prosthetic! Sidequest: stop the prosthetic from strangling the Inqusitior during sleep.
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Post by gervaise21 on May 9, 2020 14:57:15 GMT
I always thought the lack of an arm was not a problem when it came to bringing back the Inquisitor. Even the Trespasser epilogue shows them with a cross-bow replacement if they elect to join the Red Jennies. Substitute any weapon or a shield for the crossbow and it is fixed. Even mages have been confirmed as able to do magic without a staff in Tevinter Nights. Then it seems that it is possible to have an actual working arm, which I also thought wasn't lore breaking, since if a hero of Irish legends can have a magical replacement arm, why can't Thedas? However, having to adapt to their new situation would explain a drop back in experience level.
Nevertheless, there was that presentation they gave where they stated the intention of Trespasser was to finish the Inquisitors' story. I still live in hope they were simply referring to their role in the south as leader of that organisation, not as a character but I'm not holding my breath on it. I also agree that I'd rather have no Inquisitor at all than brought back in a cameo role with little or no control over their character presentation or dialogue. Being railroaded into a response based on our decision at the end of Trespasser wouldn't be good at all since the Inquisitor could have any number of motivations for their reaction to Solas' disclosure.
As for returning characters, I'm now of a mind that I want as few of these as possible, as they invariably end up a disappointment. Also having to adapt their dialogue to suit their relationship with the Inquisitor wastes valuable resources that I'd rather see used on developing totally new people we can interact with. That said I think the following are likely to show up:
Dorian - because he was set up to be our linking character and has appeared in enough stories post Inquisition to suggest he will be our Tevinter contact with the shadow Inquisition.
Maevaris - because she has a considerable fan following but I think will more likely be a cameo or contact than a companion but I could be wrong about that.
Charter - because she keeps cropping up as an Inquisition contact and was said to be one of Leliana's successors - role probably spymaster.
Harding - possibly because she was also being trained up to be a successor by Leliana so once again may be our contact out in the field. It is just marginally possible that she may be a companion.
Calpernia - because her possible death was ambiguous and in every other scenario she survives - may be part of a side-quest either as a continued Venatori or opposing the Qunari.
Cassandra - again possibly as part of a side-quest to the Hunterhorn Mountains, since she ends up there in most scenarios whether Divine or not. Even if the Inquisitor didn't suggest reforming the Seekers she could still have done so.
Sten if he is still the Arishok but that is how he will be known now and without our PC from DAO he will have no real connection with our new PC other than to be in opposition.
Cole - possible cameo offering assistance whether as spirit from the Fade (hinted at) or human version (because he has become a travelling entertainer).
Sandal - Well they've managed to include him in every game or its DLC so far.
Valta (from the Descent) - definitely expect her to show up at some point - may have vital information or assistance of some sort against Solas
That is about the sum total of former characters or companions I expect to see. To be honest, it is such a long time since DAI that everyone is going to seem like a new character anyway, which should help because if they don't bring back the Inquisitor then my new PC will not know them so it will make no real difference to them who they are from previous games.
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Post by duskwanderer on May 10, 2020 19:17:13 GMT
I want as few as possible, honestly. There's been a lot of time and we're in an area that's supposedly foreign to the rest of Thedas. Rather than a returning character, I would prefer a returning concept. Such as a soldier from the Inquisition, or a new Orlesian bard.
However, I'll make an exception for characters who had very small roles. Charade is probably a great example. She can serve both as a better liaison to the Friends of Red Jenny than Sera, and allow us to reference Hawke and, potentially, Bethany or Carver. Aside: There could be potentially three replays available based on Circle!Bethany, Templar!Carver, and Warden!Either. A sidequest in which she calls for assistance, potentially involving red lyrium since that matters to mages, templars, and Wardens.
I would like some of the Tevinter people to serve in advisory roles. Dorian would make a poor companion since he's optional in Inquisition, and Maevaris, based on the backstory, seems better suited for this. Since there's connections to the dwarves in the backstory, perhaps Mae's role could steer our group into obtaining lyrium supplies to handle this qunari invasion, and the subsequent quest could give us insight into Tevinter politics, shaping Mae's role.
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Post by turianlannister on May 10, 2020 23:38:47 GMT
As long as our Lord and savior Sandal returns all will be good.lol Sandal - Well they've managed to include him in every game or its DLC so far.
Sandal didn't appear in Inquisition I'm not sure if he'll show up again. The reason he wasn't in Inquisition is because Yuri Lowenthal called Sandal a retard at a convention that David Gaider was also attending, Gaider put his foot down and refused to have Lowenthal back
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 11, 2020 0:33:56 GMT
As long as our Lord and savior Sandal returns all will be good.lol Sandal - Well they've managed to include him in every game or its DLC so far.
Sandal didn't appear in Inquisition I'm not sure if he'll show up again. The reason he wasn't in Inquisition is because Yuri Lowenthal called Sandal a retard at a convention that David Gaider was also attending, Gaider put his foot down and refused to have Lowenthal back I didn't know that. Poor Sandal.
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Post by NotN7 on May 11, 2020 1:37:05 GMT
I would like to see the Avvar chief (I believe) Movran the under? after all why did I exile him and his clan with all the weapons they could carry to Tevinter?
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 1:50:20 GMT
Sandal didn't appear in Inquisition I'm not sure if he'll show up again. The reason he wasn't in Inquisition is because Yuri Lowenthal called Sandal a retard at a convention that David Gaider was also attending, Gaider put his foot down and refused to have Lowenthal back They could always get another actor. It's not like he would be difficult to duplicate...
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Post by andydandymandy on May 11, 2020 3:20:16 GMT
So they didn't bring Sandal back because the actor who played him in the early games said something offensive and stupid? Even though they could have just recast him?
Did David Gaider himself say this is why Sandal wasn't in Inquisition? Anyone else on the team say this was the case? What are the sources of this rumor?
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Post by Sartoz on May 11, 2020 11:09:54 GMT
My personal stance regarding the possible return of the Inqusitor changed over time. First is was a definite "Nah. Down one arm and Bioware switches protagonists". Now it is more of an extreme either-or situation. I would either want to have the Inquisitor back in a capacity that gives me full control over their decisions and opinions, even if they never enter combat again and there is still a different main protagonist or not having the Inquisitor involved at all. I fret that anything in between could be messed up, especially since DAI is far more about personal opinion (like belief-related stuff) than the two previous games, and I do not like Hawke's part in DAI too much, especially the railroaded condemnation of Blood Magic on every turn.
One problem with the Inqui coming back. ...at what level/skills/experience? That also implies same mage skills... etc. I can't see Bio keeping the same combat mechanisms, skill sets, attributes.... etc. And, bringing the Inqui back starting at level 1 makes no sense to me.
If Bio continues the fight from that stab at the map, someone else needs to take up the sword. It gives the writers freedom to set the stage with new characters in DA:I. After all, the Warden was a one game show. All the major writing efforts went into the new characters.
So, chances are there will be new major chars with cameo appearances to keep the illusion of continuity.
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Post by Buckeldemon on May 11, 2020 12:51:11 GMT
My personal stance regarding the possible return of the Inqusitor changed over time. First is was a definite "Nah. Down one arm and Bioware switches protagonists". Now it is more of an extreme either-or situation. I would either want to have the Inquisitor back in a capacity that gives me full control over their decisions and opinions, even if they never enter combat again and there is still a different main protagonist or not having the Inquisitor involved at all. I fret that anything in between could be messed up, especially since DAI is far more about personal opinion (like belief-related stuff) than the two previous games, and I do not like Hawke's part in DAI too much, especially the railroaded condemnation of Blood Magic on every turn.
One problem with the Inqui coming back. ...at what level/skills/experience? That also implies same mage skills... etc. I can't see Bio keeping the same combat mechanisms, skill sets, attributes.... etc. And, bringing the Inqui back starting at level 1 makes no sense to me.
If Bio continues the fight from that stab at the map, someone else needs to take up the sword. It gives the writers freedom to set the stage with new characters in DA:I. After all, the Warden was a one game show. All the major writing efforts went into the new characters.
So, chances are there will be new major chars with cameo appearances to keep the illusion of continuity.
Some players would say a level reset could be justified by having to adjust to a possbile arm prosthetics. Harder to justify on mages, of course, but that might be blamed on the Mark, besides flat-out ignoring mage-ness, as already done sometimes. Some people do complain that DA2 does not do a mage Hawke "proper justice" afterall, i.e. not constantly having to avoid any templar attention. Though I guess one could do worse than "reset by crippling injury" - see the intro and premise of the much-hyped ME2.
To be honest, I'm not really interested in seeing the Inquisitor in combat again. I just want to control/roleplay their opionions and possible dialogue/involvement, else it could easily turn into a disjointed mess of a character. If my SoLavellan Inquisitor was to play an important part in DA4 and be railroaded to be, say, suddenly positive towards Andrastianism and the Chantry, the game would be dead for me.
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Post by Cyberstrike on May 11, 2020 13:45:49 GMT
Other than Solas and maybe Flemeth NONE.
I don't want the game crowded by characters from previous games and having to contrive stupid reasons why they're there when they should be taking care of other jobs and responsibilities. Unless we go to deep roads I also don't want to see a darkspawn and a Grey Warden.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on May 11, 2020 15:49:20 GMT
Sandal didn't appear in Inquisition Oh really?!? He is mentioned severall times in DAI. I still believe he is the dwarf in envy demon nightmare.
And lets not forget this.
Sorry i don´t believe you. I heard this story the first time from you. Also Yuri Lowenthal had voiced 1-2 in Andromeda.
I believe the "real reason" why they didn´t used Sandal and also Tallis in DAI was not that Bioware won´t use them never again but clearly don´t want to overexposure them.
Three games in a row as the rune craftsmen come on that is a bit to much so yeah i welcome that we have Dagna instead of him in DAI.
Or Bioware had planned that Sandal and Bodahn would had appeared in the Winter Palace but scrapped it because time, money or story reasons.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 16:11:47 GMT
Also Yuri Lowenthal had voiced 1-2 in Andromeda. And David Gaider had what to do with MEA...? Not saying I believe the clam without a quote or something, but your reasoning here is flawed.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on May 11, 2020 16:19:50 GMT
Also Yuri Lowenthal had voiced 1-2 in Andromeda. And David Gaider had what to do with MEA...? Not saying I believe the clam without a quote or something, but your reasoning here is flawed. The DA (writing) team had worked for some time on MEA as support.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on May 11, 2020 16:21:42 GMT
And David Gaider had what to do with MEA...? Not saying I believe the clam without a quote or something, but your reasoning here is flawed. The DA (writing) team had worked for some time on MEA as support. David Gaider was no longer with Bioware by that time. He left between DAI and Trespasser.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 16:26:26 GMT
The DA (writing) team had worked for some time on MEA as support. What Hanako said. Also, you didn't refute my point. If the idea is that David Gaider objected, he still had nothing to do with MEA, even if individual writers went over to MEA.
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Post by cuthbertbeckett on May 11, 2020 16:42:55 GMT
The DA (writing) team had worked for some time on MEA as support. David Gaider was no longer with Bioware by that time. He left between DAI and Trespasser. Okay i thought that he worked after DAI for a very short period of time on MEA and then on Anthem.
What Hanako said. Also, you didn't refute my point. If the idea is that David Gaider objected, he still had nothing to do with MEA, even if individual writers went over to MEA. Okay maybe he hasn´t nothing to with MEA. But don´t you think he was in contact with MEA team atleast the writers? So if he really have a grudge against Lowenthal for this reason i really doubt that Lowenthal would get the MEA job.
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Post by Nightscrawl on May 11, 2020 17:17:16 GMT
Okay maybe he hasn´t nothing to with MEA. But don´t you think he was in contact with MEA team atleast the writers? So if he really have a grudge against Lowenthal for this reason i really doubt that Lowenthal would get the MEA job. Still stretching. But it's a moot point. We don't have a quote or anything to back up the claim.
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